Nye forumlov/nettetikett: Bruk av [skjul]/[spoil

[Vindstille]

Har lenge irritert meg av poster med lange bokser med quoted tekst og html-, php-, csskode som ikke er lagt inn i skjul. Er det mulig å legge til ett nytt avsnitt i Retningslinjene (evt. Nettikette) som oppfordrer folk til å skjule slike ting med en skjul?

 

EDIT: spoiler endret til skjul

Endret 17. januar 2007 av JonT

[kopperhead]

Tja men da burde det stå til nybegynnere hvordan en bruker og gjør det

Eller står det allerede

[TSP]

Dette skal ikke [spoiler ] brukes til men [ skjul]

 

Jeg støtter forslaget. Men ikke med absolutt all kode, om koden ikke er veldig lang er det heller ikke nødvendig.

Endret 17. januar 2007 av The Strategy-player

[Vindstille]

Dette skal ikke [spoiler ] brukes til men [ skjul]

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Begge kan brukes

Klikk for å se/fjerne spoilerteksten nedenfor

Skult tekst

[TSP]

Spoilere skal brukes til å hindre folk i å få ting avslørt. Skjul skal brukes til å skjule tekst. I spoilere står det noe "hemmelig", mens skjul er for alle og man skal ikke trenge være bekymret for at her får jeg vite hva som skjer i sesong 6 av 24, for det er spoilere til.

[Vindstille]

Men ikke med absolutt all kode, om koden ikke er veldig lang er det heller ikke nødvendig.

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Enig i det. Det var derfor jeg skrev "lange blokker med kode"

 

Spoilere skal brukes til å hindre folk i å få ting avslørt. Skjul skal brukes til å skjule tekst. I spoilere står det noe "hemmelig", mens  skjul er for alle og man skal ikke trenge være bekymret for at her får jeg vite hva som skjer i sesong 6 av 24, for det er spoilere til.

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Er er forskjellen egentlig? At spoiler ikke pre-laster bilder ol. før spoileren blir åpnet?

[LarsP]

Er er forskjellen egentlig? At spoiler ikke pre-laster bilder ol. før spoileren blir åpnet?

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Er nok bare The Strategy-player som leker flisespikkerhore.

[Ueland]

Det er ingen teknisk forskjell på de 2, forruten betegnelsen/navnene på de.

[Vod kaNockers]

Så hvis jeg skal svare på et lang t innleg men vil ha den med så skal jeg ta og gjøre sån? (første gang jeg prøver dete her

 

Klikk for å se/fjerne innholdet nedenfor

Er er forskjellen egentlig? At spoiler ikke pre-laster bilder ol. før spoileren blir åpnet?

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Er nok bare The Strategy-player som leker flisespikkerhore.

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[Legion]

det må da være en smal sak å implementere en sjekk som skjuler en quote på x linjer eller x dybde?

evt. slå hardere ned på unødvendig quoting og dyyyype quotes (eller i tillegg for den saks skyld)

[TSP]

Er er forskjellen egentlig? At spoiler ikke pre-laster bilder ol. før spoileren blir åpnet?

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Er nok bare The Strategy-player som leker flisespikkerhore.

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Og vitsen med å si det var? Jeg er da ikke noe flisespikkerhore bare fordi jeg informerer om hvordan forskjellen på hvordan de skal brukes er.

 

Det er ingen teknisk forskjell på de 2, forruten betegnelsen/navnene på de.

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Jo, men det er jo en forskjell i hvordan de skal brukes. Mens spoilere skal skjule "hemmeligheter" skal skjul kun brukes til å skjule (komprimere) tekst, man skal ikke risikere noe ved å trykke der. Denne forskjellen må jo eksistere, hvis ikke er det jo ikke noe vits i å ha to forskjellige funksjoner som gjør det samme. Det var jo derfor "skjul" ble innført og det var delvis på grunn av et av mine ønsker.

[Vindstille]

Så hvis jeg skal svare på et lang t innleg men vil ha den med så skal jeg ta og gjøre sån? (første gang jeg prøver dete her

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Nei, vis det er ett langt innlegg skal du bruke:

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(Alstå med link til innlegget)

Men vis det er et innlegg som ble skrevet for mange sider siden kan du selfølgelig bruke

Klikk for å se/fjerne innholdet nedenfor

 

Er det mange quoter skal du fjerne de første sånn at det bare går 1-2 nivåer oppover.

[Dotten]

Om man bruker skjul til å skjule spoilere så er ikke det farlig. Skjønner godt at folk benytter skjul fremfor spoiler-tags siden den er lagt til i "hurtigmenyen".

 

Skjul er fint å bruke når det er store bilder, mye tekst man siterer osv.

 

Eksempelvis, her er et bilde av Optimus Prime;

 

Klikk for å se/fjerne innholdet nedenfor

 

Her er grunnen USA oppgir for at de gikk inn i Irak:

 

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Joint Resolution

 

 

 

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against

Iraq. <<NOTE: Oct. 16, 2002 - [H.J. Res. 114]>>

 

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and

illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition

of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the

national security of the United States and enforce United Nations

Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

 

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a

United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq

unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear,

biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver

and develop them, and to end its support for international

terrorism;

 

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States

intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that

Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale

biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear

weapons development program that was much closer to producing a

nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

 

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire,

attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify

and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and

development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal

of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

 

Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that

Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened

vital United States interests and international peace and security,

declared Iraq to be in ``material and unacceptable breach of its

international obligations'' and urged the President ``to take

appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant

laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its

international obligations'';

 

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of

the United States and international peace and security in the

Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach

of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing

to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons

capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and

supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

 

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations

Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its

civilian population thereby threatening international peace

 

[[Page 116 STAT. 1499]]

 

and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or

account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq,

including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property

wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

 

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and

willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations

and its own people;

 

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing

hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States,

including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush

and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and

Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the

United Nations Security Council;

 

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for

attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including

the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in

Iraq;

 

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist

organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and

safety of United States citizens;

 

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001,

underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of

weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist

organizations;

 

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of

mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either

employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United

States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international

terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that

would result to the United States and its citizens from such an

attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend

itself;

 

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes

the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security

Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions

and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten

international peace and security, including the development of

weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United

Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security

Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population

in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688

(1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations

in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution

949 (1994);

 

Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq

Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President

``to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations

Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve

implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664,

665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677'';

 

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it

``supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of

United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent

with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against

 

[[Page 116 STAT. 1500]]

 

Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),'' that Iraq's repression of its

civilian population violates United Nations Security Council

Resolution 688 and ``constitutes a continuing threat to the peace,

security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,'' and that

Congress, ``supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the

goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688'';

 

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed

the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United

States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi

regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to

replace that regime;

 

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United

States to ``work with the United Nations Security Council to meet

our common challenge'' posed by Iraq and to ``work for the necessary

resolutions,'' while also making clear that ``the Security Council

resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and

security will be met, or action will be unavoidable'';

 

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on

terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist

groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction

in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and

other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it

is in the national security interests of the United States and in

furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations

Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use

of force if necessary;

 

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on

terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested

by the President to take the necessary actions against international

terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations,

organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or

aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or

harbored such persons or organizations;

 

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take

all appropriate actions against international terrorists and

terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or

persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist

attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such

persons or organizations;

 

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take

action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism

against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint

resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law

107-40); and

 

Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States to

restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region:

Now, therefore, be it

 

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United

States of America in Congress <<NOTE: Authorization for Use of Military

Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002. 50 USC 1541 note.>> assembled,

 

Her er en stor spoiler for hva som kommer til å skje i tv-serien Heroes (ja det er en reell spoiler, så ikke klikk dere inn Heroes folk)

 

Klikk for å se/fjerne spoilerteksten nedenfor

En av heltene som var med i starten av episode 1 vil dø

 

Om noen bruker skjul fremfor spoiler på sistnevnte eksempel så bryr jeg meg katta så lenge det kommer frem av innlegget at det er en spoiler.

 

Forslaget om å ta det med i retningslinjene er ikke dum og blir nok vurdert av forumstyret