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[Hagforce]

RostislaV

 

Can I ask what you want with this information?.

[RostislaV]

RostislaV

 

Can I ask what you want with this information?.

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normal interesting of branch in which I do work and interesting how it`s situation with this branch in the state in which I want to live ...

 

absolutely normal interesting - does not you find this so ?

[TheGizmo]

Download: 4400kbps

Upload: 640kbps

ISP: Ventelo BlueCom

Price: 349NOK/month (Student price)

Connection type: ADSL

Place: Oslo

 

Mother / father in law

Download: 4000kbps

Upload: 1000kbps

ISP: Gipz

Price: 389NOK/month

Connection type: RADIO

Place: Vinterbro@Akershus

[JKJK]

This might help you.

 

This is a calculator called "telepriser.no" where you can compare different isp's in norway.

 

The page is in norwegian, but shouldn't be too difficult to read.

 

Here is some translations (some of these are shorts):

 

Tilbyder/ produktnavn: the name of the ISP

Månedskost: Price pr. month

Etabl.kost: etablish charge

Forutsetn: premises

Ja: yes

Nei: no

Hastighet: speed

Pris kbit/s: calculated price pr. kilobit pr. second

Bind.tid: lock-in period.

 

Hope this helps

 

So you want to move to norway? From where? (sorry if it's rude asking...)

Edit: forget it.. found your webpage

Endret 5. februar 2007 av JKJK

[BeFs]

Cable connection does only have one line to transfer data. That means you can not upload and download at the same time, and get full speed both ways.

E.x. If you have 2mbit down, and 512kbit up. You can only download at 1.5mbit, if you upload at 512kbit.

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This is just plain wrong in so many ways, I even don't know where to begin...

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Then explain the differences between cable and ADSL.

[RostislaV]

Cable connection does only have one line to transfer data. That means you can not upload and download at the same time, and get full speed both ways.

E.x. If you have 2mbit down, and 512kbit up. You can only download at 1.5mbit, if you upload at 512kbit.

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This is just plain wrong in so many ways, I even don't know where to begin...

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Then explain the differences between cable and ADSL.

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there is really BIG difference ... such large that even don`t wishing nor ZanZel nor me to explain this ...

Endret 5. februar 2007 av RostislaV

[JKJK]

Then explain the differences between cable and ADSL.

 

 

Please take that in an another thread...

Endret 5. februar 2007 av JKJK

[TheGizmo]

Then explain the differences between cable and ADSL.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adsl

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaxial_cable

 

Edit: And that is it with adsl vs. cable

Endret 5. februar 2007 av TheGizmo

[Carnatus]

Download: 6000kbps

Upload: 700kbps

ISP: Telenor

Price: 499NOK/month

Connection type: adsl

Place: Figgjo, Sandnes - in Rogaland.

 

Soon I'll have:

 

Download: 6000kbps

Upload: 6000kbps

ISP: Lyse

Price: 299NOK/month (the entire building i live in is in on some deal, so we get it "cheap")

Connection type: Fibre

Place: Same place.

[Limstift]

Got internet from Lyse Tele AS (optical-fibre cable), 20mbit in and 10mbit out, and it costs 699 NOK/month.

[nistemann]

Download: 20.000

Upload: 1.200

ISP: Nextgentel (NGT)

Price: 499

Connection type: ADSL 2+

Place: Oslo

[RostislaV]

as I said - I`m very surprised and glad for you all - that the real

 

Fast Net - 20 Mb for the 40-60 $ in month you have there.

 

Here in Odessa - 1 Mb costs about 30 $ (+/- - it changes from rayon to rayon, from prov to prov, etc) - and Odessa has the lead position on the Net-Market in Ukraine in sense of the price.

 

Shortly saying - the cheapest Net in Ukraine is in Odessa, + in north part of this town where I live.

 

But! If you have such Fast Net - I have some importatn question about this!

 

But I don`t know how you will be reacting on my question ...

Endret 6. februar 2007 av RostislaV

[magio]

Whats the question?

[RostislaV]

Whats the question?

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If you have such Fast Net - so WHAT FOR this high-speed ? - if you don`t use the trekkers/hubs/FTPs and others file-exchange protocols and programmes

 

maybe I`m wrong - but as I know there are a lot problems to you with using these technologies!

 

even in such idiotical state in this case as the USA - there are less problems that you have in Norway!

 

and for example - the Sweden - in this case - seems like Free Field for this kind of Net Activity!

 

I`m very interesting ... maybe I`m wrong - then do correct me.

 

[magio]

Most people that have this kind of connection use it for downloading stuff (legal of course ). I don't want to wait over 2 hours for things when I can have it in 40 minutes, and its not too expensive..

 

Torrents, FTPs etc are legal, its just the software/mp3s/etc that may be illegal. You need hard evidence to convict someone for filesharing in Norway, and its not so easy today.

The people that have been "caught" so far are people using DC++ where you can look up what they share, username, IP, you cant do that with other technologies and get the same evidence. But its only the people running the "hubs" that are caught as far as I know.

Endret 6. februar 2007 av magio

[RostislaV]

Most people that have this kind of connection use it for downloading stuff (legal of course ). I don't want to wait over 2 hours for things when I can have it in 40 minutes, and its not too expensive..

 

Torrents, FTPs etc are legal, its just the software that may be illegal. You need hard evidence to convict someone for filesharing in Norway, and its not so easy today.

The people that have been "caught" so far are people using DC++ where you can look up what they share, username, IP, you cant do that with other technologies and get the same evidence.

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very interesting answear and long-waited for me ...

 

but - this theme is not fully opened for me - can we discuss this in special theme which will be dedicated to this question?

 

and wouldn`t be the Forum Administration against this?

 

Why I`m asking?

 

This makes me think so - when I found in searh-machine www.kvasir.no the theme from this forum when I gave the reqest to machine the word - "torrent".

 

That theme was locked with the words that is illegal and so on ...

 

Now I`m trying to find that theme and can`t.

Endret 6. februar 2007 av RostislaV

[Lars Dongeri Oppholdsnes]

I would not say its much difference (if any?) between Norway and Sweden regarding laws and reaction to filesharing activities. Very few has been fined yet.

 

20Mbit does not even cost the double of a 1Mbit connection, and with a faster internet connection you can stream and download e.g. TV and videoclips with no abruptions.

 

Access to the web is getting cheaper and faster all the time. Only few years ago we paid more for 700kbs than we do for 20Mbit today.

 

EDIT: You can usually discuss P2P and how to tune it, but it is not 'popular' to link to sites where illegal material are shared.

Endret 6. februar 2007 av la7dfa-com

[RostislaV]

I would not say its much difference (if any?) between Norway and Sweden regarding laws and reaction to filesharing activities.  Very few has been fined yet.

 

yeah, possibly - but the fact is that - as close these states each other - as they have phenomenal diffirence - and discussion for this question I want put in special theme here at this forum.

 

So - for now a couple words - in Sweden there is more freedom of speech, thoughts, words - and fighting for free access to Net-Resources!

 

That`s the fact.

 

But this is political discussion - therefore better don`t start it here.

 

20Mbit does not even cost the double of a 1Mbit connection, and with a faster internet connection you can stream and download e.g. TV and videoclips with no abruptions.

 

only for videos? it`s such ... well a small useness from such Fast Net!

 

Access to the web is getting cheaper and faster all the time.  Only few years ago we paid more for 700kbs than we do for 20Mbit today.

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yeah, that`s good!

and this is world`s practica ...

 

simply in one states that process is very slow but in others the process is very fast ...

 

it`s a life ...

Endret 6. februar 2007 av RostislaV

[Henrik C]

Fast Net - 20 Mb for the 40-60 $ in month you have there.

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Actually, the 20/10 Mbit from Lyse is a little over 100$, not 60$.

 

699.00 NOK = 112.185 USD

http://xe.com/ucc

[RostislaV]

Fast Net - 20 Mb for the 40-60 $ in month you have there.

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Actually, the 20/10 Mbit from Lyse is a little over 100$, not 60$.

 

699.00 NOK = 112.185 USD

http://xe.com/ucc

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yeah, some mistake ...

 

simply I have in my mind all the time the constanty number the "8" NOK for 1 $ ...

 

 

if the 20 Mb costs 112.185 USD - that`s bad ...

 

Must costs not more than 50 $

is it not so ?

Endret 7. februar 2007 av RostislaV