Vil vi til slutt få èn verdensregjering?

[vanedyret]

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/flaherty/flaherty1.html

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/flaherty/flaherty2.html

[Decline]

Foreløpig sletter ikke EU noen landegrenser eller nasjonaliteter, så sånn sett er det ikke et steg på veien. Det kan jo selvsagt utvikle seg i andre retninger.

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Nå var det vel i forslaget om EU-grunnlov lagt inn felles flagg og diverse annet snop, også felles nasjonalsang om jeg ikke husker feil? Nå ble den ikke vedtatt da for mange protesterte heldigvis.

[Anathema]

Nå var det vel i forslaget om EU-grunnlov lagt inn felles flagg og diverse annet snop, også felles nasjonalsang om jeg ikke husker feil? Nå ble den ikke vedtatt da for mange protesterte heldigvis.

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Det er godt mulig, jeg vet desverre ikke mer om EU enn den vanlige mann i gata. Men jeg er sannelig glad det ikke ble noe av det forslaget.

 

Er det ingen som tror det ligger noe i dette med verdensbankerne og hva deres objektiver er?

[vanedyret]

Tenker du på:

Rockefeller- og Rothschild-slekten o.l., eller

EUs Sentralbank og Federal Reserve o.l., eller

Internation Monetary Fund og Bank of International Settlements o.l.?

[Anathema]

Rockerfeller og Rothschild o.l. - Spesielt etter den telefonsamtalen hvor en av Rockerfellerne forklarer planene deres for fremtiden.

[vanedyret]

En Rockefeller har i hvertfall litt innflytelse i think-tanken Council of Foreign Relations, og muligens andre. De utgir jo magasinet Foreign Affairs som visstnok skal ha stor innflytelse i amerikansk, så vel som internasjonal politikk. En rekke høytstående medlemmer, både republikanere og demokrater har de også. For ikke å nevne konsernene som er medlemmer. Men om han gjennom slike institusjoner kan presse gjennom en skjult agenda er jeg blitt mer og mer skeptisk til, men også lei av å lese om.

 

Det betyr ikke at det ikke jobbes for å oppnå en slags verdensregjering. Jeg vil nå si vi er på god vei allerede. Europa er allerede en union og har en felles valuta. Den samme overgangen foregår mer eller mindre i det skjulte i Nord-Amerika (det virker ikke å være oppspinn, men rett meg gjerne). Hvorvidt det er flere unioner som er under planelgging har jeg ikke så mye greie på, men jeg har sett noen løse rykter.

 

Problemet for oss "i gata" er at vi blir mer og mer distansert fra politikk. Hvem i dag har oversikten over hvordan verden styres? FN, EU, WTO, IMF, World Bank, .. (jeg nevner vel bare en dråpe i havet). Industri og større konsern får mer innflytelse over politikk, og til sammen er det vel dette en del av det som kalles globalisering. Vi har muligens ikke lagd noen verdensregjering, men et ustoppelig verdensbyråkrati vokser seg stadig større. "De som ikke interesserer seg i politikk, vil for alltid styres av de som er det."

 

Den dagen lokalt, regionalt og nasjonalt utvider seg til å også gjelde unionalt og globalt tror jeg at jeg melder meg ut av politikk. Men det har jeg nå gjort allerede

 

Edit: Artig artikkel med tanke på tema: http://www.rorg.no/Artikler/1574.html

Endret 30. juli 2007 av vanedyret

[Abbern]

Jeg så filmen equilibrium i går, der folket styres i et enevelde hvor teorien er at hvis alt styres i et rike, vil det aldri bli krig. I mitt syn, går verden hele tiden mot en felles union, for å unngå kriger. FN er etterhvert blitt et giganstisk maktaparat, og hvis det ikke er dannet i gode hensikter, er det i alle fall et ypperlig bytte for de som vil drive massepropaganda.

 

Selvfølgelig har det vært et skritt på veien med dannelsen av EU, dannelsen av den amerikanske union osv. Mye av dette blir holdt hemmelig, fordi folk vil skjønne at dette er "good for business, bad for people".

 

Når man hører hvor mye makt enkelte familier har (Rockefeller, Rothchild, Goldmam & Sachs, osv..) synes jeg det blir naivt å tro at ikke disse har en viss inflytelse på verdenshistorien de siste hundre årene.

[Abbern]

Ryktene skal ha det til at EU-grunnloven er tilbake

 

http://infowars.com/articles/nwo/eu_consti...s_than_ever.htm

 

Disse sidene har ofte sin egen agenda, men likevel. Sjekk det ut

[Anathema]

Jeg må innrømme at jeg har mistet tråden på hva de forskjellige familiene har fingrene med i spillet på og ikke.

 

Hvem eier størsteparten av The Federal Reserve, feks? Hvilken rolle har Rockerfellerne i det hele..?

[vanedyret]

http://www.federalreserve.gov/bios/default.htm

http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/...ors/default.cfm

http://www.federalreserve.gov/bios/boardmembership.htm

 

Når det kommer til Federal Reserve liker jeg å høre på Ron Paul. Vet ikke hvorfor, men jjeg har litt sans for denne mannen. OBS! Han har vært med i en god del konspirasjonsdokumentarer som er relatert til Federal Reserve.

 

Ron Paul 0wnz the Federal Reserve

 

In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply — making each dollar in your pocket worth less. The Fed is a private bank run by unelected officials who are not required to be open or accountable to “we the people.”

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/debt-and-taxes/

 

Abolish the Federal Reserve

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr091002b.htm

 

Om det han sier er fornuftig har jeg null peiling på.

Endret 30. juli 2007 av vanedyret

[Parapraxis]

Er vel tydelig at verden går mot en sentral regjering, spørsmålet er vel heller om det vil være et system basert på frykt og kontroll eller et samfunn med opplyste mennesker som alle tar ansvar for sine egne handlinger. Det samfunnet finnes såvidt jeg vet ikke idag.

[Cubus]

Ang filmen er det Jordan Maxwell som prater på begynnelsen...heter vel Basic Slideshow Presentation (correct me if I'm wrong)

EU er definitivt et steg på veien mot en verdensregjering - verdensdelene skal samles under hver sin paraply akkurat som EU med en verdensregjering på toppen.

 

 

 

“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you”

[Endgame]

er litt kjipt hvis det stemmer at de vil ha verdensbefolkningen ned i 500 mill...

[Myrstad]

er litt kjipt hvis det stemmer at de vil ha verdensbefolkningen ned i 500 mill...

det hørtes veldig merkelig ut, hvor har du hørt dette?

[Ballemannen]

er litt kjipt hvis det stemmer at de vil ha verdensbefolkningen ned i 500 mill...

det hørtes veldig merkelig ut, hvor har du hørt dette?

Jeg mener å huske Alex Jones nevnte det i End Game, men kildene han refererer til er vel ikke alltid like respektable.

[Myrstad]

er litt kjipt hvis det stemmer at de vil ha verdensbefolkningen ned i 500 mill...

det hørtes veldig merkelig ut, hvor har du hørt dette?

Det høres jo litt dumt ut da? det er jo 300mill bare i USA. Hvis dem skal ha det ned så drastisk så har dem jo nesten ikke noe og styre. Det ville jo vert mer logisk og "trimma" oss med 1 eller 2 milliarder?

[hartvedten]

Man er ganske naiv hvis man tror at ikke tror at vi vil få en verdensregjering.

 

Vi begynte som jegere, levde i små stammer. høvdinger

 

Vi fikk en jordbruksrevolusjon, begynte leve med småkonger etter som befolkningen ble større.

 

Vi utviklet jordbruk, våpen og kirken begynte å preke dritt om hvordan mennesker skulle leve.

 

Vi begynte kriger der alle verdensdeler var involvert, to ganger.

 

Vi deler land opp i kontinenter, grensene har ikke så mye å si for kapital.

 

Så hvis utviklingen har gått kun en vei siden vi var nomade jegere, er det ikke naivt å tro at vi en dag skal samles under en og samme stupide leder. EU og USA er bare begynnelsen, de andre vil følge etter.

 

Jeg tror ikke på at landegrenser vil forsvinne under et flag, hvis noen vil oppnå verdensdominans har de allerede klart det, nybyggerne lurte indianerne med perler og brennevin, bankene lurer oss med papirlapper.

 

Hvis jeg ikke hadde hatt noen formening om verdien av penger, ville jeg gått for perlene.

[cnon]

Har dere sett "Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement"?

 

Da Siv Jensen dukka opp på et møte for "Verdenseliten", holdt jeg på å le meg ihjæl.

 

Men alt i alt, så virker det som om Alex Jones er inne på noe.

[Naranek]

Begynte å se filmen, og jeg skjønte fort at dette var bare tull (da de begynte å ramse opp "fakta" om Horus), så jeg søkte litt rundt og fant denne: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=98970

[Ballemannen]

Begynte å se filmen, og jeg skjønte fort at dette var bare tull

mener du at kristendommen IKKE er utspunnet i fra hedenske ritualer og tradisjoner?

mener du at jesus, guds sønn, ble født av en jomfru på mirakuløst vis?

 

Similarities Between Jesus and Horus

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1. Both were conceived of a virgin.

 

2. Both were the "only begotten son" of a god (either Osiris or Yahweh)

 

3. Horus's mother was Meri, Jesus's mother was Mary.

 

4. Horus's foster father was called Jo-Seph, and Jesus's foster father was Joseph.

 

5. Both foster fathers were of royal descent.

 

6. Both were born in a cave (although sometimes Jesus is said to have been born in a stable).

 

7. Both had their coming announced to their mother by an angel.

 

8. Horus; birth was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star). Jesus had his birth heralded by a star in the East (the sun rises in the East).

 

9. Ancient Egyptians celebrated the birth of Horus on December 21 (the Winter Solstice). Modern Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25.

 

10. Both births were announced by angels (this si nto the same as number 7).

 

11. Both had shepherds witnessing the birth.

 

12. Horus was visited at birth by "three solar deities" and Jesus was visited by "three wise men".

 

13. After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have Horus murdered. After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.

 

14. To hide from Herut, the god That tells Isis, "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." To hide from Herod, an angel tells Joseph to "arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."

 

15. When Horus came of age, he had a special ritual where hsi eye was restored. When Jesus (and other Jews) come of age, they have a special ritual called a Bar Mitzvah.

 

16. Both Horus and Jesus were 12 at this coming-of-age ritual.

 

17. Neither have any official recorded life histories between the ages of 12 and 30.

 

18. Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus. Jesus was baptized in the river Jordan.

 

19. Both were baptized at age 30.

 

20. Horus was baptized by Anup the Baptizer. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.

 

21. Both Anup and John were later beheaded.

 

22. Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set. Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Satan.

 

23. Both Horus and Jesus successfully resist this temptation.

 

24. Both have 12 disciples.

 

25. Both walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, and restored sight to the blind.

 

26. Horus "stilled the sea by his power." Jesus commanded the sea to be still by saying, "Peace, be still."

 

27. Horus raised his dead father (Osiris) from the grave. Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave. (Note the similarity in names when you say them out loud. Further, Osiris was also known as Asar, which is El-Asar in Hebrew, which is El-Asarus in Latin.)

 

28. Osiris was raised in the town of Anu. Lazarus was raised in Bethanu (literally, "house of Anu").

 

29. Both gods delivered a Sermon on the Mount.

 

30. Both were crucified.

 

31. Both were crucified next to two thieves.

 

32. Both were buried in a tomb.

 

33. Horus was sent to Hell and resurrected in 3 days. Jesus was sent to Hell and came back "three days" later (although Friday night to Sunday morning is hardly three days).

 

34. Both had their resurrection announced by women.

 

35. Both are supposed to return for a 1000-year reign.

 

36. Horus is known as KRST, the anointed one. Jesus was known as the Christ (which means "anointed one").

 

37. Both Jesus and Horus have been called the good shepherd, the lamb of God, the bread of life, the son of man, the Word, the fisher, and the winnower.

 

38. Both are associated with the zodiac sign of Pisces (the fish).

 

39. Both are associated with the symbols of the fish, the beetle, the vine, and the shepherd's crook.

 

40. Horus was born in Anu ("the place of bread") and Jesus was born in Bethlehem ("the house of bread").

 

41. "The infant Horus was carried out of Egypt to escape the wrath of Typhon. The infant Jesus was carried into Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod. Concerning the infant Jesus, the New Testament states the following prophecy: 'Out of Egypt have I called my son.'" (See Point 13)

 

42. Both were transfigured on the mount.

 

43. The catacombs of Rome have pictures of the infant Horus being held by his mother, not unlike the modern-day images of "Madonna and Child."

 

44. Noted English author C. W. King says that both Isis and Mary are called "Immaculate".

 

45. Horus says: "Osiris, I am your son, come to glorify your soul, and to give you even more power." And Jesus says: "Now is the Son of Man glorified and God is glorified in him. If God is glorified in him, God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once."

 

46. Horus was identified with the Tau (cross).

 

Similarities between Jesus and Krishna

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Hindus believe that Krishna was the eighth "avatar" or incarnation of the god Vishnu - one of the Hindu deities in the Hindu trinity. Hindu scriptures state that Krishna "appeared in all the fullness of his power and glory." Krishna was born sometime between 900 and 1200 B.C. and his religious teachings can be found in the Bhagavad-Gita, one of the sacred texts in Hinduism. The karmic similarities between Jesus and the Hindu messiah named Krishna (1200 B.C.) are many. There over one hundred similarities between the Hindu and Christian saviors which could easily fill a volume. Some of these similarities are apocryphal which means their source comes from the extra-canonical scriptures of Hinduism.

Identical Life Experiences

(1)

 

Krishna was miraculously conceived and born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One") as a divine incarnation.

(2) He was born at a time when his family had to travel to pay the yearly tax.

(3) His father was a carpenter yet Krishna was born of royal descent.

(4)

 

His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds, and he was presented with gifts.

(5)

 

He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants who feared that the divine child would supplant his kingdom.

(6)

 

His father was warned by a heavenly voice to flee the tyrant who sought the death of the child. The child was then saved by friends who fled with them in the night to a distant country. When the tyrant learned that his attempt to kill the child failed, he issued a decree that all the infants in the area be put to death. Writing about Krishna in the eighteenth century, Sir William Jones stated, "In the Sanskrit dictionary, compiled more than two thousand years ago, we have the whole history of the incarnate deity, born of a virgin, and miraculously escaping in infancy from the reigning tyrant of his country." (Asiatic Researches, Vol. I, p. 273).

(7)

 

The Bible states that Jesus and family fled to Egypt afterward to escape from King Herod. According to the Christian apocryphal text "the Gospel of the Infancy," the family traveled to Maturea, Egypt. Krishna was born in Maturea, India, hundreds of years earlier.

(8) He was baptized in the River Ganges.

(9) The missions of Krishna and Jesus were the same - the salvation of humanity.

(10)

 

Krishna worked miracles and wonders such as raising the dead and healing lepers, the deaf and the blind.

(11) Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love.

(12)

 

Jesus taught his disciples about the possibility of removing a mountain by faith. According to tradition, Krishna raised Mount Goverdhen above his disciples to protect his worshipers from the wrath of Indra.

(13) "He lived poor and he loved the poor."

(14) Krishna washed the feet of the Brahmins and transfigured before his disciples.

(15)

 

Krishna's teachings and Jesus' teachings were very similar. The celebrated French missionary and traveler, Evarist-Regis Hucv, who made a journey of several thousand miles through China and Tibet, stated, "If we addressed a Mogul or Tibetan this question, 'Who is Krishna?' the reply was instantly 'The savior of men." According to Robert Cheyne, "All that converting the Hindoos to Christianity does for them is to change the object of their worship from Krishna to Christ." Appleton's Cyclopedia says this about the teachings of Krishna: "Its correspondence with the New Testament is indeed striking."

(16)

 

There is an extra-canonical Hindu tradition which states that Krishna was crucified. According to some traditions, Krishna died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves.

(17)

 

He descended to hell, rose bodily from the dead, and ascended to heaven which was witnessed by many.

(18)

 

Krishna is called the "shepherd god" and "lord of lords," and was considered "the redeemer, firstborn, sin bearer, liberator, universal Word."

(19)

 

He is the second person of the trinity, and proclaimed himself the "resurrection" and the "way to the Father."

(20)

 

He was considered the "beginning, the middle and the end," ("alpha and omega"), as well as being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

(21) His disciples bestowed upon him the title "Jezeus," meaning "pure essence."

(22)

 

Krishna is to return again riding a white horse to do battle with the "prince of evil," who will desolate the earth.