Jokko88 Skrevet 10. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 10. juni 2008 (endret) Nå vet jeg ikke helt hva som foregår eller hvordan det foregår, men: Impeachement Happening in Congress right now! Bush er tydeligvis blitt tiltalt for disse 35 punktene: Article I Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq. Article II Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Int ent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression. Article III Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War. Article IV Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States. Article V Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression. Article VI Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114. Article VII Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War. Article VIII Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter. Article IX Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor Article X Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes Article XI Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq Article XII Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources Article XIIII Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries Article XIV Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency Article XV Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq Article XVI Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors Article XVII Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives Article XVIII Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy Article XIX Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to "Black Si tes" Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture Article XX Imprisoning Children Article XXI Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government Article XXII Creating Secret Laws Article XXIII Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act Article XXIV Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment Article XXV Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens Article XXVI Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements Article XXVII Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to ComplyArticle XXVIII Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice Article XXIX Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965 Article XXX Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare Article XXXI Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency Article XXXII Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change Article XXXIII Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911. Article XXXIV Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001 Article XXXV Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders Endret 11. juni 2008 av Jokko88 Lenke til kommentar
Rampage Skrevet 10. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 10. juni 2008 (endret) Oh snap. Kuchinich ja. En av de kandidatene som fikk lite dekning. Prøvd det mot Cheney allerede og det ser ytterst tvilsomt ut. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/09/...e=mostpop_story Kucinich has introduced a similar impeachment resolution against Vice President Cheney. That resolution was referred to the House Judiciary Committee, which has taken no action on the measure. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and other top House Democratic leaders have stated that there will be no consideration of impeachment proceedings against Bush, calling the idea "off the table." Endret 10. juni 2008 av Rampage Lenke til kommentar
dymoletratag Skrevet 10. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 10. juni 2008 Foregår dette i skrivende stund? Lenke til kommentar
tom waits for alice Skrevet 10. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 10. juni 2008 (endret) Nja, det er ikke noe som "foregår". Det som har skjedd er at en representant har stilt forslag om riksrett mot Bush. Dette er strengt tatt ikke en tiltale, men en anklage. For at det skal bli en tiltale, altså at det reises riksrettsak, må over halvparten av medlemmene av Representantenes Hus stemme for. Deretter føres saken for Senatet, der det må 2/3 flertall til for å dømme. Men i dette tilfellet er det altså ikke kommer så langt. Det er bare en enkelt representant som har foreslått riksrett, og han har ikke støtte i sitt eget parti for dette. Dermed blir det ikke flertall for å reise sak, og ikke noen riksrett. Det ville da også vært svært uvanlig om det skulle blitt en sak. De siste 140 årene har det bare skjedd en gang, og det var mot Clinton for falsk forklaring, men han ble ikke dømt. Nixon kunne blitt tiltalt, men han gikk av før man rakk å stemme over forslaget om å reise sak. Geir Endret 10. juni 2008 av tom waits for alice Lenke til kommentar
Pivotal Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Synd at det ikke blir noen sak egentlig. Det hadde vært interessant. Lenke til kommentar
Ballemannen Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Jeg har heller ikke noen stor tro på at det blir noe av dette i det überkorrupte kjeltringmiljøet der borte, særlig etter at Nancy Pelosi sa det hun sa i november eller desember. Men alle punktene er grundig gjort rede for i DETTE dokumentet. De meget spesielt interesserte kan se 4t 38min der Dennis Kucinich legger frem disse punktene HER. Det jeg mener er interessant er de 3-4 punktene som har med 911 å gjøre, dette temaet som man bare ikke snakker om, særlig ikke i annet enn sarkastiske og nedlatende vendinger. Article 2: Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression http://www.georgewashington.blogspot.com/2...mpeachment.html Klikk for å se/fjerne innholdet nedenfor GOP Memo Talks About Exploiting 9/11 Even Further To Re-sell The Iraq War Cheney Again Links Iraq Invasion To 9/11 Attacks Bush: Pulling Out Of Iraq Would Cause Another 9/11 Ex-Bush Aides Conflate 9/11, Iraq In Pro-War Ad Campaign Bush Ties Al-Qaeda In Iraq To 9/11 Bush Again Links Iraq Violence To 9/11 Richard Perle Says He Never Said Iraq Had Anything To Do With 9/11 - Video Inside Tenet Says Cheney Had Eye On Iraq Long Before 9/11 Cheney Links 9/11 To Iraq Yet Again In Front Of The Heritage Foundation Watch Bush Tie 9/11 To Iraq Again - Video Inside Cheney Links 9/11 With Iraq Again Bush Invokes 9/11 To Justify Staying In Iraq 9/11, Iraq: Cheney Again Claims Tie Team Hillary's Latest Excuse For Iraq Vote: 9/11 Made Her Do It! Condoleezza Rice Continues To Make The Iraq - 9/11 Connection - Video Inside Rumsfeld Exploits 9/11 To Defend Failed Iraq Policy, And O'Reilly Gives Him A Pass Cheney Link Of Iraq, 9/11 Challenged 85% Of Troops In Iraq Think Saddam Was Involved In 9/11, 77% Think Supported Al-Qaeda Linking Iraq With 9/11 Bush Admits Iraq Had No WMD, And Denies Tying 9/11 To Iraq - Video Inside Article 33: Repeatedly ignored and failed to respond to high level intelligence warnings of planned terrorist attacks in U.S. prior to 9/11 Les Les les, les, les. Article 34: Obstruction into the investigation of 9/11 http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/...of-justice.html http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/...1-cover-up.html Article 35: Endangering the health of 9/11 first responders Les Masse linker her Lenke til kommentar
IntelAmdAti Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 11. juni 2008 (endret) Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced 35 articles of impeachment against George W. Bush for high crimes ranging from creating a false propaganda campaign to lead the country into an illegal war to felony treason in leaking classified information of CIA operative Valerie Plame to obstructing justice of the investigation of the attacks of September 11th. One might think that this would be on the front page of every newspaper and website as well as the lead story on all the major networks. THE STORY IS NOT BEING COVERED even though tonight the articles for impeachment received a co-sponsor. Rep. Robert Wexler of Florida has cosigned the article with Dennis Kucinich Vi i vesten sensurerer slik kritikk vel så mye som noen andre, kanskje er det fordi vi har flere hemmeligheter å skjule? Endret 11. juni 2008 av Pycnopodia Lenke til kommentar
Jokko88 Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Forfatter Del Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Har heller ikke sett denne saken i noen norske medier. Lenke til kommentar
tom waits for alice Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Det er jo strengt tatt ikke noen "sak" her. Ingen av punktene er nye, de har vært diskutert i media og på nettet i årevis. Hadde det faktisk vært en sjans i havet for at det ble riksrett, hadde det nok havnet i avisene. Men hittil er det kanskje bare 2-3 av 435 representanter som synes dette er en god idé. Geir Lenke til kommentar
Rampage Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Jeg har jo tross alt allerede gitt link til CBS. Det blir dekket, men dette er en liten sak. Det er ikke noe stor nyhet. Lenke til kommentar
Ballemannen Skrevet 11. juni 2008 Del Skrevet 11. juni 2008 (endret) Jeg bare slenger ut noen sitater som jeg synes er passende The major media are large corporations, owned by and interlinked with even larger conglomerates. Like other corporations, they sell a product to a market. The market is advertisers - that is, other businesses. The product is audiences, [and] for the elite media, [they're] relatively privileged audiences. So we have major corporations selling fairly wealthy and privileged audiences to other businesses. Not surprisingly, the picture of the world presented reflects the narrow and biased interests and values of the sellers, the buyers and the product. og The media serve the interests of state and corporate power, which are closely interlinked, framing their reporting and analysis in a manner supportive of established privilege and limiting debate and discussion accordingly. I think democracy fails under a variety of conditions and one of the conditions occurs when people don't have the ability to get the kind of information they need to make up their mind. Ideologically, I don't care much for FOX News. But the truth is that, as long as there are countervailing points of view available on the spectrum, it doesn't matter. The Gulf War ... was made popular by an immense propaganda barrage unleashed by the Pentagon, the media, and government, creating an ideological milieu in which 45 percent of the population said it would be prepared to use nuclear weapons against Iraq. Military actions were, transformed into a grotesque national spectacle, a great celebration of war-making. They just don't come in contact with people not in their [income] bracket. They've lost touch with their community. The press ... traditionally sides with authority and the establishment. One of the intentions of corporate-controlled media is to instill in people a sense of disempowerment, of immobilization and paralysis. Its outcome is to turn you into good consumers. It is to keep people isolated, to feel that there is no possibility for social change. The cost of being presented as a " responsible and serious candidate" by the media [is] usually to show fundamental agreement with the existing distribution of wealth and power. In the United States, both the Republican and Democratic Parties, with only a few prominent exceptions, have been and are in the pay of the corporate media and communication giants. Endret 11. juni 2008 av Ballemannen Lenke til kommentar
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