Lære seg å growle, eller daumetall-vokal

[Programvare]

Jeg fikk litt lyst til å lære meg å growle, eller å lære meg death metal-vokal. Slik som Stian Thoresen, eller Mikael Åkerfeldt. (

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Noen som har noen tips? Jeg klarer faktisk å synge clean ganske greit.

 

edit: Jeg prøvde å synge Master's Apprentices av Opeth, men jeg klarte ikke å få stemmen så dyp så jeg fikk bare vondt i halsen *gå og ete halstabletter*

Endret 5. juni 2007 av SirChris

[Olum]

Aner ikke hvor du kan lære det , men ikke øv for mye på det før du kan det riktig. Man kan faktisk få ganske store skader på stemmebåndet om man growler altfor mye og ikke gjør det på riktig måte. Aner ikke hvor mye du må growle for at dette skal skje, men bare en advarsel

Endret 5. juni 2007 av Olumvolum

[Edmund Blackadder]

Jeg tror det brukes en egen teknikk som det tar år å utvikle. Hørte noe om at man åpner på en måte noen ekstra stemmebånd eller noe. Kanskje du skal få snakket med noen som kan growle skikkelig.

[fbassbassbass]

Personlig varmer jeg opp med å bare rope veldig, veldig høyt, for så å få mer og mer growl inn i bilde, tilslutt blir resultatet som jeg vil ha det

Husk å bruk magemusklene, stram skikkelig til.

 

Og ha alltid en flaske vann tilstede! Det trenger i alle fall jeg

[Edmund Blackadder]

Men det er noe man må gjøre med halsen for at det skal funke... Iallefall det jeg har hørt.

[fbassbassbass]

Vel...Hva man må gjøre med halsen er vel heller vanskelig å forklare. Bare øv, øv og øv, så blir det til slutt skal du se

[Iverfar]

Jeg har alltid kunnet snakke/skrike eldig grovt, noe lignende det der: O

hvordan vet jeg ikke

[gard.]

Vet ikke helt om det funker, men poster det likevel jeg. Det er på engelsk da..

How to properly: stress your vocal chords without hurting yourself and sounding good.

Steps:

 

1. Decide whether you will have a low, mid, or a high scream. This is NOT decided by your regular speaking voice. if you have a low voice, for example, your scream will be louder, and more powerful. If you have a higher voice, your scream will be quiter, and not as powerful. Listen to different bands and find a scream which you believe is in your scream range.

2. Learning to scream safely can take approximately a year, and for the first many months, often times, it simply sounds bad. Don't give up. It will come out eventually, and after a lot of practice.

3. There are both mental and physical aspects to screaming. First, the warm- ups.

4. Go up and down a simple 5-note scale, the same old boring 5-note scale used in just about every choir as a warm- up, but do it on 'ga.' Make sure that you do it from all parts of your throat, it will make different sounds when you switch parts. This is more of a mental warm-up. It trains your body to accept the potentially harmful feeling on the vocal chords while making a raw sound.

5. Next, sing the sounds of the vowels-- Eh, Ee, Ah, Oh, Oo --on that same 5-note scale, except every time you pass by, try putting a little raspiness on one of the vowels. Try pulling the sound up the back of the throat and through the nostrils, making it a more nasally sound. THIS TRICK WILL SAVE YOUR VOCAL CHORDS. At first this exercise will make you sound like you're in pain, and you just might be, if you don't do it correctly.

6. Now, the mental aspect, which is VERY important. You must pour your heart and soul into a song just like you pour your body (vocal chords) into it or else it won't sound sincere. It's an attitude thing, it makes 100% of a difference if you mean what you're singing and put emotion into it. This also helps with using your diaphragm, since you will most likely use it to emphasize mostly everything already.

7. You may have some jaw-cramping even if you are not experienced with screaming/growling. DO NOT continue a scream if you get a cramp! You won't be able to scream/sing/growl for weeks afterwards.

 

 

Tips:

 

* Practice screaming into a pillow. this makes it much easier for beginners.

* Once you have decided what pitch you are going for take a deep breath. Push the air out of your lungs and let the air dance off your throat. For some it helps to tighten the throat. Don't do this too tight, though; you may harm your vocal chords.

* Scream from your diaphragm. This is very similar to singing. Make sure the air and voice you are using is coming from your chest and not your head. The first way you will be able to tell if you are screaming from your head is if the pitch isn't similar to your speaking voice. The second way is if your chest doesn't recede when you are pushing the air.

* Take a deep breath whenever possible, in between screams. You don't want to hurt yourself and you also don't want the scream to sound forced [i.e. cracking and losing pitch].

* Scream alone for a while, it can be embarrassing to scream around others who already know how to scream. Once you are ready show them your scream and let them honestly critique it.

* DO NOT scream each scream with all of your air. Moderation is the key, if you use everything you have, it'll hurt very badly and not sound good at all.

* Scream along with music, especially songs in which screaming is already taking place.

* Scream along with music that has no screaming and see how it sounds. You will have your own personal sounding scream that no one else in the world has.

* Drink lots of water before, during, and after screaming.

* To avoid some harm to the vocal chords, add a slight 'yeh' sound before each dangerous inner-word vowel. So, 'attack' would sound like 'attyack,' etc.

* To avoid some more harm to the vocal chords, scream nasally. Imagine that the sound is going up and out of your nose. This helps with both health and sound.

* IF YOU WANT TO SOUND NORMAL! If you find that you have trouble with raspiness in your voice while you're trying to perform in choir or a musical, sing from your upper back and make sure that you sing 'from your eyes.' If this explanation makes no sense, try envisioning it and feeling it. It should work. Also, try singing more nasally and not so deep in the vocal chords. This will also make you project more and (while it might not make a perfect sound) it'll make you louder. If none of this works, drink a lot of water, and perhaps try changing voice parts. If you scream in the tenor range, try singing baritone, and vice- versa, etc. There's also the option of a vocal rest. Don't scream for a while, don't sing. Talk, whisper and hum for a while and your voice should come back eventually. If nothing works, there are vocal surgeries that are very expensive and painful, but it'll get the job done.

* Skill in death metal singing can be a great jumpstart for learning to scream, especially for metal screaming.

 

 

Warnings:

 

* Make sure your voice doesn't hurt too bad after you scream. This means that you are stressing your vocal chords too much. Loosen up and let it out.

* Also, be prepared to have a hard time singing correctly again. The raspiness will most likely be permanently engraved into your vocal chords and, while you will be able to scream safely, it will rule out any pretty choir or musical that you want to be in. Of course, there are other tips to overcome this listed in the Tips section.

[Rino_]

Hmm... men altså. Dimmu growl er jo helt anderledes og mye enklere en Opeth growl. Vis man ikke har så dyp stemme er det best å prøve på dimmu, in flames style.. (tipper jeg )

[Gjest Slettet-U4NJ3Omm]

Du skal presse sammen halsen (twange epiglottishornet), slik at du kan synge belting. Når du synger belting skal du kunne høres ut som ei sånn ond heks i en eller annen barnefilm. Når du har gjort det, skal du bare presse luft ut så det kommer en growlelyd, uten å bruke stemme. Husk å bruke mye støtte fra magen når du growler, og stopp hvis det begynner å gjøre vondt i halsen. En løsning på at det gjør vondt, kan være å bruke mer støtte. Hvis du får til growlinga kan du og legge en tone under. Da høres det ut som en vrengt stemme som synger

Jævlig vanskelig å forklare her

 

Du kan også synge ral som bare er å gurgle med spytt eller noe i halsen.

 

Da jeg hadde dette i sangtimen fikk jeg det ikke til, for det er ganske vanskelig, men det jeg gjør når jeg growler er å bare brøle i lyst toneleie.

 

Som sagt. Ekstremt vanskelig å forklare her

 

Edit: Når man synger belting er det og lettere om du lager dobbelthake, og åpner munnen sidelengs, men ikke oppover til et "smil".

 

Og som det står over: Varm opp først!

Endret 13. juni 2007 av Slettet-U4NJ3Omm

[Azehead]

Hvor fant du den guiden?

[Kakebakelate]

takk for tipsene, har lenge tenkt på å lære meg å growle..

[Gjest Slettet+981234789]

du burde kjøpe deg denne dvd`en, så og si alle som er growlister idag har brukt hu dama her, lærer utrolig mye og hvor mye feil folk egentlig tar når det gjelder growling screamo vokal...

 

The Zen of Screaming

[apegryn]

http://www.jokefrog.com/flash/growl-karaoke.shtml

[Megnus]

skriking er gøy .** henger meg på denne**

 

(bare det at jeg liker bedre skrik som marilyn manson, chester bennington osv. Litt vanskeligere og det kanskje)

[GRØNÅS]

Kan growle selv. Ikke så perfekt da, siden jeg har en dendens til å havarere stemmebåndet litt når jeg gjør det. Men det kommer jo med trening.

[michael691]

Kan growle selv. Ikke så perfekt da, siden jeg har en dendens til å havarere stemmebåndet litt når jeg gjør det. Men det kommer jo med trening.

 

 

Kan growle.

 

Et godt tips: Bruk brystet, Ikke bruk halsen, trekk inn mye luft og bruk brystet og press ut growlen.

 

 

Det kommer fra Death Metal kongen himself CorpseGrinder