Røde republikanere og blå demokrater - burde det ikke vært omvendt?

[Boomerang]

Rødt er jo venstresidens farge og blått er høyresidens farge i politikken. Jeg finner detet særdeles snodig.

 

Jaja, helt greit for meg. Blå er favorittfargen min!

Endret 7. februar 2008 av Boomerang

[Ballemannen]

demokrater er blå, republikanere er enda blåere.

Det finnes ikke rødt i amerikansk politikk.

[Boomerang]

demokrater er blå, republikanere er enda blåere.

Det finnes ikke rødt i amerikansk politikk.

 

Jo. Republikanernes farge er rød. Demokratenes farge er blå.

[Ballemannen]

joda, sant nok. Men de tenker vel ikke at rødfargen deres gjenspeiler deres sosialistiske profil

[Sonja84]

personlig tenkte jeg slik:

blå: blue collar: arbeiderklassen

[Thlom]

personlig tenkte jeg slik:

blå: blue collar: arbeiderklassen

Blue collar er i tilfelle industriarbeiderklassen, altså den delen av arbeiderklassen som jobber i typiske mannsdominerte yrker innen industrien, byggebransjen etc.

 

EDIT: Wikipedia har dette å si om fargene til partiene:

After the 2000 election, the color red became associated with the GOP although it has not been officially adopted by the party. On election night 2000, for the first time ever, all major broadcast networks utilized the same color scheme for the electoral map: red states for George W. Bush (Republican nominee) and blue states for Al Gore (Democratic nominee). Although the color red is unofficial and informal, it is widely recognized by the media and the public to represent the GOP. Partisan supporters now often use the color red for promotional materials and campaign merchandise, even though red is traditionally associated with socialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Pa...ame_and_symbols

Endret 7. februar 2008 av olsen

[Eldritch]

demokrater er blå, republikanere er enda blåere.

Det finnes ikke rødt i amerikansk politikk.

 

Tro det eller ei, men det finnes faktisk et Amerikansk kommunistparti. Men dette er selvfølgelig et minoritetsparti sammenlignet med GOP og Demokratene.

 

http://www.cpusa.org/

[Ballemannen]

Ja, det finnes flere små partier som ikke har sjans i havet i forhold til de to store, slik samfunnet ser ut i dag.

 

Problemet der borte er at de to partiene er så jævlig like at det ikke har noen praktisk betydning. Samme med pengefolka som står i ryggen.

 

Gore Vidal, historiker og rikssynser, har sagt "We only have one political party in the U.S., and that is the property party, which essentially is corporate America, which has two right wings, one called Republican and one called Democrat. I can't say I like either of them."

 

Peter Dale Scott, tidligere kanadisk diplomat, poet, forfatter, forsker og professor ved Berkeley, mener at ekte forandring i USA ikke kan komme ovenifra og ned. Virkelig forandring må starte fra bunnen, gjennom grasrot-aktivister og media aktivister som i dag har sitt hjem på internett. "We need a movement, like that of Solidarity in Poland, that unites the various elements in civil society instead of setting them against each other. I suspect that left and right, by discarding preconceptions and learning more about those whom they presume to be adversaries, could discover that they may have more in common than they believe."

 

Fra Amy Goodmans DemocracyNow! der hun snakker med tidligere Rep. Cynthia McKinney om apatiske velgere som ikke klarer å se gjennom det falske paradigmet som 2-parti systemet presenterer:

 

AMY GOODMAN: How did you go from Democratic Party to Green Party?

 

CYNTHIA McKINNEY: It’s a very good question, and of course, you know, I have now been to twenty-two states across our country, and I ask people who come to my events to hear me, what exactly was your tipping point? And so, I’ve learned that there ... is a community of people who have found that life is possible outside of the two-party paradigm. They have searched for resolution of issues that are of grave concern to them, and they have not found it within the two-party-system. But that has sometimes meant that they would withdraw from ... the electoral process altogether.

 

And so, we have a whole huge swath of the potential electorate who don’t even vote at all. And starting in 1968, many of them have said that the treatment (by) the Democratic Party of people, their children basically, who were outside of the Democratic National Convention and who wanted only to express their opposition to the Vietnam War, that was a tipping point for them. Others have ... said that 9/11 truth is a tipping point for them. The failure of the Democratic Party to support impeachment, which is really the ultimate form of accountability in our system, is a tipping point for them. And then, of course, we have this huge population of the African American community that has decided to withdraw itself completely from the electoral process. And Hurricane Katrina was like the last straw.

 

And so, what we now want to do is to bring those people back in and to demonstrate to them that it is possible for us once again to have this community of conscience of people who are willing to participate in the process and to make that participation based on shared values. And our values are, first and foremost, peace. The values that we have to express are ending the disparities, the glaring disparities based on race and class that exist in our country.

 

 

Scoop's spaltist Michael Collins undersøker temaet om det såkalte 2-parti systemet, som han slår innunder ett som "Pengepartiet".

 

The Money Party is a small group of enterprises and individuals who have most of the money in this country. They use that money to make more money. Controlling who gets elected to public office is the key to more money for them and less for us. As 2008 approaches, The Money Party is working hard to maintain its perfect record.

 

It is not about Republicans versus Democrats. Right now, the Republicans do a better job taking money than the Democrats. But The Money Party is an equal opportunity employer. They have no permanent friends or enemies, just permanent interests. Democrats are as welcome as Republicans to this party. It’s all good when you’re on the take and the take is legal.

 

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[Asmodeus]

personlig tenkte jeg slik:

blå: blue collar: arbeiderklassen

 

Men i USA tror jeg det er (veldig generaliserende selvsagt) Arbeiderklassen som stemmer Republikansk og akademikerne som stemmer Demokratisk. (I hvert fall nå for tiden. Bush fnyser jo stadig vekk av de intellektuelle som han har svært liten sans for)