Den store priest tråden

[Syncronized]

Holy eller disc PvE? Gidder ikke shadow mer, og satser heller det PvP.

 

Fordeler / Ulemper?

[ZtriCk-T]

Holy eller disc PvE? Gidder ikke shadow mer, og satser heller det PvP.

 

Fordeler / Ulemper?

 

nå skal ikke jeg hive meg inn og si "this or that" .. men personlig så er discipline det deiligste i pvp noen gang, spør du meg jeg er bare level 65, så har ikke level 80 erfaring med priest, men som discipline synes jeg du healer mye "kjappere" opp livet til folk, pga penance. Også har de to Cooldownsa hjulpet meg utrolig mye til tider. (den 20% casting speed, og 60% or something..) kan desverre ikke navnet på de. Har prøvd holy i pvp og, synes det funker sånn nogenlunde. men du blir på en måte litt sånn tvunget til å BARE heale, på en måte. som disc så går du på en måte 70% healing og 30% damage

 

note: jeg er ingen ekspert på priest, langt ifra. bare personlige erfaringer på lvl 65

[Syncronized]

Hvilke stats skal en shadowpriest prioritere egentlig?

 

SP -> Haste -> Spellpenetration? (PvE)

 

Nevn gjerne begge (Pve/pvp)

[Sink]

Pve:

hitcap > spellpower > haste > crit

[Slimda]

Første "info" om Cataclysm-prester er ute:

Blue Tracker

 

 

In World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, we'll be making lots of changes and additions to class talents and abilities across the board. In this preview, you'll get an early look at some of the changes in store for the priest class, including a rundown of some of the new spells, abilities, and talents, as well as an overview of how the new Mastery system will work with the different talent specs.

 

New Priest Spells

 

Heal (available at level 16): While priests already have a spell called Heal, the existing version becomes obsolete at higher levels, which is something we intend to change in Cataclysm. Introduced at a low level, the "new" Heal spell will functionally work much like a down-ranked Greater Heal did in the past, adding more granularity to your direct-healing arsenal. If you need to heal someone a moderate amount and efficiency is an issue (making Flash Heal the incorrect spell for the job), then Heal is what you want to use. Heal is intended to be the priest's go-to direct-healing spell unless they need something bigger (Greater Heal) or faster (Flash Heal). We will be following a similar philosophy with all the healing classes.

 

Mind Spike (level 81): Deals Shadowfrost damage and puts a debuff on the target that improves subsequent Mind Spike damage. The intent of Mind Spike is to fill a niche missing in Shadow DPS, though it may be occasionally useful for healers as well. Mind Spike provides a quick nuke to use in situations where the priest doesn't have time to set up the normal rotation, such as when adds are dying too fast or you have to swap targets a lot. Spamming Mind Spike will do about as much damage as casting Mind Flay on a target afflicted with Shadow Word: Pain. The idea behind the debuff is that when you cast Mind Spike, we expect you to cast a lot of them; we don't intend you to fit it into an already full Shadow rotation. It also provides Shadow with a spell to cast when locked out of the Shadow school. (School lockouts will no longer affect both schools for multi-school spells.) 1.5-second cast. 30-yard range. No cooldown.

 

Inner Will (level 83): Increases movement speed by 12% and reduces the mana cost of instant-cast spells by 10%. This buff will be exclusive with Inner Fire, meaning you can't have both up at once. Inner Fire provides a spell power and Armor buff; Inner Will should be useful on a more situational basis.

 

Leap of Faith (level 85): Pull a party or raid member to your location. Leap of Faith (or "Life Grip") is intended to give priests a tool to help rescue fellow players who have pulled aggro, are being focused on in PvP, or just can't seem to get out of the fire in time. Instant. 30-yard range. 45-second cooldown.

 

Changes to Abilities and Mechanics

 

In addition to introducing new spells, we're planning to make changes to some of the other abilities and mechanics you're familiar with. This list and the summary of talent changes below it are by no means comprehensive, but they should give you a good sense of what we intend for each spec.

 

All HoTs and DoTs will benefit from Haste and Crit innately. Hasted HoTs and DoTs will not have a shorter duration, just a shorter period in between ticks (meaning they will gain extra ticks to fill in the duration as appropriate).

 

We want to bring back Shadow Word: Death as an "execute" -- something you do when the target is at 25% health.

 

While we want to keep the priest's role as a well-rounded healer, we also want to make sure the class is a viable tank healer, which is something priests moved away from a little in Wrath of the Lich King. Greater Heal will probably be the tank-healing spell of choice, though we've also discussed giving Discipline a second shield so that they have a small shield to cast on lots of different targets, and a big, more expensive shield to cast on a tank or anyone else taking a ton of damage.

 

Divine Spirit and Prayer of Spirit will be removed from the game. As Spirit will be the primary mana-regeneration stat, we don't want it to vary as much between solo, small group, and raid play. Blessing of Kings and Mark of the Wild will not boost Spirit either.

 

Mana will be a bigger consideration for all healers. We aren't trying to make healing more painful; we're trying to make it more fun. When the cost of a spell isn't an issue, then casting the right spell for the job is less of an issue because you might as well just use your most powerful spell all of the time. We are, however, getting rid of the five-second rule, because we don't want to encourage standing around doing nothing. We're also going to cut back on the benefits of buffs such as Replenishment so priests (and all healers) don't feel as penalized when those buffs aren't available.

 

New Talents and Talent Changes

 

We want to improve Discipline's single-target healing capacity. One key is to make sure shielding isn't always a more attractive option than healing.

 

We want to improve Holy for PvP healing. One way to do this is to make sure that Heal's throughput is similar between both specs.

 

We want to improve Shadow for short fights and reduce its susceptibility to school lockouts.

 

Discipline will finally be getting Power Word: Barrier as a talented ability. Think of it like a group Power Word: Shield.

 

We want to make Holy a little bit more interesting to play. One new talent will push the Holy priest into an improved healing state when he or she casts Prayer of Healing, Heal, or Renew three times in a row. The empowered state varies depending on the heals cast.

 

Since the Shadow tree has a lot of passive damage-boosting abilities -- something we're trying to avoid in Cataclysm -- we will need to replace several of the tree's talents. One idea is to play off of the new Shadow Orbs mechanic (see Mastery section below), possibly allowing you to consume an orb to increase damage from Mind Blast or reduce Mind Spike's cast time.

 

Misery will no longer affect spell Hit chance. We want players to be able to gear themselves around a Hit cap that isn't variable depending on group composition.

 

Mastery Passive Talent Tree Bonuses

 

Discipline

Healing

Meditation

Absorption

 

Holy

Healing

Meditation

Radiance

 

Shadow

Spell damage

Spell Crit

Shadow Orbs

 

Absorption: Improves the strength of shields such as Power Word: Shield, Divine Aegis, and Power Word: Barrier.

 

Radiance: Your direct heals add a small heal-over-time component to the target.

 

Shadow Orbs: Casting spells grants a chance for Shadow Orbs to be created that fly around you and increase your shadow damage. This will help lower-level characters feel more like "Shadow priests" before they obtain Shadowform.

 

We hope you enjoyed this preview, and we're looking forward to hearing your initial thoughts and feedback on these additions and changes. Please keep in mind that this information represents a work in progress and is subject to change as development on Cataclysm continues.

 

Endret 8. april 2010 av Slimda

[ZtriCk-T]

Life grip og inner will, niice! Me likes.

[Oxygen 07-12]

Life of grip BWHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!! Den kommer barna til å ha det mye morsomt med

[Sink]

Life of grip BWHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!! Den kommer barna til å ha det mye morsomt med

indeed!

[Slimda]

Life Grip mener du vel, eller Leap of Faith.

[Oxygen 07-12]

lol jeg tenkte det men så klarte jeg å skrive noe annet.

 

LEAP OF FAITH skulle det stå

Endret 8. april 2010 av Oxygen07

[jH-]

Syns det er tragisk at Blizzard ikke klarer å koke opp noe mer brukbart enn en slik spell som Leap of Faith. Ser hvordan den kan ha potensiale PvP, men syns allikevel det virker rimelig sløkket.

[nagina]

Synes det er mer "lol" at noen sier at blizzard ikke kan gjøre det og det, hvorfor lager du ikke noe selv som er bedre/best?

 

Nei, er bare å vente å se hvordan det blir, har hele tiden vært fornøyd med priest jeg, verste moment jeg kan huske var når circle of healing fikk 6sec CD, fristet ikke å spille priest mer

[JohnRichard]

Har plukket opp Holy Priesten min igjen.

 

Har t9 (226).

 

Skal jeg ta t9 232 head/shoulders eller triumf 245 items'ene ?

[olegunnaro]

Non-set 245 - med mindre du har tilgang på tokens fra ToC25.

[JohnRichard]

OK, da kjører jeg NON-set først

[Oxygen 07-12]

Hvilke AoE heals er best å bruke i dungeons fra level 40 til level 80? Og er det anbefalt å bruke AoE glyphs?

[Klumpete]

Du bruker jo de healsa som virker fornuftig der å da, å bruke CoH, PoH og PoM er alle gode spells til sitt bruk, du må nesten bare sette deg inn i hvordan de funker og når du bør bruke ting. Bare husk at jobben din er å holde ting i live, uten å gå oom etter ett og et halvt pull.

 

Tar jeg ikke feil, er det to AoE heals det er verdt å glyphe, Circle of Healing og Prayer of Healing, har da ikke tatt med Holy Nova, siden det bare er tragisk anyways. Circle of Healing glyphen, som gjør at du healer 6 targets i stedet for 5 er en bra glyph, men ganske unødvending i 5 mans. Så den ene glyphen jeg vil si er vits å ta med for healing i kun 5 mans vil jeg si er PoH, siden den faktisk gir mer healing. Men siden manaen din er temmelig viktig og man ender opp med å bruke en del Flash Heal enten man liker det eller ikke, syns jeg den glyphen er et bedre alternativ. Ville brukt Guardian Spirit glyphen ved siden av, å kunne save assen ti folk litt oftere kan være kjekt.

 

Når det er sagt, er det jævlig lenge sida jeg levla priest og heala i low lvl 5 mans, så kan hende jeg tar feil :>

Endret 30. april 2010 av Koseklump

[Oxygen 07-12]

Holy Nova skjønner jeg ingenting av. Den healer for bare litt mer enn hva den koster i mana, og den healer jo omtrent ingenting. Har så langt aldri hatt problemer med mana forbruket heller ikke hatt bruk for AoE-healing. Går for Discipline i dungeons så jeg bruker Shield mye.

[Brotato]

holy nova healer jo som fan da + at du som oftest ligger øverst på dps (på low lvl!)

 

lvla 20-60 i random nesten kun med det, med litt shield på tank innimmelom:p (begynte kanskje litt senere enn 20 pga patchen med random kom rundt da)

 

gikk ikke så alt for ofte oom heller (2-3 breaks maks per dungeon)

Endret 3. mai 2010 av -silenz-

[TOO TRILL]

hvordan er dps på shadow priest for tiden på lv 80? vurderer å plukke opp min 48 priest nå