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[Adrax]

Man må være bra dum hvis man tror at hovedproblemet vårt er mangel på en spiss, for det er det ikke. Vi trenger et forsvar og midtbanespillere som kan noe annet enn å kun spille støttepasninger. Spissen og kantene skal fòres med passninger fra forsvaret og midtbanen, og da hjelper det ikke med Elneny eller Coquelin, for de har null overblikk slik som Ozil har.

[MartinF]

Vi hadde i mange, mange år det mest solide forsvaret i PL. Hvor mange titler kom det ut av det?

 

Hint: Ingen.

[Corporal Jenkinson]

Hovedproblemet vårt er at vi ikke scorer nok mål. Vi er solide bakover på banen, men vi mangler målscorere. Se bort i fra Giroud og tildels Sanchez er det syltynt med målscorere. Topscorern vår i ligaen scoret 14 mål, mens vår nummer to gollet 10. Så jo, hovedproblemet vårt er at vi ikke scorer nok mål, som igjen betyr at vi mangler spiss. 

 

Du har forsåvidt rett i at vi ikke mangler spiss, vi har jo tross alt fire-fem som kan spille spiss. Det er heller det at vi mangler en klassespiss. 

[blured]

Om man ser på spillere i PL fra de siste fem sesongene, så ser man at Giroud har gjort det jevnt ganske bra da. Problemet hans er bare at han aldri har en skikkelig bra sesong; av de over han på listen så er det kun Lukaku og Sánchez som ikke har hatt en sesong med 20 eller flere mål.

 

#     Spiller               Snitt     Sesonger
01    Harry Kane            23        2
02    Luis Suárez           21.7      3
03    Sergio Agüero         20.4      5
04    Robin van Persie      19.5      4
05    Diego Costa           16        2
06    Gareth Bale           15        2
07    Wayne Rooney          15        5
08    Romelu Lukaku         15        4
09    Alexis Sánchez        14.5      2
10    Jamie Vardy           14.5      2
11    Olivier Giroud        13.5      4
12    Christian Benteke     12.5      4
13    Edin Dzeko            12        4
14    Dimitar Berbatov      11        2
15    Daniel Sturridge      11        5
16    Riyad Mahrez          10.5      2
17    Wilfried Bony         10.3      3
18    Eden Hazard           10        4
19    Michu                 10        2
20    Demba Ba              9.8       4
21    Yaya Touré            9.6       5
22    Frank Lampard         9.5       4
23    Lukas Podolski        9.5       2
24    Steven Gerrard        9         4
25    Jermain Defoe         8.4       5

 

[Corporal Jenkinson]

13.5 er ikke bra for det soleklare førstevalget på et "så bra" lag som Arsenal. Det vinner deg i alle fall ikke ligaen. 

Endret 8. mai 2016 av Corporal Jenkinson

[blured]

Neida. Men den listen viser også hvor vanskelig det er å få tak i spillere som er noe særlig bedre. Dere var heldige med RvP, på samme måte som Tottenham var det med Bale og Kane, Liverpool med Suarez, Everton med Lukaku og Leicester med Vardy. De andre spiller/spilte for klubber med hakket større økonomiske muskler enn dere (Barcelona, RM, Chelsea, United, City).

[Corporal Jenkinson]

Spillere som spiller for dårligere lag (Benteke, Demba Ba, Boný, Defoe feks) er alle spillere (imo) som ville ha scoret like mange mål som Giroud eller flere for Arsenal. 

 

 

Lista sier ingenting om hvordan de ville ha gjort det i Arsenal. Er ikke mange klubber i verden der spissen får flere sjanser servert enn i Arsenal. At Giroud har bedre målutelling enn enkelte betyr ikke at han er bedre.

 

Det at det ikke finnes bedre spisser/spisser som ville ha scoret flere på markedet er bare tull. Kan nevne 5-10 spisser som ville ha scoret 15 ligamål for Arsenal som var tilgjengelig i sommer.

 

 

For øvrig ikke tolk dette som kritikk mot deg, forstår hva du mener, men synes selv det blir feil å bruke antall mål til å avgjøre hvem som er best. Spillestil, lagkamerater og hvilket lag man spiller for har mye å si for en spiss suksess. 

[Whiteshit]

Vi hadde i mange, mange år det mest solide forsvaret i PL. Hvor mange titler kom det ut av det?

 

Hint: Ingen.

No henge eg ikkje med. Når eg tenker på det mest solide forsvaret i PLs historie, så går eg tilbake til Adams, Winterburn, Keown, Dixon (sikkert glømt noken) og the unbeatables. Og dei vant no endel dei? 

[MartinF]

Nei, ikke så langt tilbake. Kos og Vermaelen (?) hadde meget solide defensive stats et par sesonger.

[#Kroenkeout]

Nei, ikke så langt tilbake. Kos og Vermaelen (?) hadde meget solide defensive stats et par sesonger.

Nei vi har faktisk vært jævlig ræv i forsvar. Vi vant den duellen sist gang i 03/04.

 

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/premier-league/2003-04/best-defence.html

 

 

[#Kroenkeout]

Who stays and who goes?

 

 

3. Kieran Gibbs. Reportedly made available by Wenger this summer, Gibbs’ career has not quite taken off after early promise. Now 26, the England international has found himself demoted to second choice by Nacho Monreal, so may be better off leaving to resurrect his career elsewhere. Sell

4. Per Mertesacker. Arsenal have missed their vice captain at times this season, though the German’s lack of pace is still an issue. Defensive reinforcements are required, but there should be no great need to sell Mertesacker just yet. Keep

 

5. Gabriel Paulista. Signed for £11m in January 2015, Gabriel has at times looked shaky, even after appearing to oust Mertesacker as Laurent Koscielny’s partner in defence. Will not be sold this summer but needs to seriously up his game after a number of high-profile errors. Keep

6. Laurent Koscielny. Arsenal’s best defender by some distance, the French international’s passing and awareness are why he is one of the first names on the team sheet. Unquestionably should remain at the Emirates. Keep

7. Tomáš Rosický. Contract expires in the summer, almost certain not to be renewed. Needs to be moved on to free up space for new arrivals. Release

8. Mikel Arteta. Exact same situation as Rosický. Release.

10. Jack Wilshere. As important a player as he may yet turn out to be, Wilshere’s injury problems and off-field behaviour should be seen as two major red flags. At the age of 24, he should know better – but his natural talent should (and will) buy him one more year to prove himself. Keep

11. Mesut Özil. The playmaker and heartbeat of the team. Not only should Özil be kept, the team should continue to be built around him. Keep

12. Olivier Giroud. He may have scored at the weekend, but that was his first goal since March, and his first in the league since January. A competent 7/10 striker but nothing more – good enough for 3rd/4th. Must be upgraded. Sell

13. David Ospina. The Olympiakos gaffe aside, Ospina has been dependable since arriving in summer 2014. May not like the idea of being a number two, but should only be allowed to leave if he requests it. Keep

 

14. Theo Walcott. The England international is now 27 – the time for talking about his potential has now passed. This is Walcott, this is how good he can be. Nothing more. He’s already slipped below Alex Iwobi in the pecking order, but he would still go for big money. Sell

15, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. An Arsenal career that has been a series of fits and starts for the 22 year old. Still young enough to have a good career, but Arsenal may not be the right club for him, and vice versa, Sell

16. Aaron Ramsey. An enormously talented player, but his form has not been the best lately. Will not be sold -and nor should he be – but the form of a couple of years ago will have to be matched or bettered to avoid criticism. Keep

17. Alexis Sánchez. Along with Özil, the best player in that squad. Has not been able to replicate his form of last season, and there are rumours that he is becoming frustrated at the club, but is vital to Arsenal while he is there. Keep

18. Nacho Monreal. One of Arsenal’s most consistent and reliable players, will not let them down but will do nothing amazing either. Similar to the Ospina situation last year, no immediate need to upgrade, but if one should become available, it should be considered. Keep

19, Santi Cazorla. Has endured a five month injury layoff and will probably not feature again until next season. Cazorla remains an important player for the squad, however, and should be kept. Keep

20. Mathieu Flamini. As with Rosický and Arteta, his contract his set to expire and there has been no hint of a renewal. Release

 

21. Calum Chambers. Another who has had his fair share of injury problems, 21 year old Chambers is still young enough for it not to be an issue. Wenger is highly unlikely to give up on the £16m signing but will be looking for the youngster to kick on next season. Keep

23. Danny Welbeck. Has looked in brilliant form since returning from almost a year out with injury. He is making the £16m transfer fee look like a bargain, and is answering his critics in a big way. Keep

24. Héctor Bellerín. Dislodged Mathieu Debuchy as the side’s first choice right back last season and hasn’t looked back. Named in this season’s PFA Team of the Year, the future is very promising for the Spaniard for both club and country. Keep.

27. Serge Gnabry. Undoubtedly a player with potential. However, his attitude has been called into question a number of times, and a poor attitude can be detrimental to a player’s career. Spent the first half of the season on loan at West Brom (playing a total of 12 minutes in the league), Gnabry is at a crossroads in his Arsenal career. Another year on loan will make or break him. Send on loan

28. Joel Campbell. Has looked lively, and was in favour before the emergence of Alex Iwobi caused a midfield reshuffle. Wenger waited years for Campbell’s work permit issues to be resolved, but does not appear to know what to do with him now that he has him. Hard to see him staying unless Theo Walcott is definitely sold, and even that may not be enough. Sell

 

33. Petr Čech. One of Arsenal’s outstanding players this year. Fixed a problem that had been setting them back for years (though Ospina was reasonably solid), Čech has been an absolute bargain at £10million. 33 now, but still has a few years left in the tank. Keep

34. Francis Coquelin. Coquelin had something of a breakout year for Arsenal last year, but has looked less assured this season. Has his limitations and is prone to losing discipline. While he should not be sold, his place as a regular starter is already under threat and that is hard to recover from. Keep

35. Mohamed Elneny. Winner of two club Player of the Month awards, what might have been if Wenger had signed the Egyptian international (or indeed, any outfield player) before January. Was a bright spark during the side’s poor run. Keep

45. Alex Iwobi. The team’s breakout star this season, Iwobi has brought his talents to the senior stage in the past few months, and has proven that he is quite at home there. Now a full international with Nigeria and having staked a claim for a permanent starting spot, Iwobi is the brightest young talent Arsenal have produced in years. Keep

Carl Jenkinson: Spent 18 months on loan at West Ham before returning due to injury, where he was hardly pulling up trees even before being ruled out. Jenkinson’s future at the club does not look promising, especially with the much better Bellerín blocking his path. Unlikely to ever be good enough at the highest level. Sell

 

Mathieu Debuchy: On loan at Bordeaux currently, where he may end up staying permanently. Wherever he ends up, it certainly won’t be back with Arsenal. His injury-ravaged time at the Emirates is finished. Sell

Wojciech Szczęsny. Seems to constantly go back and forth about whether or not he’d like to stay at Roma or return to Arsenal. Would be better off staying in Italy. He was set to be the side’s third choice keeper before his loan move, and it’s hard to see how that status would change were he to come back. He certainly wouldn’t be dislodging Čech. Sell

Yaya Sanogo. A failed experiment. Has scored 5 goals since 2013. Currently on loan at Charlton, who have just been relegated to League One. Sell.

Chuba Akpom. Wenger assured the young striker that he will get more chances in the first team when he returns from his loan spell at Hull. Highly rated by the manager, the 20 year old will be given every opportunity to prove himself. Keep

Arsène Wenger: For more reasons than can be summarised in a couple of sentences, Wenger should probably go. There is definitely a sense that he is coming to the end of his time at the club, so in many respects, waiting until next year would only be drawing it out. May have taken the club as far as he can, though he will never admit it. Go

 

 

 

[MartinF]

Ja, la oss selge bare alle de Britiske spillerne våre...

[Corporal Jenkinson]

IMO

 

Beholde:

 

 

Gibbs

Mertesacker

Koscielny

Arteta(manager for u21 elns) 

Wilshere

Özil

Ospina

Ramsey

Alexis

Monreal

Cazorla

Dat Guy

Cech

Iwobi

Corporal Jenko

Akpom

Le Coq

 

Selge

 

Gabriel

Rosický(</3 ) 

Giroud

Gnabry

Joel Campbell

Debuchy

Walcott

Oxlade

 

Låne ut:

Chambers

Szczesny

Sanogo

Wenger

Flamini

 

Fyfaen vi har mye stallfyll... Campbell kan få bli, men Gabriel og Gabriel MÅ ut. Walcott og Oxlade vil jeg også ha ut, men tviler på at noen vil ha de to. 

Endret 10. mai 2016 av Corporal Jenkinson

[MartinF]

Selg/Release:

• Mertesacker
• Chamberlain
• Debuchy
• Sanogo
• Arteta
• Flamini
• Wenger

Lån ut Woj en sesong til, behold resten.

[#Kroenkeout]

 

Arteta(manager for u21 elns) 

 

Har du ikke fått med deg at Kong Henry skal trene u21?

[Corporal Jenkinson]

Leste noe sånt ja. Tror dessverre det er en tabbe.Så flott en fyr og fotballspiller Henry tror jeg ikke han er noe til trener. Arteta derimot kommer til å være en jævla bra manager. Ikke se bort i fra at han er manager i en topp 10 PL klubb om 5 sesonger. 

[#Kroenkeout]

Har lite tro på han som vinnerskalle som har 0 meriter av signifikant betydning. 

[Corporal Jenkinson]

Arteta det? Medaljer betyr lite, fotballforståelse trumfer premier league tittler. 

[MartinF]

Du sier at Thierry Henry ikke har fotballforståelse? Lol.

[Benbjo]

Wenger bekreftet vel mer eller mindre at Arteta går til City etter sesongen. Noe med at vi ikke har plass til ham i trenerstabben da man ikke kan lage "artifical positions" eller noe i den dur