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To Kennedy-drap oppklart?

 

1 ) Drapet på John F.Kennedy.

 

Nå vet vi at Emory Roberts var innblandet? :

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DA0FxvJQn4 ( 6 min )

 

"They got him. They got him."

 

- Emory Roberts. ( Samme mann )

 

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2 )

 

Drap to. Robert Kennedy :

 

Nå vet vi at David Sanchez Morales og George Joannides var involvert ?

 

"New video and photographic evidence that puts three senior CIA operatives at the scene of Robert Kennedy's assassination has been brought to light.

 

The evidence was shown in a report by Shane O'Sullivan, broadcast on BBC Newsnight.

It reveals that the operatives and four unidentified associates were at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles in the moments before and after the shooting on 5 June, 1968.

 

The CIA had no domestic jurisdiction and some of the officers were based in South-East Asia at the time, with no reason to be in Los Angeles.

 

(...)

 

Three of these men have been positively identified as senior officers who worked together in 1963 at JMWAVE, the CIA's Miami base for its Secret War on Castro.

 

David Morales was Chief of Operations and once told friends:

 

"I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch ( JFK ) and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard ( RFK )."

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/6169006.stm

 

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Interessant. Kennedy-drapene og drapet på Martin Luther King ligger som en verkebyll i det amerikanske samfunnet. Selv om de offisiellt er oppklart.. (og godtatt av den delen av befolkninga som tror på alt det myndighetene sier om sakene)

 

Lurer på hvor lenge et samfunn basert på offisielle løgner kan overleve :hmm:

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Hvis jeg skal svelge noe rått, så er det heller noe myndighetene sier enn noe konspirasjonsteorister sier. Det har ingenting å si hvem som har rett, når begge har bevis på hver sin side; det har bare med hvem jeg vil assosieres med.

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Og da velger du den USAske regjeringen? Det er viktig å huske at konspirasjonsteorier ofte har en bakgrunn, spørsmålet er størrelsesforholdet mellom bakgrunnen og teorien. Sjekk watergate.

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at konspirasjonsteorier som regel er tatt rett ut av løse luften, og oppstår ved at folk forkaster fakta med vilje.

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Vel, i dette tilfellet er det altså "konspirasjonsteoretikerne" som "holder kartet riktig vei". ( Jmfr. link to poster over. )

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Det er viktig å huske at konspirasjonsteorier ofte har en bakgrunn

Nei. Det er viktig å huske på at konspirasjonsteorier som regel er tatt rett ut av løse luften, og oppstår ved at folk forkaster fakta med vilje.

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At perifere fakta forkastes er én ting. Men jeg sier at alle har et grunnlag. Det er vanskelig å finne opp røyk uten ild.

Klart ting blir blåst ut av proporsjoner av konspirasjonsteoretikere.

Ta area 51 f.eks. Men der er og en bakgrunn, nemlig en styrt av et merkelig utseende fartøy. Om det faktisk var en værballong kan være så, men styrten som teoriene baseres på er fortsatt reell.

Dermed har teoriene en bakgrunn/grunnlag, akkurat som jeg sa.

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  • 5 måneder senere...

E. Howard Hunt er mest kjent som innbruddstyv på oppdrag fra Nixon. ( Watergate-skandalen )

 

Nå skal han på dødsleiet ha fortalt at han i sin tid ble spurt om å delta i Kennedydrapet :

 

"Tidligere CIA-agent sier i et nylig offentliggjort opptak at han ble invitert til å delta i komplottet for å drepe president John F. Kennedy.

(...)

I opptaket hevder Hunt at daværende visepresident Lyndon B. Johnson var involvert i planleggingen av attentatet. Han påstår at Johnson var besatt av å bli president."

 

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article1765106.ece

 

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"The Most Revealing Wink Of The 20th Century: Congressman Albert Thomas winks back at a quickly-smiling LBJ as he is being sworn in to be the next President of the United States on Air Force One while the grief-stricken Jackie Kennedy stands next to him."

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Det hører med til historien at "History Channel" laget en dokumentar i 2003, som pekte direkte mot Lyndon Johnson :

 

"The Men Who Killed Kennedy is a video documentary series by Nigel Turner that originally aired in 1988 in England with two one-hour segments about the John F. Kennedy assassination. The United States corporation, Arts & Entertainment Company, purchased the rights to the original two segments. Three one-hour segments were added in 1991. A sixth segment was added in 1995. Finally, three additional hourly segments were added by the History Channel in November 2003.

 

The ninth segment, titled "The Guilty Men", directly implicated Lyndon B. Johnson. Within days, Johnson's widow, Lady Bird Johnson, more of his surviving associates, ex-President Jimmy Carter, and the lone, living Warren Commission commissioner and ex-President Gerald R. Ford immediately complained to the History Channel. They subsequently threatened legal action against Arts & Entertainment Company, owner of the History Channel. "The Guilty Men" segment was completely withdrawn by the History Channel."

 

http://www.archive.org/details/themenwhoki...kennedypart7of9

 

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På linken er det mulighet for å se del 7 av serien. Et absolutt "must".

 

Det er forsåvidt hele serien. Del 1 her :

 

part 1 The Men Who Killed Kennedy

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6198197422242167290

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  • 1 måned senere...

Drapet på Robert F. Kennedy ( Broren ) :

 

"Discovery Times Channel Reveals Previously Unknown Audio of Robert Kennedy's Death in CONSPIRACY TEST: THE RFK ASSASSINATION.

Secret recording revealed for the first time sheds light on Kennedy's murder. Never-before-broadcast offers new evidence of a second gunman.

 

(...)

Key to the theory of a second shooter is an audiotape recorded by a freelance journalist at the scene that went unnoticed in an archive for decades. It is the only known recording in the world on which the gunshots can clearly be heard. CONSPIRACY TEST: THE RFK ASSASSINATION presents two tests of the recording. The first by a team of forensic audio specialists who examine a researcher's findings that suggests that the number of shots heard may have exceeded the maximum eight rounds fired by Sirhan's gun. The second test, by a firearms expert who determines if some of the shots on the recording exceed the maximum firing rate of Sirhan's 22-caliber Cadet model Iver Johnson revolver and done in such rapid succession as to question the presence of a second gunman. The shocking results may shed new light on the events of Kennedy's assassination."

 

http://sev.prnewswire.com/television/20070604/NEM116040...

 

"The "Second Gun" by Ted Charach is an incredible movie that points the blame to the real RFK assassin...Eugene Thane Cesar. Cesar was the security guard that was directly behind RFK at the time of the shooting. A witness saw Cesar draw his gun and fire. The witness was a reporter who immediately reported this to the television station he worked for. Cesar also worked at Lockheed and had right wing leanings and voted for George Wallace in 1968. He was on record about hating the Kennedys. Yet this man was assigned as a security guard to "protect" RFK. Thomas Naguchi, the L.A. coroner said that all 3 wounds to RFK, including the fatal head shot came from behind and to the right of the Senator. That was precisely where Cesar was. The fatal head wound was fired from a distance of 1-3 inches away from Kennedy's head. Sirhan never got closer than 3-6 feet away from RFK and was also always in front of Kennedy."

 

http://jfkmurdersolved.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=550

 

 

Coming soon. The entire film available for download.

"The Second Gun Expose" coming soon for download.

 

http://www.secondgun.com/newslband.html

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"CIA operative Antonio Veciana testified regarding his case officer Maurice Bishop. The sketch of Bishop was based on Veciana's recollections of the appearance of the man meeting with Oswald. Antonio Veciana was shot in the head after testifying, but survived."

 

( 3 min )

 

"Commentary by Deputy Sheriff Roger D. Craig. His presence is shown on the film.

 

The official story is that it was a misconception that the rifle found was a Mauser 7.65 german rifle.(*) Mr. Craig insists it was a Mauser. As does Mr. Weitzman."

 

(4 min )

 

(*) Våpenet som kunne knyttes til Oswald var en italienskprodusert "Manlicher Carcano".

 

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( Mer om Sheriff Roger Craig :

 

http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=two+men+in+dallas )

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"Tre kuler ble avfyrt mot USAs president John. F. Kennedy i Dallas den 22. november 1963. To av dem traff og drepte ham.

 

Italienske våpeneksperter hevder nå å ha bevist at Lee Harvey Oswald ikke kunne ha avfyrt alle tre skuddene.

 

 

(...)

 

- Ikke nok tid

 

Ekspertene skal ha gjennomført tester som viser at det er umulig, selv for en topptrent skarpskytter, å avfyre tre skudd med den typen rifle brukt av Oswald på mindre enn 19 sekunder.

 

Skuddene som traff Kennedy ble avfyrt i løpet av 7 sekunder.

 

Testene skal ha blitt kontrollert av den italienske hæren."

 

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article1864189.ece

 

 

Det blir vel færre og færre som det går ann å innbille at en kule som knuste ribbeinet og håndleddet til Connally skulle kunne komme fra det uten spor av "striation marks" :

 

"The Warren Commission's "single bullet," according to all documentation:

 

* had no thread striations (fine lines etched onto a copper encased bullet tip and/or bullet side casing by clothing threads when the bullet first penetrates clothing threads),

 

* was marked with no blood,

 

* was marked with no human tissue,

 

* had no pieces of clothing attached,

 

* had lost only 1.5 % of its original average weight

 

(...)

 

Several of the exact same type 6.5 millimeter test bullets were test-fired by the Warren Commission investigators. The only test bullet that most matched the slight side flattening and nearly pristine, still rounded impact tip of CE399 was a bullet that had only been fired into a long tube containing a thick layer of cotton. (later tests show that such bullets survive intact when fired into solid wood and multiple layers of skin and ballistic gel, as well-- see Discovery Channel reference below)."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_bullet_theory

 

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Ekspertene skal ha gjennomført tester som viser at det er umulig, selv for en topptrent skarpskytter, å avfyre tre skudd med den typen rifle brukt av Oswald på mindre enn 19 sekunder.

 

Skuddene som traff Kennedy ble avfyrt i løpet av 7 sekunder.

 

Testene skal ha blitt kontrollert av den italienske hæren."

 

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article1864189.ece

 

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Hvorfor har det tatt 44 år før noen fant ut at de skulle prøveskyte tilsvarende rifle? (Carcano M91/38 bolt-action rifle)

 

Skulle tro at det ville være "standard" prosedyre i en slik spesiell sak. :hmm:

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Hvorfor har det tatt 44 år før noen fant ut at de skulle prøveskyte tilsvarende rifle? (Carcano M91/38 bolt-action rifle)

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Ifølge enkelte ble det utprøvd for lenge siden, men vi fikk ikke høre om det :

 

"Retired Gunnery Sergeant Hathcock (...) has been described as the most famous American military sniper in history.

 

(...) Hathcock :

 

"Let me tell you what we did at Quantico. We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did." "

 

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/the_critics/g..._poor_shot.html

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