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[Ajaco]

Det morsomme er at nesten alle som er imot Ensidia ikke hadde hatt noe imot dem om de hadde vært i guilden..

Kanskje en grunn til at de ikke er i guilden, da

 

(De som er hardcore nok til å joine i utgangspunktet, da).

[Altobelli]

Om man ser litt på historien bak Ensidia, tror jeg enhver oppegående person vil forstå hvorfor

[Slimda]

Noen tidligere eksempler:

- Twins

- Vashj

- C'thun

- Mimiron..JoL stack

 

Har du noen faktiske bevis, eller bare følger du saueflokk-mentaliteten?

 

Mimiron?

Ok so I wanted to check numbers for real of overall healing done by JoL but I got bored after the 7th parse

 

Anyway these are the numbers from the top 7 parses on WMO for overall healing done by JoL:

 

First numbers are from ret pally, 2nd is from holy.

 

first what was our numbers - Ret 748k, holy 316k, overall 1064k

 

1st parse: 941k (ret) + 0 (holy) = 941k

 

2nd parse: 570k (ret) + 480k (holy) = 1050k

 

3rd parse: 946k (ret) + 0 (holy) = 946k

 

4th parse: 1294k (ret) + 12k (holy) = 1306k

 

5th parse: 1000k (ret) + 0 (holy) = 1000k

 

6th parse: 842k (ret) + 104k (holy) = 946k

 

7th parse: 957k (ret) + 0k (holy) = 957k

 

and for a special parse....

 

Exo 1st kill: 1000k (ret) + 344k (ret) = 1344k

 

As these numbers show nearly all guilds have the same amount of total healing done by JoL, some holy pallys don't use JoL at all which imo is crazy on such a fight, otherwise their numbers would be as high if not higher than ours. Why do two procs show up at the same time? Im not sure tbh, maybe its a UI bug? As it definately doesnt seem to stack, the Exo parse shows that clearly since they were judging at the same time, if it stacked the 2nd ret would be much higher. No idea but its clearly not something that gives any guild an advantage. Hope that clears up this shizzle atleast but im sure more conspiracy theorys will come

 

 

Kom gjerne med litt håndfaste bevis, og ikke myter.

[Christoffer99]

Forskjellene her er mange.

Ensidia sa aldri at de tok Hodir lovlig, imotsetning til hva eXo-gutta gjorde med Yogg-saron. De sa rett frem at de hentet en buff fra trash, før de tok bossen. De mailet også Blizzard med info om hva de hadde gjort, hvorfor, etc.

We discovered this mechanic on a wipe, and decided to see if we could actually get it to work. The first attempt after that wipe, we realized it worked, and went with it and killed it on that attempt. We also filed a formal bug report on Blizzard's website.

Fra Exodus hjemmeside

De fylte også ut en bug report som ensida gjorde, men de blei fortsatt banna i 72timer, det blei ikke ensidia.

[Altobelli]

Noen tidligere eksempler:

- Twins

- Vashj

- C'thun

- Mimiron..JoL stack

 

Har du noen faktiske bevis, eller bare følger du saueflokk-mentaliteten?

 

Litt morsomt at disse kommenterene kommer fra deg ^

[Ajaco]

Noen tidligere eksempler:

- Twins

- Vashj

- C'thun

- Mimiron..JoL stack

 

Har du noen faktiske bevis, eller bare følger du saueflokk-mentaliteten?

 

Litt morsomt at disse kommenterene kommer fra deg ^

Hvorfor var det morsomt at det kom fra han?

 

Stopp å gå på person, les heller det han skrev.

Endret 30. juni 2009 av Ajaco

[Altobelli]

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Noen tidligere eksempler:

- Twins

- Vashj

- C'thun

- Mimiron..JoL stack

 

Har du noen faktiske bevis, eller bare følger du saueflokk-mentaliteten?

 

Mimiron?

Ok so I wanted to check numbers for real of overall healing done by JoL but I got bored after the 7th parse

 

Anyway these are the numbers from the top 7 parses on WMO for overall healing done by JoL:

 

First numbers are from ret pally, 2nd is from holy.

 

first what was our numbers - Ret 748k, holy 316k, overall 1064k

 

1st parse: 941k (ret) + 0 (holy) = 941k

 

2nd parse: 570k (ret) + 480k (holy) = 1050k

 

3rd parse: 946k (ret) + 0 (holy) = 946k

 

4th parse: 1294k (ret) + 12k (holy) = 1306k

 

5th parse: 1000k (ret) + 0 (holy) = 1000k

 

6th parse: 842k (ret) + 104k (holy) = 946k

 

7th parse: 957k (ret) + 0k (holy) = 957k

 

and for a special parse....

 

Exo 1st kill: 1000k (ret) + 344k (ret) = 1344k

 

As these numbers show nearly all guilds have the same amount of total healing done by JoL, some holy pallys don't use JoL at all which imo is crazy on such a fight, otherwise their numbers would be as high if not higher than ours. Why do two procs show up at the same time? Im not sure tbh, maybe its a UI bug? As it definately doesnt seem to stack, the Exo parse shows that clearly since they were judging at the same time, if it stacked the 2nd ret would be much higher. No idea but its clearly not something that gives any guild an advantage. Hope that clears up this shizzle atleast but im sure more conspiracy theorys will come

 

 

Kom gjerne med litt håndfaste bevis, og ikke myter.

Vet du egentlig hva du snakker om? C/P fra Enisidia er vanskelig

Endret 30. juni 2009 av Rukk

[Slimda]

Ikke så vanskelig å kopiere og lime inn, men jeg kommer tross alt med noe mer enn et par navn og saueflokk-uttalelser. Kom gjerne med noe større bevis.

 

*edit*

 

eXo-folkene var også litt kvalme... Vifte rundt med det Amerikanske flagg, samt gå rundt å si at "se på ensidia, de roper exploit, tapere!". Meh.

Endret 30. juni 2009 av Slimda

[Altobelli]

Ikke så vanskelig å kopiere og lime inn, men jeg kommer tross alt med noe mer enn et par navn og saueflokk-uttalelser. Kom gjerne med noe større bevis.

 

*edit*

 

eXo-folkene var også litt kvalme... Vifte rundt med det Amerikanske flagg, samt gå rundt å si at "se på ensidia, de roper exploit, tapere!". Meh.

Nerdragen til Ensidia siden killet til eXo har jo vært fenomenal da!

[Slimda]

Ikke så vanskelig å få kill når man har exploits, gitt.

[Altobelli]

Ikke så vanskelig å få kill når man har exploits, gitt.

Vel, først skal du jo også finne exploiten da. Et argument Nihilum/Ensidia kom seg bort med flere ganger, da under navnet: 'Bra bruk av game mechanics'

[Slimda]

Du har ennå ikke kommet med eksempel på exploits de har brukt.

[Frederick_]

Hvis jeg transfer en char til mindre andre account, får jeg alle penga mine, baggene mine, bank osv da ?

[Slimda]

Alt innenfor pengerestriksjonene Blizzard har satt. De er ganske høye for max-level karakterer, så det er ikke noe å bekymre seg ove.r

[Ajaco]

Ikke så vanskelig å få kill når man har exploits, gitt.

Vel, først skal du jo også finne exploiten da. Et argument Nihilum/Ensidia kom seg bort med flere ganger, da under navnet: 'Bra bruk av game mechanics'

Vel, helt ærlig så skjønner ikke jeg hvorfor folk skal rakke ned på Ensidia, siden de "stacket" Judgement of Light på Mimiron.

 

Først av alt, om man har 3-4 paladins i et raid, er det vel naturlig at omlag halvparten judger light, uavhengi om den stacker eller ikke. Og om man da skal begynne å bruke DET som er argument for at de exploitet Mimiron, så blir det bare for dumt. Hva med alle andre encounters, da? Hva med folka som har stacket JoL uten å vite om det? Har de også exploitet da?

 

Dessuten så stacker det mest sansynlig ikke, ifølge teksten Slimda linket til.

 

Folkens, kan dere ikke bare la de få gleden av å ha en worldfirst, istedet for å finne på idiotiske grunner til at de ikke var et cleant kill?

[Slimda]

Så, et innlegg fra "Kungen". Guildleder i Ensidia ellerno.

 

C'thun (Know anything about a disgusting Oozling Kungen?):

 

 

We do not? But it seems you guys do, did you use that to exploit for what? Never even heard of it until now. We as most other top guilds had been working on C'thun for over 2 months. Then it got hotfixed and we and Millenium and several other top guilds killed it that day. The boss was just made easy. That's all.

 

Edit: There is no damn oozeling on his bar lol, It's a normal macro for god knows what. Nessaj is known to be 100% macro and no skills.

 

 

Lady Vashj.....Respawns?

Yes that's a known bug, it wasn't intended as several screen shots proved and it was posted on our front page that a bug had happened and we mailed blizzard right away to get it fixed.

 

 

Twins...No video from first kill Kungen? Sat on a torch?

 

 

Fyi there is a video of our first kill and it's been released. It shows that we were the FIRST guild to figure out the ledge strategy and that's why we killed it first. Once other guilds figured it out they managed to kill it as well.

 

 

Hodir....Flower power?

Yes we used it and we also posted that we did on our web page. The reason for us doing it you can read on our news. Fyi using flower power actually made the encounter harder since you had to fight Hodir + 1 extra pack..

 

 

Mimiron...JoL stacking

 

 

There is a video and there are also wws logs... Anything else you guys wanna make up?

 

 

Er vel ikke så mye mer å nevne da?

[Ajaco]

Jeg ler.

[Altobelli]

Du har ennå ikke kommet med eksempel på exploits de har brukt.

Lady V:

"A priest named "Lewt" or something, who was raiding with Nihilum at the time and delivered the Shadow Word: Death that killed Vashj said a long time ago that they intentionally exploited a bug. Now I know they deny this, but when the guy who actually delivered the killing blow says they exploited and no one else could kill Vashj for such a long time after, it really makes you wonder"

 

C'thun: "Summon Disgusting Oozeling X amount of times to clear out Debuffs stacked on you. When inside stomach, debuff gets stacked that will kill you rather quickly if it stacked high enough."

[Altobelli]

Så, et innlegg fra "Kungen". Guildleder i Ensidia ellerno.

 

C'thun (Know anything about a disgusting Oozling Kungen?):

 

 

We do not? But it seems you guys do, did you use that to exploit for what? Never even heard of it until now. We as most other top guilds had been working on C'thun for over 2 months. Then it got hotfixed and we and Millenium and several other top guilds killed it that day. The boss was just made easy. That's all.

 

Edit: There is no damn oozeling on his bar lol, It's a normal macro for god knows what. Nessaj is known to be 100% macro and no skills.

 

 

Lady Vashj.....Respawns?

Yes that's a known bug, it wasn't intended as several screen shots proved and it was posted on our front page that a bug had happened and we mailed blizzard right away to get it fixed.

 

 

Twins...No video from first kill Kungen? Sat on a torch?

 

 

Fyi there is a video of our first kill and it's been released. It shows that we were the FIRST guild to figure out the ledge strategy and that's why we killed it first. Once other guilds figured it out they managed to kill it as well.

 

 

Hodir....Flower power?

Yes we used it and we also posted that we did on our web page. The reason for us doing it you can read on our news. Fyi using flower power actually made the encounter harder since you had to fight Hodir + 1 extra pack..

 

 

Mimiron...JoL stacking

 

 

There is a video and there are also wws logs... Anything else you guys wanna make up?

 

 

Er vel ikke så mye mer å nevne da?

Selvom Kungen har nok av Efame betyr ikke det at alt han sier er rett

[Gakks]

Selvom Kungen har nok av Efame betyr ikke det at alt han sier er rett

 

Da er det jo bra at du uten e-fame kommer og sier ting uten å backe det opp da