Man har ingenting å tape på å være religiøs.

[B25S]

Religion er hjernevask og pølsevev.

Religiøsitet er galskap.

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Endret 10. februar 2012 av ....

[Red Frostraven]

Sansynligheten for en gud = ukjent / ubeviselig

 

Sansynligheten for en gud som lyger = sansynligheten for en gud som ikke lyger

 

Dermed er pascal's wager totalt verdiløst -- for uten beviser for hva som eventuelt skjer med oss etter døden, så er det like sansynlig at en eventuell gud torturerer de som tror på ham.

 

Ikke det?

Kan du vite hva gudene tenker?

Kan du vite om gudene er gode eller onde -- når du ikke kan vite om gudene lyger eller snakker sant?

 

Se på verden.

Mest godt eller ondt?

Mest liv eller mest død?

Mest belønning eller mest slit?

[Locrin]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither willing, nor able? Then why call him God?

 

If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.

 

 

Tidligere var man overbevist over at lynnedslag, orkaner etc etc var guds vrede... Nå vet de fleste bedre, men ikke alle. Det at noen holder fast på gammel overtro er noe jeg ikke klarer å respektere. Religiøse verden over. Dere gjør meg kvalm.

 

 

Religion is fundamentally flawed in a staggering variety of ways, to the point that a curious child can bring down the entire framework of baloney with an innocent question.

 

Such questions include

 

*Why is there evil?

 

*Who made god?

 

*Why should I trust you after that Santa Claus thing?

 

But you didn't ASK those questions, did you? Or if you did, you accepted the pathetic rationalizations that were offered without further contemplation.

 

Perhaps you were afraid to ask, or even to think about it. Your comforting little worldview mattered more to you then the truth.

 

But can this critical failure really be blamed on a fear of the consequences of religion being wrong?

Is a godless world too terrible to contemplate?

 

The idea that Santa Claus isn't real is also unpleasant, and this provides a deterrent to disbelief.

But not a significant one.

 

God doesn’t even bring people presents. In fact, in most religions he's kind of a jerk. Plagues and laws and smiting and eternal torture. Is this really so attractive an idea that people cannot let it go?

 

Perhaps disinterest is the only real problem. After all, if a man can't read Greek, that doesn't make him stupid. It simply means he doesn't care to read Greek.

 

But can a lack of interest in the FUNDAMENTAL NATURE OF REALITY really be justified in this way? Maybe so. After all, it makes little difference in day - to - day living whether god is up there or not.

 

AND YET, SHOULDN'T THE FACT THAT GOD'S EXISTENCE HAS NO MAJOR CONSEQUENCES ITSELF RAISE A RED FLAG?

 

The idea that a being with immense powers exists, but never tampers with the world in a noticeable way, is an absurdly childish hypothetical scenario. It's "I'm not touching you" on a cosmic scale.

 

Granted, we used to see a lot more evidence of God's tampering than we do today. Things like lightning, disease, floods, butterflies and the sun.

But even then, a bunch of inexplicable things hardly adds up to a big magical man who you can't see.

 

And of course, all this "evidence" wilted and died with sufficient rational inquiry. The sun and stars turned out to be big nuclear furnaces, diseases and butterflies are now well understood, and lightning is just an electrical discharge.

 

Indeed, from leopard spots to pregnancy to the shape of the earth, religion has been proved wrong, wrong wrong. It would take an IDIOT not to see a pattern in this.

And that's exactly what you are.

 

The icing on this pathetic cake is that you realize all the OTHER religions are wrong; you just have a blind spot toward your own.

 

Perhaps you have a vague awareness that religion is retarded, but you never really give it up because your thoughts are too disorganized to deal with it.

 

If this is the case, and your mind is a dusty closet of odds and ends, motivational phrases and vacation photos, I have nothing but contempt for you.

 

I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and I refuse to respect people who hold them.

 

Your wilful ignorance is inexcusable and it disgusts me.

 

 

 

tl:dr The bible says it, I believes it, that settles it. >__<

Endret 23. august 2008 av -Zeitgeist-