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Flott intervju med Bay;

 

http://www.michaelbay.com/blog/index.html

 

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: I couldn't help noticing that all the Autobots other than Optimus Prime are GM cars.

 

MICHAEL BAY: Why did I do it? I did this movie for [a budget of] $150 [million]. That was a hard number. Steven, he's tight with the budget. So it forced me to get creative. I opened it to any car company, from Ford to Porsche, anyone. I just did it to keep an open mind because I wanted to find Bumblebee. I did not want a Volkswagen [like in the original cartoon series] — it's the Herbie Love Bug to me.

 

I've had a relationship with GM, so they took me to where they do these cool concept cars. I saw this picture of that Camaro [used in the film], and I'm like, That's the car. It saved me $3 million on my budget, getting all those cars. I don't think you are whoring out the movie, because I think each car kind of fits the character. Maybe not Jazz [the Autobot that's a Pontiac Solstice in the film]. Jazz is the one thing which I was like, ehhh, I wish he was a different car, personally. It's too little. But that's why I did it. It saved me money.

 

There was a poem that leaked on the Internet this spring, seemingly written by someone within production, that blamed DreamWorks for giving you too much creative control over the movie. Is it weird being the director people seem to love to take shots at?

 

No. I'm pretty content with who I am. I feel like I'm happy in my life. They take cheap shots because people don't really know me. They think [what I do] is not art. Like, a nice woman from the Hollywood Foreign Press, she [asks me], ''Wouldn't you want to do more of an art movie, like something that's hard to do?'' And I said, ''Are you kidding me?'' I had this big picture of Bumblebee [behind me]. That took a team of artists. It is so much harder to do, these type of [big action] movies, than a little art movie in the south of France. I mean, if you can take something that doesn't exist and make it look like it's got a soul, that's art. It's just frustrating when people just think it's like, oh, it's easy.

 

Han er heller ikke helt fremmed for å gjøre oppfølgeren :)

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Så filmen i går jeg også. Uheldigvis var det lynnedslag i Bardufoss, så noe av elektronikken svikta (eller noe slikt, jeg har ingen anelse) og filmen ble utsatt 1 time og 30 min.

 

Må si jeg vurderte å vente med å se filmen, men jeg er sjeleglad jeg fikk sett den, og det var uten tvil verdt ventetiden. Råere film skal man lete lenge etter! Jeg satt og smilte lurt under hele filmen og frydet meg over alle det råe kampscenene. Fikk frysninger nedover ryggen i sekvensen da Bumblebee og Barricade sloss i og med at det var første gangen vi fikk se skikkelig transformering. Synes Cullen og Weaving ga perfekte stemmer til Prime og Megatron. Tror jeg må se den en gang til i sommer. Gleder meg til en DVD med mye ekstramateriell.

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Det er kommet en kul making of-sak jeg så hos en kompis, husker ikke helt hva den heter. Der viser de hvordan de virkelig iscenesatte mye av det som skjedde, biler flyr veggimellom og ting sprenges til himmels. Jon Voight tar forlengs rulle og skyter med hagle. Synd at resultatet ikke ble bedre, for Bay virker som en dedikert kar.

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Bay likte jo ikke engang transformers. Tror det var en fordel at en som ikke var fan tok seg av filmen (han ble jo fan etterhvert). Han er så arrogant at han lett klarte å hive ut alle fanboysene som kom løpende med "men du kan jo ikke gi Optimus FLAMMER".

 

Hadde fansen fått det som de ville tror jeg filmen hadde endt opp helt forferdelig. Spielberg var klok som hyret inn Bay. Det ironiske er hvordan Bay hater CGI. Han liker å sprenge ting og er den strake motsetning av Lucas, som helst må ha hvit duk foran hver bidige scene.

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Det er i hvert fall tydelig at de hadde det jævla moro med å lage filmen. Jeg er i grunnen forbauset over hva de får lov til å gjøre i gatene i LA (?), sprengning og graving og skyting og slenging av biler inn gjennom vinduer og gudene vet hva.

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Just another day on the set of Michael Bay.

 

Han er jo actionkonge. Og plot-hole konge :wee:

 

Det er en grunn til at Steven Spielberg sa at "Michael Bay was born to make this movie". Det må jo har vært en helsikens oppgave å få til actionsekvensene. Spesielt når det er midt på lyse dagen. Her sprenger man ting i fillebiter og biler flyver vegg imellom, så skal man få robotene til å passe inn i alt dette her i ettertid.

 

Filmen ville nok vært mye enklere om den ble lagt til Cybertron. Da kunne man bare gjort som i Ringenes Herre og i Star Wars (de nyeste).

 

Men når man ser Bay filmer så skjønner jeg godt at folk ble opprørt over Pearl Harbour. Det er en tragisk og viktig historisk hendelse, men det virket mer som om han var opptatt av å få det til å se "stilig" ut når han laget filmen.

 

Transformers behind scenes 1

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Jeg har aldri sett en film der de tar så store sjanser på settet. De sprenger jo ting rett foran ansiktet på folka som er der jo.

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Og at den scenen på taket når Sam står på kanten bak statuen var 100% ekte er helt utrolig i mine øyne.

 

Så kudos til skuespillerne. :)

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ser på transformers serien nå og det er en ting som iriterer meg, det er at det virker som at alle transformersne kan fly, så hva er det poenget med at noen kan bli biler og noen kan bli fly, hvis alle kan fly

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Hehe, tanken slo meg på dem seinere åra sjøl, men har egentlig godtatt at "det bare er sånn" :)

 

Edit: Hovedgrunnen til at dem blir dem forskjellige tingene er jo nettopp catchphrasen "robots in disguise" da. Hvorvidt funksjonaliteten av dem forskjellige formene er så hensiktsmessige er jo en annen diskujon.

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ser på transformers serien nå og det er en ting som iriterer meg, det er at det virker som at alle transformersne kan fly, så hva er det poenget med at noen kan bli biler og noen kan bli fly, hvis alle kan fly

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Tatt sånn ca fra hukommelsen så korriger gjerne;

Trodde det var sånn at Decepticons kan fly i robot mode, og ikke autobots. (men jeg tror også tegnerene rotet det litt til innimellom)

 

Tror en episode i sesong 2 der aerialbots eller protectorbots blir sendt tilbake i tid sier noe om det. Og Optimus Prime nevner det i "Return of Optimus Prime pt 2" når de er nødt til å samarbeide med Galvatron.

 

Opprinnelig var dette leker fra Japan, og når Hasbro/Marvel skulle dele de opp i snille og slemme, ble alle de "harmløse" (bilene) til Autobots, mens pistoler, fly og tankser ble Decepticons. (Og så kunne de jevne det ut senere og selge enda mer leker)

 

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Det er bare en av mange bugs som er. Husk at alt egentlig handlet om å selge leker. Når Dinobots ble laget så fløy de avgårde sammen med en autobot for å redde de andre. I andre episoder kunne de ikke fly.

 

I tegneseriebladene var de litt flinkere til å holde orden på slikt, men også der kom det glipper.

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var noen som kunne fly og andre ikke, og noen som kunne fly hadde høydeskrekk (Ref sjefen av Arielbots som kunen bli til "Superion" [Concord flyet "Silverbolt"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverbolt)

 

må huske det at de ble skapt til og være forskjellige, altså bakke transport og luft transport, det og kunne fly i robot form er ett pluss for noen ja.

 

 

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Så filmen i forrigårs, er veldig bra laget, litt synd at dem ikke er mere likt første serien av TF, men, men...kanke få alt i verden :) :) :)

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Q: Was the Brawl/Devestator mixup on purpose, or was it indeed an editingboversight?

 

A: It's an Easter Egg for movie 2.

 

:ph34r:

 

 

Uttalt av Orci, en av skribentene. Alle svarene (mye interessant her):

 

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Q: First off, I'd like to thank Bob for being coming to Botcon. What were your impressions of the Botcon convention and would you and Alex be willing to return to another one? And what are Paramounts plans, specifically, for the footage they shot there of the first panel and such?

 

A: First, we were grateful not to be beat up.

 

The folks at Hasbro are truly cool, and they truly care about what they're doing.

 

I have no idea what they are doing with any of the footage from panels.

 

Hanging out with Cullen was awesome.

 

Listening on true fan reactions was priceless.

 

We would absolutely come back.

 

Q: Was the Brawl/Devestator mixup on purpose, or was it indeed an editing oversight?

 

A: It's an Easter Egg for movie 2.

 

Q: 1) How come the Allspark created TFs were all Decepticons?

 

2) WAS there a scene that introduced all the Decepticons, similar to the one that showed all the Autobots?

 

3) Why did you guys make Megatron stronger than Prime? Is it simply that they are are of the same power, but Megatron is simply a little BIGGER or is Megatron just better than Prime is period? Or was Prime just having a bad fight this time?

 

4) Was there more Megatron/Starscream insults that didn't make it?

 

5) Can they do a George Lucas and digitally add more Transformers stuff to the movie on DVD post-movie? This IS ILM we are talking here. I'm talking adding Transformer scenes, dialogue, fights. Making a more gripping Jazz death scene. The human stuff is fine where it is.

 

6) What happened to Barricade? In the novel Prime clobbered him along with Bonecrusher (which was why he was late). Did he truly escape? Scorponok too? And where exactly is Starscream going?

 

A: 1.) Prime intended to use the Allspark to repower Cybertron as it was intended. Megatron wants to abuse it by creating Transformers directly, which makes souless, primal Transformers.

 

2.) No. We wanted to keep them more mysterious, and they didn't have a human to introduce themselves to.

 

3.) I think a little of both. I agree that Prime should've gotten in a few good hits.

 

4.) A couple. Yes.

 

5.) Interesting.

 

6.) You'll find out, I'm sure!

 

Q: What were some of your favorites scenes that did not make it in the final cut?

 

A: Sam and Mikaela breaking into their own high school after hours with the Autobots.

 

Q: Now that it's in theaters and seems to be doing very well - what do you think of this fan interaction process we had here? Do you think it's something that you would do again for other movies?

 

A: We both feel the process was invaluable. I don't think this movie could've been made or promoted correctly if fans had not been part of the equation.

Yes. Anything with an established fan base belongs to all of us, so we see it as our responsibility to continue to find out what others think.

 

Q: 1. How will Sam explain to his parents that his car is now a 2009 Camaro?

 

2. What are the Autobots & Decepticons going to fight over now that the Allspark has been destroyed?

 

Now my questions

 

3. What happened to Barricade & why wasn't it shown?

 

4. How did Bumblebee regain his voice and why wasn't it explained?

 

A: 1.) By the end of the movie, they know the truth.

 

2.) If I knew that, we'd be writing the sequel.

 

3.) Threads for movie 2.

 

4.) When they Autobots land and introduce themselves to Sam and Mikaela, Ratchet explains that he's been working on BB voice and actually treats him with a regenerative plasma laser. By the end of the movie, it's worked its magic, but I agree it could've been clearer.

 

Q: -What does Jazz say when he jumps on Brawl?

 

-Was Sector 7 meant to be taken lightly? They came off a little slapstickish. I'm guessing it was just John Tututro's character.

 

-When Prime kills off Boncrusher he turns and looks at something... Barricade?

 

-How come it would turn dark so quickly? (Blackout scene and BB/Barricade scene.) Both of those scene were in full daylight one minute and pitch dark the next.

 

A: 1.) Can't remember. Have to go back and check. We wrote multiple lines for battle.

 

2.) Yes. Turturro was written that way. We didn't want to lose the fun of the cartoon, and we were already playing the military totally straight so we gambled that it would give us some freedom to go a little nuts.

 

3.) Don't know...

 

4.) Long chase

 

Q: There seemed to be an entire sub plot that was very un-necessary. This is where the Dept. of Defence recruits a bunch of High Schoolers and College students to crack the code... or virus... or whatever. Basically, it intruduced us to the obligatory hot brainy chick with that aussie accent to make her sound smarter and more sophisticated, then the takes a 2GB SD card to her bud so that he can quit playing PS2 long enough to get busted by the Feds, eat a bunch of donuts to show how calm he is- and then cracks just like you knew he would. This continues to Hoover Dam and we eventually leave them behind.

 

So far as I can tell, these two did nothing to advance the story or plot, but only existed to provide a few laughs.

 

Were these 2 brought in because someone higher up requested them? Did I miss their purpose to the story? What in fact did they contribute?

 

A: For non fans, you are probably right. For newbies, we wanted to make sure we had a story mechanism to explain certain things in a deliberately paced manner.

 

Maybe it wasn't necessary, but laughs are worth their weight in gold.

 

Q: 1.what happened to Barricade?

2.Why wasn't the death of Jazz given more weight?

3.Did you have Prime pull that piece of the all spark out of Megatrons chest for the possibility of furture use? (or plot divice?)

4.Are there any questions you thought we'd have that we haven't asked?

 

A: 1.) Robot in disguise.

 

2.) Good point. We debated Bay about that, but the realities of production and movie length made it difficult to deal with.

 

3.) Could be.

 

4.) let me think about that. I'm sure there are.

 

Q: Was it really Starscream that fired that first missle at Megatron?

 

A: Very interesting rumor.

 

Q: You said you disagreed about Jazz's death scene with Bay. There have been rumors that he is a difficult director to work with, is this why you aren't working on the sequels, or did you already have other projects to work on?

 

A: We have a great relationship with Bay, and it was actually a breeze to work with him THIS time.

 

We agreed that someone should die, but we wanted to also to make sure we

really felt the death by being more connected with Jazz to make it more meaningful.

 

Q: Roberto, one of my favorite things about the movie was Shia. I thought he was pure gold and has a bright acting career ahead of him. He could easily be the next Harrison Ford or Tom Hanks. When you were writing Sam's part, did you ever envision him being played as well and as... funny! I could not stop laughing at his every line.

 

A: We wrote him as the 2007 version of "Marty Mcfly." So yes, we lucked out with Shia in that he played it perfectly.

 

Q: If Bonecrushers hates everything, does that mean that he hates hating things?

 

A: always wondered that about Grumpy Smurf, too.

 

Q: 1) why did the Autobots tell Sam to climb that building to get to a chopper for an airlift, while Megatron and Starscream are jets and can take him out even more easily that way? Seemed rather illogical to me..

 

2) how sure can you be that certain eastereggs like Brawl/Devastator and Barricade vanishing will be picked up by the next script writers? What if they don't get it?

 

3) after seeing Weaving doing Megatron, are you 100% happy with it or do you think Welker could have done an even better job then Weaving did?

 

4) same question about the face plate on Prime, I know you were in favour of keeping it on permanently.

 

A: 1.) Autobots are suppose to be covering him.

2.) So many people from movie 1 are coming back that I'm sure they'll know.

3.) Honestly, I think either would've worked, but I was happy.

4.) I think we would've kept it on the whole time.

 

Q: How did the Decepticons get on Earth and how long have they been here? It seems like they've been around for a while just waiting to strike.

 

A: Got there a while before Bumblebee, trying to stay in disguise while they search for Megatron. I think one of the prequel novels covers it.

 

Q: i really liked the movie and the idea of Bumblebee not talking worked for me. i don't really have a question, but more of a request. if you can, please tell the people in the DVD department we need the trademark "transforming" sound added on anytime a bot transforms, thanks.

 

A: Will do.

 

Q: Marry me?

 

A: What about poor Alex?

 

Q: You've suggested via comments that lines that you and Alex wrote for the Autobots/Decepticons and scenes with them were cut.

 

Were these lines recorded by the voice actors?

 

And if so, would that increase the chances of an "extended edition" of the film? I want to see Jazz given the character development that he needed and some more Decepticon dialog. Plus clarification of the whole Bumblebee voice thing with an added line or two.

 

A: Many lines were recorded for the movie that did not make it, sadly.

 

We agree that Jazz' death could've meant more and BB voice thing could've been clearer, but there was an explanation for the voice thing.

 

Q: Were the lines that got cut the final Transformers lines you added??

Out of curiosity, how many lines for each Transformer got cut and who were they??

 

A: Once we had all the voice actors hired, we wrote a few new lines for each to record that weren't in the script.

A handful of lines didn't make it to the final cut for each Transformer.

 

Q: erm so that is 5 lines times 10 robots (I can count woohoo!), thats quite a lot Roberto!!!!!

 

A: exactly -- it adds up quicker than you think.

 

Q: Whose idea were Prime and MEgs personalities(in the clips I saw, wuite interesting) Was Prime based at all of Optimus Primal. Why did you have Megatron so much more anti-organic?

 

A: It's a harmonic blend of ideas. Partly the words, partly his use in the story, but in his case, also mainly how he moves.

His physical characterization, in my opinion, is his most defining trait. A mix of ILM, artists, Bay, etc....

 

Q: In any case, I'M NO GI JOE FAN, but was wondering if Hasbro has considered using one of the TF sequels as a method to start a GI Joe movie series? With the Department of Defense playing such an intricate role in this movie, Along with the fact that human weaponry can damage and kill Transformers in this timeline(unlike the TV series), it would be an interesting spin off. GI JOE was a Special Ops force, and you have the nucleus for GI Joe in Tyrese(Epps), Josh(Lennox) and the other soldiers who help the Transformers in the movie.

 

Tyrese would make a great ROADBLOCK

 

A: Great area of inquiry. Simon Furman's guide was a great cheat sheet for us, and there are a couple of great chapters between the Transformers and G.I. Joe that we were inspired by, as was John Rogers, I believe.

It would be a great crossover at some point.

 

Q: 1) Out of all the Autobots, why did you choose Jazz to die?

 

2) Does Ironhide belong to Lennox now or did Ironhide just drop him off to his family?

 

3) If Megatron rips out sparks, what does he do with them? Jazz's death seemed survivable by TF standards. Now showing Megatron ripping out Jazz's spark close up and showing the reactions of the Autobots would have worked even better...

 

4) Do all the Autobots stay with Sam taking up valuable parking spaces or is just Bumblebee staying with him while the others are off doing...something.

 

5) Did you write something like Megatron's eyes glowing while sinking to the bottom of the ocean after the credits? I was so hoping that was going to happen...what were you aiming for showing after the credits had rolled? Cutting room floor? Didn't make it past discussion?

 

A: 1.) Interestingly enough, we 3 chose him because we thought he would be the one you would least want to die after Bumblebee and Prime, whom we surely did not want to kill.

 

2.) I wonder that, too.

 

3.) I don't disagree. Money's tight!

 

4.) LOL

 

5.) of course we did. We always say, "shoot it both ways, and choose in editing!"

 

Q: 1.) When Frenzy escapes Air Force One, was it written to have Barricade project holograms of people to try and hide the scurried little Decepticon? It seemed that way on screen, but not quite, and I wasn't sure if Frenzy mocked a bunch of FBI Agents right in front of them or what! Additionally, if that were the case, wouldn't it be interesting to see Decepticons in later films projecting entire populations to hide as say, the Pentagon, or some other military establishment.

 

2.) You've already been bombarded by questions about Barricade disappearing. In my eyes, he certainly wanted the glasses- though I couldn't shake the feeling of Double Agent in Disguise. In your opinion as a viewer, would you be entertained by the thought of Barricade revealing himself to the audience as Prowl in Movie 2? That perhaps only Prime knew about Prowl's secret mission to infiltrate the Decepticreeps?

 

3.) Were you responsible for suggesting Uhura's like of 'Hailing Frequencies Open..'? It was a good touch amongst the rest of BB's music.

 

A: 1.) No, we never thought to use holograms in that scene, but I know what you mean. You are right that holograms could be used to great dramatic effect, like the masks in Mission Impossible.

 

2.) Another great idea.

 

3.) We always stay away from referencing ourselves. Mark V realized early on that we could use any lines from movies out of any of the movies in the Paramount libraries, like Star Trek. Don't know who in the sound design process came up with that, but I loved it. If we had suggested that, it would've seemed like shameless self promotion, which Bay obviously did not have a problem with as evidenced by his last minute "Armageddon" line!

 

Q: Is it true you guys had trouble keeping Lindsey Lohan out of Jazz's trailer?(Yea, I'm a bit sauced tonight)

 

A: No, we let her in.

 

Q: One quick question: Where is Starscream headed in the movie's final scene?

 

A: No comment.

 

Q: Sorry just had to pop my opinion in here. I actully would have prefered it if Bumblebee died. The simple reason being that I'd actully care about them. Jazz I never got a chance to know so his death ment nothing to me. and Actully Ironhide, and Ratchet ment nothing to me either. I felt like none of the Transformers had any good screen time. Bumblebee was the only one I really cared about and sadly that allso means he's the only one who could of died and actully had some meaning to his death.

 

A: I don't disagree. But to put it bluntly, we just didn't want to kill BB or Prime, and Jazz was next in line in terms of caring.

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