Ny leilighet, hvilken ISP?

[Laxaa]

Om to uker skal jeg flytte inn i en ny leilighet i Bodø. Siden jeg har delt internett med mine husverter på mine forrige bosteder, har jeg da brukt de ISP'ene som de har hatt(siden det var deres internett) Nå, er tiden inne for å "stå på egne ben".

 

Jeg har sett på NGT's 20 Mbps linje, og prisen er bra, I alle fall i forhold til de andre jeg har sett på(Telenor, Tele 2 osv.) Har hørt mye dårlig om NGT's kundeservice de siste årene, men en kompis av meg som hadde NGT i fjor, sa at de hadde forbedret seg. Ser også at Ventelo har 20Mbps linje til omtrent samme pris som NGT.

 

Hva bør jeg egentlig velge? Ventelo eller NGT, eller kanskje noen andre har noe som er bedre? Og hva er leveringstidene på dette?

[b-real]

Personlig så hadde jeg nok valgt Ventelo, dog det er mitt personlig valg nettopp pga NGT har hatt en del dårlig kundeservice selv om "de" sier at de har forbedret seg. Men selvfølgelig så kan man være uheldig å få dårlig service hos hvilken som helst ISP.

 

Siden du bor i Bodø, hva kan Salten bredbånd f.eks tilby? Er det andre leverandører i Bodø sitt lokalmiljø som kan tilby det samme, har du undersøkt det?

[Laxaa]

Salten bredbånd har jeg faktisk ikke tenkt på, men ser at de er ganske dyre. 12Mbps for 999,- i måneden blir for dyrt, men på en annen side, så er det jo symetriske linjer de har. Dessuten er det jo full fiber også.

 

EDIT: Så etableringsavgiften. Ouch.

Endret 17. juli 2007 av Laxaa

[b-real]

Det var en dyr pris å betale for 12mbits. Sitter selv på 25/15 for 699,- fra vkbb.no så Salten bredbånd tar seg vist groovt betalt så da er nok ADSL perhaps et greiere valg.

[Laxaa]

Det ser slik ut. Vesterålkraft har et bra tilbud, det er bare synd at man ikke får det samme i Bodø. Ventelo leverer til den gaten jeg skal bo i, så kanskje jeg bare skulle gå for dem. Det hadde ikke vært noe problem for meg å hatt 6Mbps fra Salten Bredbånd, men det koster tross alt 6000+ kroner for å få det i hus.

[c-naptik]

Sorry to hijack this thread in English. Jeg kan skrive litt på norsk, men ikke så bra..beklager.

 

I moved to Tromsø not long ago and I'm looking at ISPs here. I'm also interested in NGT.

 

I actually need to install a new phone line where I'm staying, so my questions are:

 

- Is Telenor the only one to carry out this kind of installation?

- How much does it cost and how long does it take?

- Are there alternatives with other ISP that offer totally unbundled lines (phone + Internet) so I wouldn't have to take a subscription with Telenor or other?

- Are there any ISPs in Norway that offer free unlimited VoIP calls? TV over ADSL?

 

Takk for deres hjelp!

[Zappza]

Hi!

 

I will begin from the top.

 

- Yes, Telenor is the only phoneoperator in Norway, so they have to install your phoneline. That is if you need a whole new phoneline from the telephonecentral.

 

If there already is stretched a phonecabel to your apartment almost any ISP can install your phoneline.

 

- I have no idea what it might cost if you have to lay a whole new phonecable in the ground, but I don't think that that will actually nessicary because almost every single house in Tromsø has a phoneline connected to it.

 

- You don't have to sign a telephone contract to get ADSL from Telenor or any other ISP. That is completly optional.

 

- If you want to have TV, VoIP and internet through one ISP, I will strongly recommand Troms Kraft Fiber. Their solution isn't ADSL, but fiberoptics, and you will get a high-speed internet connection, TV and VoIP for a small charge.

This does how ever cost 3-4000 thousand NOK to install, and it is only avalible in certain areas of Tromsø.

 

 

If you can read and understand norwegian, take a look at their website: http://www.tromsbynett.no

[Big_JT]

Når det kommer til brukerstøtte tror jeg ikke ventelo og NGT er så veldig forskjellige. Den største forskjellen ligger nok i pris og at hos NGT får man en ruter, mens ventelo gir deg et bridgemodem med fordelene/ulempene det gir.

[Firat]

Når det kommer til brukerstøtte tror jeg ikke ventelo og NGT er så veldig forskjellige. Den største forskjellen ligger nok i pris og at hos NGT får man en ruter, mens ventelo gir deg et bridgemodem med fordelene/ulempene det gir.

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Du får en router av Ventelo för 1kr.

[frank_jarle]

Sorry to hijack this thread in English. Jeg kan skrive litt på norsk, men ikke så bra..beklager.

 

I moved to Tromsø not long ago and I'm looking at ISPs here. I'm also interested in NGT.

 

I actually need to install a new phone line where I'm staying, so my questions are:

 

- Is Telenor the only one to carry out this kind of installation?

- How much does it cost and how long does it take?

- Are there alternatives with other ISP that offer totally unbundled lines (phone + Internet) so I wouldn't have to take a subscription with Telenor or other?

- Are there any ISPs in Norway that offer free unlimited VoIP calls? TV over ADSL?

 

Takk for deres hjelp!

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Telenor is the sole owner of all the copper lines in Norway, but its not telenor themselfs that connect to their lines when you order a phoneline, in most cases thats Sønnico. the best way is to look around for a phone subscription (that is if you like to have a regular phoneline analogue/ISDN) this can be through Telenor, tele2 or others. When you request this they will make all the arrangement to get you connected. To get connected first time is around 1000krones, and it takes from 4-21working days (it depends how many people that is ahead of you in the system). Any phone operator will have a monthly charge for this, in my case i have Telenor analog and pay around 259krones a month and have free phone calls to any house phone in Norway.

 

There is also another option of not connect to the "phone line" but only connect your brodband connection, in that case you will have have to pay an extra monthly "connection fee" of around 60krones in addition to your broadband connection.

 

 

May i suggest: Telepriser - broadband

 

here you can see the different speeds and providers.

 

Frankie

[Big_JT]

Telenor uses sub contractors to connect the lines. At the moment Sønnico, Relacom and Eltel Networks got a contract to work for Telenor in deferent parts of Norway.

[Danny Boy]

Jeg anbefaler Bredbåndsguiden.no om du skal ha ny ISP. Der er det bare å skrive inn adressen din, og navn og hotmail, så vil den automatisk finne alle ISP'er du kan ha. I tillegg er det satt opp et ratings-system hvor brukerene kan rate om ISP-ene deres er gode eller ikke.

 

Etter det jeg har sett nå, ligger Telenor (dritt)dårlig an, mens Ventelo har fått mange stjerner og ligger dermed herlig og godt høyt oppe Og etter den kommer NextGentel og Tele2.

 

Har selv bestilt Ventelo 6000mbit ned/640kbps opp. Når du har logget deg selv inn, og skrevet adressen din ned, vil det komme en beskrivelse av plassen din, slik som her f.eks. på "Min Side":

Din linje

Du befinner deg på KVERNEVIK sentralen og husstanden din er 940 meter fra denne. Vi har også registrert at tråddiameteren din er 0,6mm . Maks produkthastighet er registrert til ADSL 7232/640, men dette kan variere dersom leverandøren har eget utstyr i sentralen. Disse tallene er basert på informasjon hentet fra Kapaks* den 27.07.07.

[agvg]

Jeg anbefaler Bredbåndsguiden.no om du skal ha ny ISP. Der er det bare å skrive inn adressen din, og navn og hotmail, så vil den automatisk finne alle ISP'er du kan ha. I tillegg er det satt opp et ratings-system hvor brukerene kan rate om ISP-ene deres er gode eller ikke.

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De finner bare de ISP-ene de har avtale med så de får provisjon, man bør nok ikke stole helt på denne.

har selv testet de mot adresser med Lyse-fiber og de insisterer på at man må velge ADSL selv om dette er ett latterlig alternativ.

[Danny Boy]

Det visste jeg ikke. Takk for infoen

[c-naptik]

Thanks a lot for your replies Zappza and Frank!

 

It turns out there is already an analog phone socket where I live in the basement, which I didn't know at first.

 

It has been in use in the past. I suppose it should cost less than 1000 kr to re-connect in this case? I've heard around 400.

 

I appreciate the details you gave me Frank.

I'm especially interested in that solution that involves paying additional connection fee of 60 kr.

If I understand correctly, this would avoid having to pay a regular monthly subscription to any telecom provider? (Telenor, Tele2 etc).

 

Don't I need a active telephone number to subscribe with any ISP first?

 

As for Troms Kraft Fiber Zappza, I had heard about it, thanks for the link!

From what I read on there, it seems like it costs around 28 000 kr...of which 60% can be financed. Whatever the price, it's not worth it considering my situation. Maybe when I buy a house in Tromsø in the future!

[huron]

If I understand correctly, this would avoid having to pay a regular monthly subscription to any telecom provider? (Telenor, Tele2 etc).

 

Don't I need a active telephone number to subscribe with any ISP first?

 

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No you dont. But you maybe need to have an technical engineer to verify that your phone line is actually working. It will cost you around 600-900Nok and you will in most cases get the internett connection on the same day if everything runs smoothly.

 

with my experiences i would not choose Ventelo! go for NGT

 

good luck

[c-naptik]

If I understand correctly, this would avoid having to pay a regular monthly subscription to any telecom provider? (Telenor, Tele2 etc).

 

Don't I need a active telephone number to subscribe with any ISP first?

 

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No you dont. But you maybe need to have an technical engineer to verify that your phone line is actually working. It will cost you around 600-900Nok and you will in most cases get the internett connection on the same day if everything runs smoothly.

 

with my experiences i would not choose Ventelo! go for NGT

 

good luck

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Thank you for your input. I placed an order with NGT earlier today, I think the cost is around 500 to have an engineer check the phone line. Wonder how long the whole thing will take.

 

I hope NGT will be fine, I read quite a lot of bad stories!

 

Is there any independent website where I can check how far I am from the nearest ADSL exchange (sentral)?

[huron]

All info is coming from kapaks regarding your line lenght. Check this link:

http://www.freakforum.nu/forum/showthread.php?t=17603

 

Regarding the installation its normal to take atleast 2-4 weeks. And all the bad stories you have heard about they are all old. Just be relaxed. Most ppl is to stressed out and makes everything into one big thing just because the installation took one week longer than expected....

 

I had an installation for ngt for some friends not long ago and i got no problems. Hope you will have the same.

Endret 30. juli 2007 av huron

[c-naptik]

Great link, thank you very much!

 

Kapaks displays the line capacity but not the actual distance from the ADSL exchange. It's still good info to have!

 

Result is 3616/512...so bad. I'm surprised that I could be so far out from the central (at least 4km with such a rate), Tromsø is not that big and I live in a quite dense area.

 

Looks like problems with NGT are old, you're right, last year, I don't see anything terrible in recent posts on forums.

[Zappza]

As for Troms Kraft Fiber Zappza, I had heard about it, thanks for the link!

From what I read on there, it seems like it costs around 28 000 kr...of which 60% can be financed. Whatever the price, it's not worth it considering my situation. Maybe when I buy a house in Tromsø in the future!

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Yeah, I am know that it costs much to get, and it isn't worth it if you arent going to live in that location for a while.

 

But if you do buy a house and connect fiber to it, the value of the house will increase