Ye Olde Pub (The English Pub)

[MrLee]

So the point of this thread is to develop one's English skills? With Internet at home and work being mostly in English, I think I I write more English than Norwegian. Well that's if I didn't post so much here Perhaps that will change now though.

 

Question.

 

Do you write US or UK English? If so, do you make a conscious choice to use either or is it a simple matter of "I learned X first"? Or do you not make a distinction and blend the two?

[Drillo]

Question.

 

Do you write US or UK English? If so, do you make a conscious choice to use either or is it a simple matter of "I learned X first"? Or do you not make a distinction and blend the two?

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I want to write UK English. I also try not to sound too wannabe-American when talking English. However, I'm exposed to far more US English than UK English.

 

I don't know all the differences between US and UK English. Subway/tube, Color/colour, sidewalk/pavement...That's about it. Are there many big differences?

 

Question: The abbreviation eg. is often used in English. I know that it means the same as "for example" , but what exactly is it short for, and how is it pronounced?

Endret 15. april 2007 av Drillo

[Minus]

I grew up with "color" being a terrible word to write, so I guess I write UK English.

Edit: e.g is Latin and means exampli gratia.

Endret 15. april 2007 av KristianG

[Drillo]

I grew up with "color" being a terrible word to write, so I guess I write UK English.

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It seems totally wrong to me when it's written that way. Fuck AE

[MrLee]

Question.

 

Do you write US or UK English? If so, do you make a conscious choice to use either or is it a simple matter of "I learned X first"? Or do you not make a distinction and blend the two?

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I want to write UK English. I also try not to sound too wannabe-American when talking English. However, I'm exposed to far more US English than UK English.

 

I don't know all the differences between US and UK English. Subway/tube, Color/colour, sidewalk/pavement...That's about it. Are there many big differences?

 

Question: The abbreviation eg. is often used in English. I know that it means the same as "for example" , but what exactly is it short for, and how is it pronounced?

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E.g. is short for the Latin "exempli gratia" which means for example.

 

I try to write UK English as well, but the American influence is strong in todays society, there is no doubt about that.

[Minus]

Yes, to me too. I guess it's because we didn't have any choice when I attended to primary school, and didn't know that I could choose to write either 'color' or 'colour' before my last year in comprehensive school. So I think that most of my English words are UK-ish.

 

And one more of the differences you wanted, Drillo: candy/sweets. I remember that our teacher told us about that in 5th grade, I think.

 

Edit: I have one little question myseslf. Is it allowed to pronounce words with an Australian accent in school these days?

 

And another thing.. I don't really understand the grade system anymore.

How can a student attending to college (What's the UK word for that?) who barely speaks English in class, and when the person opens its mouth, the words comming out sound less English then a sheep trying to bark?

Endret 15. april 2007 av KristianG

[Drillo]

But when reading a text, one's supposed to read "for example", not "exempli gratia", right?

[Minus]

I just say "e.g". Hope that's ok.

[MrLee]

Well, I would vary the pronunciation depending on the audience. Not everyone would know exempli gratia when you say it, while others would. Where it would be reasonable to assume that your audience would know the meaning, I would use it. If not, I "dumb it down" to for example. You don't want to to sound like a show-off either

Endret 15. april 2007 av MrLee

[Minus]

Well, the attendants in my class wouldn't even understand "for example", so I have to speak Norwegian in there. Haha.

 

By the way, MrLee: Aren't you supposed to stop posting two hours ago?

Endret 15. april 2007 av KristianG

[Fruktkake]

I don't see anyone around The Internet (is it written with a big T as well) saying f.ex, it's ought to be much simpler than for example. As for the one not trying to sound like a wannabe American, the one thing to start with is to cut the 'Æ' instead of the 'A' when you pronounce things. Americans love to say 'Æ' instead of 'A', f.ex 'I Æsked you', not 'I asked you'. The last mentioned is UK English. By the way, does anyone know the gramatical rule for whose or whom?

[Drillo]

I don't see anyone around The Internet (is it written with a big T as well) saying f.ex, it's ought to be much simpler than for example. As for the one not trying to sound like a wannabe American, the one thing to start with is to cut the 'Æ' instead of the 'A' when you pronounce things. Americans love to say 'Æ' instead of 'A', f.ex 'I Æsked you', not 'I asked you'. The last mentioned is UK English. By the way, does anyone know the gramatical rule for whose or whom?

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"Whom" is an object pronoun like "him," "her" and "us". We use "whom" to ask which person receives an action.

 

EXAMPLES:

Whom are you going to invite?

Whom did he blame for the accident?

Whom did he hire to do the job?

 

I think it's relatively rarely used. Maybe it's also ok to write e.g. "Who are you going to invite"?

 

"Whose" is a possessive pronoun like "his," "her" and "our". We use "whose" to find out which person something belongs to.

 

EXAMPLES:

Whose camera is this?

Whose dog is barking outside?

Whose cell phone keeps ringing?

Endret 15. april 2007 av Drillo

[co2]

Input on this anyone?

*removed*

Endret 17. april 2007 av co2

[CCola]

Yup, english is an imporant language, and I write it daily i the MMO game RuneScape.

 

Without communication, there's nothing.

[Kallileo]

Yup, english is an imporant language, and I write it daily i the MMO game RuneScape.

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Oohh.. I thinkt that game sucks.

Without communication, there's nothing.

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You're damn right!

*Just wanted to have this thread in my "my posts" page..*

[MrLee]

My only comment is for the last line really. I am sure wiser heads than mine could think of better ways to express the other sentences but the last one stood out as particularly "engrish"

 

Input on this anyone?

 

Removed by original author's request.

 

Endret 17. april 2007 av MrLee

[Jaffe]

Just this little error:

 

A2: The prices have rised with 5% during 2002, according to numbers published by the government.

 

"prices" is plural.

[Stian89]

Just this little error:

 

A2: The prices have rised with 5% during 2002, according to numbers published by the government.

 

"prices" is plural.

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I guess "increased" would be a better fit than "rised" as well, seeing as "rised" is not an actual word. If you still want to use "to rise" instead of "increased", i suggest you make it risen instead of "rised".

[SnittLeif]

And if "rised" is taken out in exchange for "increased" i would say "the prices have increased by 5%" and not "with"

[Stian89]

And if "rised" is taken out in exchange for "increased" i would say "the prices have increased by 5%" and not "with"

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Yeah, sorry about that.

 

"By" is definitely the way to go.