Hvordan gjøre en priest glad.

[Arinomi]

Jeg fant dette på guilden min sitt forum, så jeg tenkte jeg skulle dele det med de som enda ikke har lest det. Forresten så har en priest i guilden lagt sine små notes inni teksten. Hun vet hva hun snakker om.

 

Here goes:

 

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Elunia’s guide to getting a Priest

 

So you’ve got/want a priest in your group

 

Priests are often frustrated that other classes do not appreciate how to work with them, and its very much in your interest to know how to work well with your priest so that your groups are more successful, wipe less often and you finish more quests and level faster. You may be reading this as a non-priest because someone you have grouped with suggested you do so (Tiwa's note: *cough*), please take this stuff on board and you will enjoy the game more when grouping with a priest.

 

I have put together my thoughts on the things you need to bear in mind when grouping with a priest.

 

 

How hate or aggro works in wow

 

In Wow each mob you are fighting will attack whichever character with which it has the most hate or aggro. Different members of the group build hate through three main methods.

1) By pulling the mob. This can be done by taking an offensive action against the mob such as a ranged attack or by entering its aggro circle. The aggro circle is an invisible circle around each mob that when a player enters it will attack. The aggro circle is based on level, so for example a lvl 10 character will enter the aggro circle of a lvl 15 mob at a far greater distance then a lvl 15 character, while a level 25 character would have to be virtually stood on top of a lvl 15 mob to trigger an attack.

2) By doing damage to a mob, once a mob is pulled it will attack the puller, however it can switch and attack another character if that character deals sufficient damage to it. So say a mage pulls a mob from a room towards his group that mob will run to attack the mage, however the tank in the group can built hate by taunting and doing damage, the mob will then switch and attack instead the tank. However the mage may continue to do damage and it entirely possible the mob will turn again and attack the mage.

3) When a mob that is aware of you sees you healing.

 

 

This is why a priest shudders when someone says “All on one mob!”

 

Now this is important if you have a priest in your group. Say your group pulls 3 mobs, those 3 will attack who ever they have the most aggro with. So lets say these 3 mobs come running over, mob1, mob2 and mob3. If your party attacks only mob1 the priest is put in a difficult position, and they can do one of two things. Because they only wear cloth armour they can not afford to be attacked by drawing aggro, so if your group is attacking only one of three here are their two options.

a) They can deal damage only to mob1, this is on the theory that the faster you kill one mob the less damage the overall group can dish out. However if the priest doesn’t heal then someone may well die, usually the tank first, then the rest of the group may follow quickly. This will usually result in the priest getting screamed at to heal and being called a nOOb.

b) They can do a priest job and heal, however since the group is attacking only mob1 as soon as mob2 and mob3 see’s the priest heal they will instantly attack as no one else has built up any hate with these two mobs. Since the priest can wear only cloth they will die quickly and as the tank won’t be getting healed he will also die and the rest of the group. This will usually result in the priest getting called a nOOb.

 

The conclusions is that in wow you should insure that you build up sufficient hate with all mobs if you want to be healed, if you see your priest being attack immediately turn and attack the mob which is hitting on the priest so that it turns to fight you again. Always keep one eye on your priest and never say all on one mob.

 

(Tiwa's notes: if there's a good tank with us, it's ok for others to attack just one mob as long as the tank gets aggro from all of the mobs and takes their hits. In fact, in my opinion it's far better that the tank keeps getting the aggro from all the mobs and the others kill the mobs one by one. Remember, a priest loves a good tank who can keep the aggro. The most important thing to remember is just: keep 'em off me. Oh yes, I have the ability to fade and that lowers the aggro my heals have caused. However: The fade ability has a cooldown and it doesn't stop me from getting the aggro back if I keep on healing and nobody's taking care of the mobs.)

 

 

Sheeping is the exception

 

A good mage will keep a mob sheeped, this is sort of an exception to the above rule, however many mages fail to realise just how powerful this spell is, so mages, check it out.

 

Healing spells work on line of sight

 

Your priest can heal you but only if he can see you. If you have taken damage a decent priest will always know and do everything they can to heal you, however if you run wildly around from room to room then the priests healing spells will continually fail because you keep running out of his line of sight. If you want to be healed stay still in front of the priest.

 

Healing cost mana

 

A priest can only heal if he has enough mana to do so, so keep an eye on their mana bar and listen for OOM (out of mana) shouts. If your priest shouts OOM during a fight if you immediately go and enter another fight straight after you can expect little or no healing.

 

(Tiwa's note: even if I don't shout anything, please be sure that I have mana left.)

 

 

Let the priest kill

(Tiwa's note: as far as I'm concerned, you can ignore this chapter)

 

Many priests have an ability called Spirit tap. If your priest asks always when possible allow them to kill a mob on very low health, not always possible I know, but if a mob is running away with just a sliver of health left toward the back of your group where the priest is anyway let the priest kill it. The spirit tap ability allows the priest to almost double their mana regeneration for 15 seconds. This means that the priest will have more mana to heal with sooner.

 

Healing and damage.

 

Priest can deal damage and they can also heal, however they can’t do both at the same time, I doubt your priest is stood at the back of your group is doing nothing, more likely he is renewing you and therefore is not in a position to be wanding the mob as well.

 

Why isn’t my priest healing me with big heals.

 

For this priest and many others our favourite healing spell is called renew, this spell does not just replace a huge chuck of health at once, but instead it repairs damage to you over time. So every 3 seconds you will get x hp repaired. The reason we like this so much is because it’s a) mana efficient when we spend talent points on it and b) it does cause aggro like a regular healing spell except the aggro it causes is spread over the duration. As such this allows the tanks to gain their own aggro up with the mobs and avoids the priest getting hit on.

 

Small vs big heals

 

Sometimes however the opposite will happen, and you be fighting while your health gets lower and lower and the priest is still wanding away. For a priest how to heal is very much taste and philosophy. Some take the little and often approach but others prefer to use a big heal like greater heal when your health is low. So don’t start calling for help when your health goes below 50%, the priest may be waiting for the right time to cast a big heal on you. However if your playing with this sort of priest make sure you manage that aggro. A big heal may take 4 seconds to cast but every time a caster gets hit it partly resets their cast time. If they get hit often enough they may never actually finish their cast time. If you can’t manage aggro, they can’t heal you.

 

Priest Shields

(Tiwa's note: I'm still not personally 100% sure if this chapter tells the truth, never played a warrior past 22 or so, so maybe some real tanks can enlighten me?)

 

A lot of tanks hate getting shielded as they believe it stops them gaining rage, however this is not true, testing posted on the US forums has shown that shields do not have a significant if any effect on rage generation.

 

Also and more legitimately a warrior dislikes shields as they believe it draws a lot of aggro to the priest for them to get off. Partially true, a shield generates only half the amont of aggro that a heal does for the same HP’s, a shield is very useful when used right. If the priest cast shield before a fight has begun it draws no aggro, and reduces damage taken by at tank at first, usually by the time a priest is called on to start dishing out heals he has regenerated that mana spent.

 

Furthermore its instant cast, if a tanks health is really low an instant shield, an instant renew then a few seconds to brew up a nice big heal can be mana costly and gain hate, but it could also save the tank when in a tight spot.

<With credit to Remedy>

 

Do not spam “Heal” or “Low on Health”

(Tiwa's note: Damn right, ya! D' ah keep tellin' ya ta "kill'em", ey? )

 

A priest, is watching your health at least as closely as you are, constantly asking for heals when going under 30-40% health is like saying your priest is incompetent and an insult to us.

 

I appreciate that this is an automatic function on cosmos, but please turn it off, otherwise every time you get into a fight your priest will start spamming “Fight” and “Hit the mob” over and over again.

 

(Another note by Tiwa: Just that you know, in some situations I heal "in waves". That means that my mana starts to regenerate only several seconds after I've stopped casting, so it's more efficient to cast several spells at once and then wait for my mana to regenerate a bit before healing again. In fact, due to my talents, a small portion of my mana regenerates even while I'm casting, but it's still just a small amount so if there's no dire need for my heals, I may sometimes prefer to wait a bit.)

 

<with credit to Nekronium>

 

My priest forget to heal me and I died

 

A common misconception, priests don’t forget to heal you, they let you die. Sometimes they simply can not heal enough of the party if a pull goes bad. In this case a priest first concern is to prevent a wipe of the group, and this largely means healing the main tank, other party members may have to be sacrificed and rezed later.

 

wtf I’m a main tank and the priest let me die while he healed the coward druid

 

As I mentioned above the priest first concern is to prevent a wipe of the group. Sometimes its obvious that you simply are not going to win whatever nightmare fight you have got yourself into. At which point a priest may very legitimately run and hide until the mobs leave and return and rez the group, however in some cases the priest has already attracted aggro and knows he will never get away. At which point he may see another class which can rez running away, so a clever priest will do everything he can to insure they get away. My brother plays a druid, so I know if it all goes down and he gets away he can return and rez me then I can rez everyone else, strangely priest do have some spells which draw massive aggro so in that case I will use them and heal my brother so that he can escape and shadow meld until the danger has gone.

 

Why is my priest #@%$!ing about loot

 

Everyone is entitled to take what they will use. However what you WILL actually use yourself is not the same as what you CAN use. If you really intend to wear something do say, but if your just going to vendor an item then the priest is just as entitled to roll on it as you are. A priest can only wear cloth so most items dropped he cannot use, however he still has to buy spells to heal you with and these cost money.

 

Since my priest is here to heal he needs no buffs right?

 

A priest needs buffs just as much as you do, when grouping I always ask party members not to worry about giving me attack buffs but armour buffs and mental buffs like Arcane Intellect are sorely needed. Mages this also applies to your water.

 

Heal yourself

 

If you can, heal. Say you’re a pally or druid remember that when the @#!t really hits the fan the priest is going to be intent on keeping the main tank alive, sometimes he can be chain casting to do just that. He may not have time to do anything else. So if you can heal yourself in a tight spot.

 

Warlocks

(Tiwa's note: I think all the warlocks I've seen knew this already, but here we go...)

 

Make sure you put that soulstone on your priest rather then yourself, because your priest can then rez everyone else.

 

Pet classes

 

Remember that we can not see your pets health like we can see the groups health bars, we have to manually target your pet to see its health, and guys remember when the fight gets hairy we have a lot on our plate, however there’s no harm in asking “can you heal my pet” every now and again, because we may just have not had time to check it.

 

(Tiwa's note: I DO see your pets health, but in raids, due to certain features in my interface, I's far easier for me to keep track of the pets that are in the same group as myself.)

 

 

Pallys

(Tiwa's note: I hope everybody ignores this chapter, right? )

 

There is nothing worse then getting through an instant getting most of the way there then dying, only to discover that the two pallys you have with you haven’t bothered to do the quest to get resurrection. Do the quest, pretty please.

 

I am a priest how do I learn more?

 

Read the forums, ask for and listen to advice from other priest and definitely check out this post from the US every good priest should know Remedy’s work backwards: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...tmp=1#post68148

(Tiwa's note: the link hasn't worked for ages as far as I know)

 

 

You may believe that none of this matter’s however bear in mind that while you can get away with it now at higher levels having a priest in your group can really make a difference, even at lower levels if you offend a priest enough he or she will never group with you again. I’m lvl 26 right now, and usually with 2 minutes of logging on I will receive 2 or 3 tells from players asking me to join their groups because I have healed well for them before, those players who have looked after me I will do my up most for, however those that I have grouped with and completely break every above rule I will remember. Please guys, we are a supporting class and we choose this role because we enjoy helping, so help us help you.

 

Elunia, Night Elf Priest of Stormrage Realm

 

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Der Tok ikke lang tid å lese, vel?

[akristina92]

Leste ikke igjennom hele, men det så ut som en flott guide!

[ahpadt]

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Endret 13. august 2006 av ahpadt

[gullf1sk]

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Ok, hvem i helvete bryr seg om hva du har lest før? Det er sikkert andre som ikke har lest den før, så neste gang kan du se til å klappe igjen i stedetfor å ødelegge morroa til andre folk.

Endret 13. august 2006 av gullf1sk

[nord]

http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.asp...&tmp=1#post1813

[Seian]

Haha, elsker sånne guider som dette. "How to ask a warlock for a summon" ligger ikke så langt etter heller

[ahpadt]

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Ok, hvem i helvete bryr seg om hva du har lest før? Det er sikkert andre som ikke har lest den før, så neste gang kan du se til å klappe igjen i stedetfor å ødelegge morroa til andre folk.

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Den ble laget for 1 1/2 evighet siden og har sikkert blitt postet på forumet her før (gidder ikke søke).

[tiboine]

Og? jeg har ikke sett den. Bra guide.

[MrLee]

Enkelte ting er så relevante at de kan nevnes gang på gang. Som prest skulle jeg ønske at dette var en sticky..

Endret 13. august 2006 av MrLee

[Islanbadsj]

Neste gang noen spammer heal, skal jeg begynne å skrive kill the mob etc.

[Bredoc]

Enkelte ting er så relevante at de kan nevnes gang på gang. Som prest skulle jeg ønske at dette var en sticky..

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Den er sticky på wow europe forum under priest class.

[Arinomi]

Jeg vet ikke med dere andre, men jeg er like ofte på wow forumet som jeg er og sjekker emailen min. Det er ikke ofte. Og denne guiden er til folk som vil unngå at priesten blir forbanna, så den er relevant overalt.

[random_wannabe]

Haha, elsker sånne guider som dette. "How to ask a warlock for a summon" ligger ikke så langt etter heller

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Hvor får jeg tak i den?

[Gjest Slettet-p4PIYwb6]

Haha, elsker sånne guider som dette. "How to ask a warlock for a summon" ligger ikke så langt etter heller

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Hvor får jeg tak i den?

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Link til den guiden!

[JoeDohn]

Laget av en priest som har tippet over jeg-er-uvurderlig-og-bør-behandles-med-special-treatment-kanten. Dette er jo simpel læring, og så godt som all denne infoen deles med en eller flere andre klasser. Heller "Hvordan gjøre et party glad".

[Tbau5]

Er duden som har skrevet dette høy på seg selv eller?

[John Keats]

Quote:

 

"This is why a priest shudders when someone says “All on one mob!”"

 

 

Som warrior er det værste som finnes når folk angriper forskjellige targets, umulig å holde aggro når det er DPS på mange mobs, det beste er når jeg kan tanke 1 mob samtidig som jeg slenger en og annen sunder på mobs jeg offtanker..

[Arinomi]

Denne guiden er ikke skrevet fordi forfatteren mener priestene er spesielle og må behandler spesielt. Det er rett og slett en forklaring på hvordan en priest fungerer, og hvordan man kan unngå wipe.

[JoeDohn]

Denne guiden er ikke skrevet fordi forfatteren mener priestene er spesielle og må behandler spesielt. Det er rett og slett en forklaring på hvordan en priest fungerer, og hvordan man kan unngå wipe.

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Det er en guide på hvordan spillet fungerer, eller healere på det mest spesifikke. Eneste grunnen til at den kan sies å være en priest-guide er fordi det er nevnt priest-spells i den. Bytt ut navna med druid-, shaman-, eller paladin-spells, og det hele blir mer generelt. Det er selvfølgelig en subjektiv mening, men jeg har til gode å se druids, shamans og paladins så høye på pæra og selvopptatte som priests på PuG-nivå er. Helt skummelt innimellom.

[Arinomi]

Men så er ikke paladins, druids eller shamans main healere heller. Priests er skapt for å heale. Hele tiden ser jeg tanks og randoms som driter i hvor mye mana jeg har, hvem de angriper, og hvor mange de puller. Jeg sier ikke at priests er den viktigste i hele gruppa, for det er alle sammen. Men det er ingen grunn til å gjøre jobben vår mye vanskeligere!