George W Bush tråden!

[LooneyTune]

Jeg tror alle her på forumet vet hvem George W. Bush er, så jeg legger ikke til noen lang intro om hvem Bush er. Men burde virkelig Bush være president? Noen mener han gjør en flott jobb, andre mener han er mentalt syk... Her i denne tråden kan du prate om tykt og tynt angående Bush, kom med dine meninger og syn. Men hold dere innenfor forumet's regler. Også vil jeg minne om at poster som "Bush er dum!" vil bli slettet, dette er fordi at når du kommer med en påstand bør du og ha en begrunnelse. Og hold dere til topic!

 

Jeg kan starte denne posten med en liste over 50 dumme bush-sitater:

 

50. "I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." —at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

 

49. "We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." —Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001

 

48. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' —Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

 

47. "We both use Colgate toothpaste." —after a reporter asked what he had in common with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Camp David, Md., Feb. 23, 2001

 

46. "Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a — you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004 (Watch video)

 

45. "I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves." —Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003

 

44. "I'm the commander — see, I don't need to explain — I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." —as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War

 

43. "I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." —Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001

 

42. "The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." —Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

 

41. "I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America. It's pretty darn strong. I mean, the people see a better future." —Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004

 

40. "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." —discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson, as quoted by Robertson

 

39. "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video)

 

38. "Haven't we already given money to rich people? Why are we going to do it again?" —to economic advisers discussing a second round of tax cuts, as quoted by former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil, Washington, D.C., Nov. 26, 2002

 

37. "We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." —Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002

 

36. "After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week — we will have an all-volunteer army!" —Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004 (Watch video)

 

35. "Do you have blacks, too?" —to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001

 

34. "This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." —as quoted by the New York Daily News, April 23, 2002

 

33. "I got to know Ken Lay when he was head of the — what they call the Governor's Business Council in Texas. He was a supporter of Ann Richards in my run in 1994. And she had named him the head of the Governor's Business Council. And I decided to leave him in place, just for the sake of continuity. And that's when I first got to know Ken and worked with Ken." —attempting to distance himself from his biggest political patron, Enron Chairman Ken Lay, whom he nicknamed "Kenny Boy," Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2002

 

32. "It is white." —after being asked by a child in Britain what the White House was like, July 19, 2001

 

31. "I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." —at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001

 

30. "For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." —Philadelphia, Penn., May 14, 2001

 

29. "I don't know why you're talking about Sweden. They're the neutral one. They don't have an army." —during a Dec. 2002 Oval Office meeting with Rep. Tom Lantos, as reported by the New York Times

 

28. "You forgot Poland." —to Sen. John Kerry during the first presidential debate, after Kerry failed to mention Poland's contributions to the Iraq war coalition, Miami, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004

 

27. "I'm the master of low expectations." —aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003

 

26. "I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." —aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003

 

25. "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe — I believe what I believe is right." —Rome, Italy, July 22, 2001

 

24. "We need to counter the shockwave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates." —Washington, D.C. Oct. 4, 2001

 

23. "People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you." —Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

 

22. "I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it…I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet….I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't — you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one." —President George W. Bush, after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004

 

21. "The really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes anyway." —explaining why high taxes on the rich are a failed strategy, Annandale, Va., Aug. 9, 2004

 

20. "My plan reduces the national debt, and fast. So fast, in fact, that economists worry that we're going to run out of debt to retire." —radio address, Feb. 24, 2001

 

19. "You know, when I was one time campaigning in Chicago, a reporter said, 'Would you ever have a deficit?' I said, 'I can't imagine it, but there would be one if we had a war, or a national emergency, or a recession.' Never did I dream we'd get the trifecta." —Houston, Texas, June 14, 2002 (There is no evidence Bush ever made any such statement, despite recounting the trifecta line repeatedly in 2002. A search by the Washington Post revealed that the three caveats were brought up before the 2000 campaign — by Al Gore.)

 

18. "See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." —Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003

 

17. "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." —State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false

 

16. "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard." —repeating the phrases "hard work," "working hard," "hard choices," and other "hard"-based verbiage 22 times in his first debate with Sen. John Kerry

 

15. "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." —Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001

 

14. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." —Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

 

13. "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." —summing up his first year in office, three months after the 9/11 attacks, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001

 

12. "I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency." —interview with "Runners World," Aug. 2002

 

11. "Can we win? I don't think you can win it." —after being asked whether the war on terror was winnable, "Today" show interview, Aug. 30, 2004

 

10. "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." —Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002

 

9. "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." —to a group of Amish he met with privately, July 9, 2004

 

8. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." —speaking underneath a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003

 

7. “We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories … And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." —Washington, D.C., May 30, 2003

 

6. "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!" —President George W. Bush, joking about his administration's failure to find WMDs in Iraq as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 24, 2004

 

5. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." —Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000

 

4. "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video)

 

3. "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video)

 

2. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video)

1. "My answer is bring them on." —on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

 

Sitatene er hentet fra http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushdumbquotes.htm

 

 

Endret 15. januar 2007 av LooneyTune

[Dimanche]

Jeg starter med å si at jeg personlig ikke liker Bush.

 

Klikk for å se/fjerne innholdet nedenfor

Tips: Mods liker ikke at en skriver "Den store" foran en tråd. Omformuler til et spm.

Endret 15. januar 2007 av Dimanche

[-Turin_Turambar-]

At Bush er president viser to morsomme ting med USA,

1 Har man nok penger og/eller venner kan hvem som helst komme langt.

2 Noe er alvorlig feil med demokratiet, siden en slik idiot kan komme så langt.

 

Hva tenkte velgerne på? Fyren er jo fullstendig udugelig, klarer ikke engang å snakke sammenhengende, i hvert fall gjorde han ikke det til å begynne med.

[LooneyTune]

Ja, fyren har sagt mye dumt (bare se på bush-sitatene). Kan av og til lure på om han er ved sine fulle fem.

[JBlack]

Når er fyr har deltatt i så mange debatter skal det utrolig mye til at man ikke klarer å finne situasjoner der han stokker litt på ordene, eller det som sier virker dumt tatt ut av sammenhengen.

 

Det som virkelig er dumt er at noen bruker slike lister seriøst for å få bekreftet sin mening om Bush.

[-Turin_Turambar-]

Det er jo ikke til å stikke under en stol at av alle statsledere jeg noensinne har sett er han den desidert minst velartikulerte.

[JBlack]

Det er jo ikke til å stikke under en stol at av alle statsledere jeg noensinne har sett er han den desidert minst velartikulerte.

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Det er heller ikke til å stikke under en stol at en slik personlig subjektiv mening om dette er helt verdiløs.

 

 

Jeg skulle ønske folk kunne være litt mer kritiske til både seg selv og ting man leser...

Endret 15. januar 2007 av JBlack

[LooneyTune]

Men det at Bush ikke er så flink å snakke er vel ikke det største problemet, det folk reagerer på er vel at han er en "krigs-hisser". Selv om USA alltid har hatt en tendens til å være med i krig, her er en liste over land USA har bombet siden 2. verdenskrig.

[Kubin]

Av og til kan man få inntrykk av at folkene som skriver talene til Bush er noen store ironikere.

 

Her er et lite eksempel, der det virker som de har det moro med en viss sentens fra boka "1984", nemlig "He who controls the present, controls the past."

 

 

"Mission accomplished forgotten" :

 

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[-Turin_Turambar-]

Det som også er skremmende er den tydelige innflytelsen av religion på politikken, i et land som delvis ble grunnlagt på basis av blant annet religionsfrihet, og med seperasjon av kirke og stat.

[LooneyTune]

Ja, Bush har jo gått så lang som å si at det er Guds vilje osv...

[helvete83]

ingen som bryr seg om hva noen få stakarslige bønder fra nord mener.!!

 

men jeg personlig syns bush gjør en meget bra jobb..

han har baller....

utrydd muslimene før det er for sent...

[Kubin]

utrydd muslimene før det er for sent...

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Bjørn Ulvaeus (ex ABBA) går knallhardt ut mot islam/islamistene i Expressen.

 

Men i motsetning til visse andre har Ulvaeus en fungerende hjerne. Han avslutter :

 

"Kanske kan också västvärlden stå någorlunda enig mot islamisterna när USA äntligen får en ny president. För att någon form av enighet ska uppnås krävs att banden (båndene) över Atlanten stärks. Kanske kan Bush presidentperiod, när den förpassas till det förgångna, komma att ses som en anomali och USA:s ledarskap återtas. Gud give att så blir fallet."

 

BJÖRN ULVAEUS

 

http://expressen.se/index.jsp?a=689336

 

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""America's very existence is in danger. Our nation is bankrupt, we are bogged down in a war we have not figured out how to win, and we are in danger of having our military obliterated by Iran. George Bush is fiddling-earnestly but incompetently-while America burns." These are the words of Howard Bloom, one of America's great scholars and a student of the Iranian situation in particular."

 

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070104/nyth173.html?.v=62

 

 

"HOW TO LOSE AN ARMY

Plow deep into Iraq and dare Iran to strike.

 

by William S. Lind

 

<snip> . . .The Iranians have said that this time they have 140,000 American hostages, in the form of U.S. troops in Iraq. If either Israel or the U.S. attacks Iran, we could lose an army.

 

How could such a thing happen? The danger springs from the fact that almost all the supplies our forces in Iraq use, including vital fuel for their vehicles, comes over one supply line, which runs toward the south and the port in Kuwait. If that line were cut, our forces might not have enough fuel to get out of Iraq. American armies are enormously fuel-thirsty."

 

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2007/01/1733713.php

[Gjest Bruker-95147]

Når er fyr har deltatt i så mange debatter skal det utrolig mye til at man ikke klarer å finne situasjoner der han stokker litt på ordene, eller det som sier virker dumt tatt ut av sammenhengen.

 

Det som virkelig er dumt er at noen bruker slike lister seriøst for å få bekreftet sin mening om Bush.

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Så hvorfor stikker nettopp han seg ut på toppen av slike "lister"? Han er vel ikke den eneste politiker/medieperson som er i søkelyset, eller??

 

Det som er like dumt er noen som prøver og motbevise dumskapen på akkurat det samme grunnlaget.

[Thend]

ingen som bryr seg om hva noen få stakarslige bønder fra nord mener.!!

 

men jeg personlig syns bush gjør en meget bra jobb..

han har baller....

utrydd muslimene før det er for sent...

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Ja, da vil jo alt bli så meget bedre.

[Gjest Bruker-95147]

Feil Han er ikke en sympatør den uvitende tosken, men en sympatisør

[Zethyr]

Det blir litt merkelig å ha en egen GWBush-tråd, særlig i et land som Norge der Bush-bashing er en folkesport frembrakt av mediene. Jeg vil tro at denne tråden vil bli stengt innen ikke så lenge, og vi har jo allerede sett en del "glimrende kloke og veloverveide" uttalelser komme til spille. Jeg frykter det værste, at det ikke forblir noen diskusjon med en ren telletråd; la oss prøve å unngå det.

 

Jeg har ikke så mange utpregede meninger om GWBush, men jeg kan garantere at om man plukker tilfeldige personer fra Norges styre i dette øyeblikk og setter dem i samme posisjon som Bush så vil det trille inn med flauser og tabber mye raskere enn det har gjort så langt med hr Bush selv.

[L4r5]

med tanke på hans (G.W.B.) seneste(?) tale til senatet har jeg ett spørsmål... vil han nå invadere syria? Han mente jo at de har støttet "insurgens" i Irak (i følge ham). Syria har jo ikke hatt diplomatiske forbindelser med Irak på over tjue år. At de støttet det DE mener er en legitim kamp mot invaderende styrker er jo egentlig forståelig. Når det er sagt så har jo norge hatt diplomatiske forbindelser med Irak mer enn det Syria har hatt. Men vi er jo "venner" med USA. Snakk om forskjellsbehandling... Så sent som slutten av 80-tallet bidro jo USA med opplæring av irakiske etteretningsoffiserer med tanke på avhørsteknikker (les: opplæring i tortur). Synes han bør feie for egen dør før han fordømmer andre nasjoner. USA har vel verdensrekord mtp. å blande seg inn i andre lands interne stridigheter...

 

Edit: Videre finner jeg retorikken han bruker i taler skremmende likt det en viss herre med bart brukte i Tyskland på tredvetallet...

Endret 15. januar 2007 av L4r5

[person]

3 go'filmer om bush fra youtube:

 

Olbermann: the beginning of the end of America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs

Olbermann takes Bush on for the "Military Commissions Act" and the death of Habeas Corpus.

"And if you somehow think Habeas Corpus has not been suspended for American citizens but only for everybody else, ask yourself this: If you are pulled off the street tomorrow, and they call you an alien or an undocumented immigrant or an "unlawful enemy combatant" — exactly how are you going to convince them to give you a court hearing to prove you are not? Do you think this Attorney General is going to help you?

This President now has his blank check.

He lied to get it.

He lied as he received it.

Is there any reason to even hope, he has not lied about how he intends to use it, nor who he intends to use it against?"

 

Is Bush an "Idiot"?

Is the President of the United States, George W. Bush, an idiot? Scarborough Country asks the forbidden question. They look at his inability to speak correctly, not at his inability to lead correctly, however. Of course the real question is, is the Republican Party full of idiots because they nominated the sucker, and continue to blindly follow his crap? Is the US full of idiots, because they elected the sucker and have not begun demanding better until recently?

 

Stay the Course?

The Democratic National Committee's web ad shows that two weeks before Election Day, the Bush Administration and Republicans in Congress have attempted to change their tune on their failed "Stay the Course" strategy.

 

Freedom

George W. according to George Michael.

[Eggmelk]

jess, då va denna tråden oppe

Trenge ein plass å uttrykka politiske meiningar og følelsar

Way on !