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[jjkoggan]

Negroids are a sub-species accoding to some scientists, i read on metapedia

We all have African dna.

[Getingar]

Not alot of countrys know what an norweigan is, or any other scandinavian country for that matter

[Getingar]

Negroids are a sub-species accoding to some scientists, i read on metapedia

We all have African dna.

 

Yes, although negroes don't have neanthertal blood.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101217021315AAdp0r9

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8660940.stm

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/2010/05/all-races-outside-of-africa-have.html

[jjkoggan]

Thats debated about, and it's "racistic" to say that there are differente races bestween humans. Not my meaning, but in general. I dont think it's on he paprt that we have different races, but som theories.

Racistic is not a word. There are differences between races, but the key is to judge everyone as individuals not as members of any group or race.

[Getingar]

All things have their place. Saying that some things should be in africa , for example,(i'm not naming any particualr things) is not racist or wrong.

I thinjk it's stupid to get upset just because someone thinks diffrent. I never get upset not even when people say extreme things.

[( )]

of course it's stereotyping! But damnit, the butler is always British!

And what is the Norwegian always?

 

A seaman, fisherman, or a polar explorer...

 

;-)

[SnittLeif]

of course it's stereotyping! But damnit, the butler is always British!

And what is the Norwegian always?

Angry? Dumb as dirt? A cross country skier?

[jjkoggan]

Norway's exceptionalism is, on the one hand, a geographical (and climatic) condition that made us an unattractive target for invasion, combined with a good deal of luck in the general run of history.

 

The USA, on the other hand, is a country that actually has some substance to its claim of exceptionalism. Obviously, I am talking of its foundational documents and history. The manner of its creation, as a group of cooperating states, each state electing its representatives, and the general process being done in the continuation of principles then founded in the british-origin common law, but later being determined to be universal principles closely related to the basic idea of the dignity and duties of the individual human being.

 

And then later, its process of making a more workable union, observing the wisdom of Montesquieu in dividing legislative, executive and judicial powers, and also having the wisdom to make legislation difficult to create. All in the interest of achieving what John Adams defined the republic as being: "An empire of laws, not men."

 

You mentioned the luxury of being a small country, and yes, in the psychological picture this is an element of the matter.

 

I recently visited one of the few shrines in the USA called Monticello, the home of Thomas Jefferson. Amazing place to visit if you are interested in american history. We have no castles, no great churches, just homes of great thinkers and as you might know-the first nation to bequeath to its citizens amazing natural parks to be shared, owned and managed publicly.

 

Ain't that the truth! And yes, I am commenting both the "many" and the actual argument - they are both true!

 

I am not optimistic the nordic economic model will be successful as scandinavia becomes less homogeneous and therefore have fewer common goals. When the oil runs dry and Knut and Ole are supporting significant numbers of Muhammed and Akbar....

 

of course it's stereotyping! But damnit, the butler is always British!

And what is the Norwegian always?

Angry? Dumb as dirt? A cross country skier?

 

Think Monty Python.

[jjkoggan]

All things have their place. Saying that some things should be in africa , for example,(i'm not naming any particualr things) is not racist or wrong.

I thinjk it's stupid to get upset just because someone thinks diffrent. I never get upset not even when people say extreme things.

 

All human beings can thrive together under the right conditions, no matter what their DNA looks like. The differences between us are insignificant, we all have the same basic needs and desires.

[Getingar]

No, their is a huge diffrence.

[Slimda]

No, their is a huge diffrence.

No, there is not a huge difference between the various human races. It's mostly visual differences. Strength, intelligence, speed and similar attributes are mostly due to a culture built around their strengths and weaknesses. Of course bushmen from Africa are "stupid" compared to a high-school graduate in our society, but on the other hand, the high-school graduate would be a complete idiot if he lived in the bushman's world.

[Gjest medlem-1432]

Nope, there are actually a pretty big differents in some things, for example speed. A genetic different.

[jjkoggan]

No, their is a huge diffrence.

Meaningful differences are environmental in origin, not biological, the success of of the USA has proven that. Straighten out environmental differences and race differences are inconsequential.

[jjkoggan]

Nope, there are actually a pretty big differents in some things, for example speed. A genetic different.

How big is the difference and how does it affect relationships between races?

[Slimda]

Nope, there are actually a pretty big differents in some things, for example speed. A genetic different.

The difference isn't big, but it's there. And most of the differences stem from a cultural advantage.

[jjkoggan]

Nope, there are actually a pretty big differents in some things, for example speed. A genetic different.

The difference isn't big, but it's there. And most of the differences stem from a cultural advantage.

 

 

 

Yes, very difficult to isolate environmental effects from biological and in the end these differences do not inhibit our ability to progress as societies

 

[Getingar]

No, their is a huge diffrence.

Meaningful differences are environmental in origin, not biological, the success of of the USA has proven that. Straighten out environmental differences and race differences are inconsequential.

 

"the sucess of America"?

America is full of slums and ghettos in which tribes from africa fight for there "turfs" just like they did in africa.

Studies show that afro americans with the same upbringing, economics class and education as an anglo american still has lower IQ.

Americas golden days are over. Soon there are more africans than white people and the country is collapsing.

 

Also, none of what we say has been proven. No-one has the facts.

There is currently no consensus whether genetics play a role in racial IQ gaps, or whether their cause is entirely environmental.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

 

Let look at some facts

* Many africans say it was better in africa during apartheit.

* Africa has never had a sucessfull civilization built by natives

* Africa has highest rape number "South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world. "

* Africans have no neanderthal blood

* Aficans have diffrent fysilogy. Most notable is the eyes which are far apart and the "monkey nose" as they call it.

This can be seen better if they are albinos

http://www.disclose.tv/files/photos/3c69ccff8acc065L.jpg

 

More reading

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html

http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/ (interesting)

[jjkoggan]

 

"the sucess of America"?

America is full of slums and ghettos in which tribes from africa fight for there "turfs" just like they did in africa.

The social environments for descendants of slaves have been most difficult to overcome. African americans have only had full access to society for 2 generations, one of them is the most powerful man on this planet. Remove the black child from their destitute environment and they thrive. Still, the average black man in america is better off economically than the average european. It would be incorrect to say that greater ethnic diversity impacted the USA negatively since it has far outperformed the less ethnically diverse european nations economically. In fact studies show that diversity improves the financial health of corporations and corporate america seeks out african americans for employment.

 

 

Studies show that afro americans with the same upbringing, economics class and education as an anglo american still has lower IQ.

So far nobody has been able to conclusively eliminate all the variables associated with racism that contribute to IQ, since even white people at the same income and education levels live in a different environment/culture than african americans. Several studies indicate a 10 point increase when african americans are adopted by white parents, indicating a stronger environmental impact than genetic. None of the studies are conclusive, however and as your link shows, consensus has not been obtained.

 

Americas golden days are over. Soon there are more africans than white people and the country is collapsing.

 

California, which has about 33 million people, has no majority race but would have the 5th largest economy in the world if it were an independent nation. It would outperform most european nations today. Any decline will not be because of racial diversity but, rather from irresponsible financial behavior, something that several less diverse european nations have been equally good at.

 

 

Let look at some facts

* Many africans say it was better in africa during apartheit.

* Africa has never had a sucessfull civilization built by natives

* Africa has highest rape number "South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world. "

* Africans have no neanderthal blood

* Aficans have diffrent fysilogy. Most notable is the eyes which are far apart and the "monkey nose" as they call it.

 

Ancient Egyptians which had significant african DNA far exceeded their european counterparts at the time.

Most of your other comments are a result of environment or meaningless anatomical differences.

[Thrinduil]

Thats debated about, and it's "racistic" to say that there are differente races bestween humans. Not my meaning, but in general. I dont think it's on he paprt that we have different races, but som theories.

Racistic is not a word. There are differences between races, but the key is to judge everyone as individuals not as members of any group or race.

 

To be more philosophical about it, it's better to observer than judge. If you start judging a person of a "race", then it becomes easier to judge the entire group in a whole.

[Lidskjalv]

Judging vs Judgemental?