Ye Olde Pub (The English Pub)

[Getingar]

Depends if you call Australian and American languages

Why not?

 

Like färoeise and icelandic are two languages although they are almost the same

Or so ive heard

[Slimda]

My point being, it's silly mentioning swedish and english are similar too. That's something we already realize when they are similar to Norwegian.

[Getingar]

All the worlds languages are similar. when i say world, i don't mean just Midgård, i mean the whole earth-

 

I discoveredv very recently, that i can read Niederlandish on the back of shampoo-bottles.

 

I have read that all languages comes from one ancient one.

[jjkoggan]

All the worlds languages are similar. when i say world, i don't mean just Midgård, i mean the whole earth-

 

I discoveredv very recently, that i can read Niederlandish on the back of shampoo-bottles.

 

I have read that all languages comes from one ancient one.

 

Most languages did not develop in total isolation so there are many similarities, some much more than others depending on geographical and social isolation. This is what makes american dialects so interesting since they are uniquely influenced by so many different waves of immigrants in addition to the american obsession with reinvention.

 

Especially clever are the african americans who invent new slang for the whole world every year. For americans it is very comical to watch you norwegians and europeans try to rap ghetto style and we wonder why you don't come up with many dominant powerful pop trends.

 

Anyways just curious..

[Getingar]

All the worlds languages are similar. when i say world, i don't mean just Midgård, i mean the whole earth-

 

I discoveredv very recently, that i can read Niederlandish on the back of shampoo-bottles.

 

I have read that all languages comes from one ancient one.

 

Most languages did not develop in total isolation so there are many similarities, some much more than others depending on geographical and social isolation. This is what makes american dialects so interesting since they are uniquely influenced by so many different waves of immigrants in addition to the american obsession with reinvention.

 

Especially clever are the african americans who invent new slang for the whole world every year. For americans it is very comical to watch you norwegians and europeans try to rap ghetto style and we wonder why you don't come up with many dominant powerful pop trends.

 

Anyways just curious..

 

I hate hip-hop. I wish it was forbidden.

I long for the old days of the great warriors such as Eysteinn inn illráði

lived,and when good musik was made.

For this to happen, all people that do not have documents of ancestry dating back to 1500 must be banned.

Offcourse 1500 is modern day time but there wherent any immigration then.

[SnittLeif]

You do realize that Swedish, Norwegian and Danish are closer related than most other languages around?

 

Perhaps other than Serbian and Bosnian. Not in writing, but vocally.

I thought it was like Norwegian and Swedish, but evidently they're as similar as our dialects.

 

Why do i know this? I have one colleagues who is Serbian and another one who is Bosnian.

[Slimda]

As far as I've read, Bosnian and Serbian are both taught in both countries, so wouldn't surprise me that they're quite similar.

 

 

I hate hip-hop. I wish it was forbidden.

I long for the old days of the great warriors such as Eysteinn inn illráði

lived,and when good musik was made.

For this to happen, all people that do not have documents of ancestry dating back to 1500 must be banned.

Offcourse 1500 is modern day time but there wherent any immigration then.

What's wrong with hip-hop? It's a musical genre just like any other. Who gives you the right to say what should be allowed or not?

The "old days" weren't nearly as glamorous and heroic as the story make them seem. What do you know of immigration and such in the 1500s?

[Getingar]

What's wrong with hip-hop? It's a musical genre just like any other. Who gives you the right to say what should be allowed or not?

The "old days" weren't nearly as glamorous and heroic as the story make them seem. What do you know of immigration and such in the 1500s?

 

It shouldn't be allowed because it's not a part of the western/norse kulture.

It teaches the wrong values such as hatred towards women and capitalizm.

And it gloryfies violence and theft. This influences children.

All i'm saying is: don't play it on the radio.

[jjkoggan]

 

 

It shouldn't be allowed because it's not a part of the western/norse kulture.

It teaches the wrong values such as hatred towards women and capitalizm.

And it gloryfies violence and theft. This influences children.

All i'm saying is: don't play it on the radio.

 

There is either immaturity, ignorance or some combination of both present in these statements.

 

African americans have lived in western culture(USA) as long as it has existed and the music you listen to today, pop/rock and roll would not be here without african american culture. The Beatles, Stones etc.. derived their music from the jazz/Blues

 

Furthermore, whatever you label as western norse pop music is hardly less sexist or violent.

[Gjest Slettet+981287349]

I hate hip-hop. I wish it was forbidden.

I hate rap more.

But we all have different tastes, let other people enjoy their music taste, and don't complain to them about it.

[Slimda]

It shouldn't be allowed because it's not a part of the western/norse kulture.

It teaches the wrong values such as hatred towards women and capitalizm.

And it gloryfies violence and theft. This influences children.

All i'm saying is: don't play it on the radio.

Norse culture? Are you talking about the viking culture, where women were raped and kidnapped? Or are you talking about our current culture?

Wrong values? Who the heck gets their morals and attitudes from musical lyrics? That's the parent's job. If kids act like the songs they listen to, then it's the parent's lack of parenting that's the problem here.

All you're saying is not "don't play it on the radio", you want to ban and remove everything not "norse".

[Slimda]

Silly forum bug.

Endret 10. november 2010 av Slimda

[Getingar]

It shouldn't be allowed because it's not a part of the western/norse kulture.

It teaches the wrong values such as hatred towards women and capitalizm.

And it gloryfies violence and theft. This influences children.

All i'm saying is: don't play it on the radio.

Norse culture? Are you talking about the viking culture, where women were raped and kidnapped? Or are you talking about our current culture?

Wrong values? Who the heck gets their morals and attitudes from musical lyrics? That's the parent's job. If kids act like the songs they listen to, then it's the parent's lack of parenting that's the problem here.

All you're saying is not "don't play it on the radio", you want to ban and remove everything not "norse".

In the viking age women where very good treated. As equals.

You should learn your history and stop beliving in myths

[Slimda]

It's a disputed area, where we don't know the exact answer.

 

Regardless, the culture has improved the last thousand years.

[Bear^]

There is a lot of speculation though there are a lot of findings as well. Most misconception is that Vikings, all of them, raped, plundered and stole what ever they came over but that too is a myth, many vikings were "nomad" like, travelling around, and many of them were farmers as well. And were they moved, the women moved with them.

 

Also findings contradict the general view of vikings disrespecting their women, in fact, women were highly regarded and when committed to a man she had an elevated status in the household, more or less a keeper of it, and this was highly regarded as well amongst the vikings, seen as these women were buried with the keys, as well as in fancy dresses and riches. It doesn't tell one sided about a brutal and savage civilisation. Of course, not all vikings were nice people, but nothing has changed in modern world, not all of us today are nice people and even today our "own" people rape and murder, yet we do not judge the entire race because of it. Bad eggs happen.

 

Look at the "oseberg" queen, and what style she was buried in. Ship, riches and her finest dress. It doesn't exactly tell a one sided conclusive story, rather the opposite.

[jjkoggan]

There is a lot of speculation though there are a lot of findings as well. Most misconception is that Vikings, all of them, raped, plundered and stole what ever they came over but that too is a myth, many vikings were "nomad" like, travelling around, and many of them were farmers as well. And were they moved, the women moved with them.

 

Also findings contradict the general view of vikings disrespecting their women, in fact, women were highly regarded and when committed to a man she had an elevated status in the household, more or less a keeper of it, and this was highly regarded as well amongst the vikings, seen as these women were buried with the keys, as well as in fancy dresses and riches. It doesn't tell one sided about a brutal and savage civilisation. Of course, not all vikings were nice people, but nothing has changed in modern world, not all of us today are nice people and even today our "own" people rape and murder, yet we do not judge the entire race because of it. Bad eggs happen.

 

Look at the "oseberg" queen, and what style she was buried in. Ship, riches and her finest dress. It doesn't exactly tell a one sided conclusive story, rather the opposite.

 

 

Still, no matter how you cut it life was harsh from the elements and disease and norway's egalitarian nanny state today hardly compares to the viking hierarchy of yore. Furthermore the resistance to foreign culture is hardly a viking tradition. The vikings were excellent assimilators and were heavily influenced by the cultures they were exposed to. Instinctively they understood that cultural exchange advances societies more than it hinders them. Ignorance and isolation ultimately lead to mediocrity at best and destruction at worst. The most significant advances in civilisation happen when the best of diverse ideas merge, not from going down the same old train of thought.

 

Reject other races and cultures at your own peril.

[SnittLeif]

What's up with this discussion about music? What do you guys think would happen if we removed one of the genres from the musical history? The most probable thing is that most of the music you love never will be the same. I say egads to you all. I love all types of music. I have favorites in every genre, and i am proud of it

[jjkoggan]

What's up with this discussion about music? What do you guys think would happen if we removed one of the genres from the musical history? The most probable thing is that most of the music you love never will be the same. I say egads to you all. I love all types of music. I have favorites in every genre, and i am proud of it

 

 

I agree, all forms of creative expression have their place and value, if nothing else to explore the full range of human emotion. What I find interesting is that the origins of almost all pop music evolve from african american culture and the record for europeans to create pop trends is very weak.

 

BTW Egads is normally not used in the way in which you used it. Egads is normally used to illustrate general fear like Yikes!, Oh no!

[Slimda]

According to Urban Dictionary (not the most reliable site):

A common exclamation, abbreviated from phrases such as "Ye gods!".

"Egads, man! Put some trousers on!"

[SnittLeif]

What's up with this discussion about music? What do you guys think would happen if we removed one of the genres from the musical history? The most probable thing is that most of the music you love never will be the same.  I say egads to you all. I love all types of music. I have favorites in every genre, and i am proud of it

 

 

I agree, all forms of creative expression have their place and value, if nothing else to explore the full range of human emotion.  What I find interesting is that the origins of almost all pop music evolve from african american culture and the record for europeans to create pop trends is very weak.

 

BTW Egads is normally not used in the way in which you used it.  Egads is normally used to illustrate general fear like Yikes!, Oh no!

 

 

Get you facts straight, man. I can say "Egads, folks! bla bla bla BLABLA!", or I can say "I say egads to you all" Prove me wrong and I will gladly stop using the phrase as I do