Nytt Tool album

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VGs anmeldelse

Dette viser jo hvor utrolig peiling på musikk VG sine annmeldere har. Jeg misstenker de for å trille terningen for å finne ut hva de mener om musikken.

[pgdx]

Foresten, har dere lest 31 Mar 05 REMEMBER, DON”T KILL THE MESSENGER på toolband.com?

 

WTF

Aprilsnarr eller woot?

Eller som den var på toolshed.down.net:

    "hi, kabir. i thought it only fair to inform you first, before you hear it second or third hand. some recent events have led me to the rediscovery of jesus. tool will need to take the back seat. this may come as a shock. i just thought you should know considering all the support you given us over the years.

 

    all my faith. maynard."

[JR Ewing]

Im not sure exactly where this originates from, but i found it on the forums to confound.com. The person that posted it there also didnt know where it came from.

 

 

Tool's Lateralus is the most amazing piece of music ever composed. I think Tool deliberately wanted to give their fans something truly amazing, but wanted them to find it on their own. "Recognize this as a holy gift..." At first, I thought that the song Lateralus was about tripping acid - discovering true color by seperating the body from the mind. At first listen, I imagined the bending envelope as an intense visual. After becoming more familiar with the track, however, I had reformed my interpretation to something broader: think deeper. Lateralus, perhaps because it is the album's "title track", serves as the central clue for a puzzle that a friend of mine had read about somewhere on the internet. "All I know is that there is a different order for the songs - something about two spirals.

 

Oh yeah, and thirteen is in the middle." After scavenging through endless google search results, I gave up on finding more about this 'alternate order'. Intent to figure the album out, and very curious about the spirals - I put on the proverbial 'thinking cap'. I understood how the spirals could have a lot of significance, in that the album's title track offers the inspiring, "swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human..........And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been. We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been." In my internet scavenging, I had read one review, written by a drummer, who mentioned that Danny Carey's drum beat formed a fibonacci sequence during the song Lateralus. A drummer myself, I decided to get out the graph paper and follow Danny. I can't play like he can, but at least I can hear everything he's doing, and thus was able to construct the drum tabulature.

 

Sure enough, Danny repeats a Fibonacci sequence through the number 13: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13. After 13, he starts again with 1. Bringing in my Algebra 2 knowledge of the Fibonacci sequence, when the equation for the Fibonacci sequence (which I don't actually know) is graphed, it forms a sprial whose vertex depends on the number at which the sequence begins. Coincidence? I began to think not. I had already known of Danny's obsession with sacred geometry and am familiar with Bob Frissell's book, Nothing in This Book Is True, But It's Exactly How Things Are , so the significance of what I had stumbled upon had actually begun to settle in. This is where I just had to play with Lateralus. I had doodled a few spirals in the corners of my graph paper, and in doing so made the first important connection to Lateralus. I knew that if the tracks were in fact intended to be heard in a different order, "Parabol" and "Parabola" would have to go together. In drawing my spirals, I had begun with a vertex and 'spiraled' outwards.

 

 

After writing the numbers 1 through 13 linearly, I could immediately see that Parabol and Parabola would have to be the middle of my spiral (in that 13 / 2 = 6.5). I drew a simple arrow between 6 and 7 and then pondered the next pair. At first, I actually drew a spiral connecting pairs of numbers whose sum equaled 13 (the number of songs on the album). This, however, left the last track in the same position and without anything to connect to. At this time,

 

 

I had used my copy of Lateralus and Cool Edit Pro to take out the silences between tracks and put the songs in the following order: 6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13. The transition from Parabola into Schism blew my mind, as the plucks, probably dismissed by listeners as a drawn out rant of an ending, perfectly transition into the beginning of Schism. When you count out beats as the strings are plucked, Schism resumes with the same time signature and tempo - mirroring the progression of notes. The transition from Schism into Ticks & Leeches is equally intriguing. Schism ends with strong double-kick bass and tom smacks, and Ticks & Leeches begins with what many would call a 'tribal' drum beat. The beat at the very start of Ticks & Leeches is slightly different every subsequent time it is repeated - the measures are two beats longer. Yup - you guessed it - those two beats are ACTUALLY the last two beats of Schism.

 

 

I can honestly say that I never understood the album's fourth track, Mantra until reordering the album's songs. What I had originally heard as whale calls now had begun to resemble the worst imaginable dry heaves - or a stylized choking. Fitting, seeing as how the last line in Ticks & Leeches is "I hope you choke." After this transition, none of those following it really seemed to make much sense. I certainly didn't like that Disposition and Reflection had been seperated - as they sound quite good when played sequentially on the album. This was the only real roadblock in my disciphering of the Holy Gift. Then I had remembered what my friend had told me - 13 was in the middle. At the time, probably just wanting to believe that there was more to this cd, I had equated this to the positioning of the song "Intermission" on the previous release, Ænema.

 

 

For the song to be in the 'middle' of the album it would have to be the seventh track in sequence, here having six tracks on either side of it. So I inserted Faaip de Oiad after Lateralus, and almost peed my pants when I discovered that (ever-so-faintly) the fading tone of the last note of Lateralus could be heard in beginning of Faaip de Oiad, and how the distortion of the guitars at the tail end of Lateralus resembled, and later transitioned seamlessly into, the static at the beginning of Faaip de Oiad. The lyrics of Lateralus justify this break in the spiral, almost instructing: "spiral out, keep going, spiral out, keep going." I went back to Lateralus to find the next clue. In Danny Carey's amazingly competent Fibonacci sequence, he had stopped at 13 and gone back to 1. This is what I chose to do to finish the sequence. A second spiral was now constucted, and the order for the Holy Gift now became 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. Already many of you are probably fascinated at what I have revealed to you, but I can not even begin to tell you what this new order has opened up for me.

 

 

The beauty of Lateralus is very, very fragile and has to be viewed with a very open mind. It can also be different when looked at from different points of view. Aside from the fact that the new order of the songs places them in an order where they flow together nicely - often ending and resuming on the same notes or within the same progression, and some times - in the case of Lateralus into Faaip de Oiad and The Grudge into Triad - even overlapping (though admittadly sound much better when actually electronically overlapped, this is kind of cheating. Consider this a hint, however, if you plan on doing this yourself), the two spirals help to tell a story that every Tool fan should hear. In the interest of not boring the only casually intrigued, I will try to keep this very brief. I would also recommend familiarizing yourselves with Frissell's book (yeah - the one I mentioned earlier). I consider Parabol and Parabola to be quite expository. Maynard wants us to know that no matter what happens, we must all know that this is not our only existance. Our very minds and the contents of our subconscious are intended to be immortal, and if we accept this into our lives (be it because of personal or religious reasons), it will be so. As such, pain is an illusion. At first, I called it "The Lateralus Prophecy" (for reasons you will soon understand), but I have since decided to call the 'reordered' version of Lateralus "The Holy Gift". As Maynard says, "Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing," I take the word "this" to mean much more than just his simple cautioning.

 

 

Since Parabola is the second track of the Holy Gift, it can be considered at the beginning (esp. considering the context of it's duality with Parabol), and as such, I interpret Maynard's words as more than just clever lyrics in a song. They are a plead for his listeners to listen to everything he has to say and truly celebrate the chance of immortality offered throughout. I would be lying if I said that each song has a specific translation. On the contrary, Tool's music is designed to make you think, not say something specific. It must be treated like great literature - much is hidden contextually. I will elude to Geometric-Drumming's previous post, where he explains the time signatures of Schism: "It represents the title...it's arranged in 12/8 time which is SPLIT into 5/8 and 7/8 - which only really FITS as you PUT THE PIECES BACK TOGETHER." Where Geometric-Drumming claims Schism as his favorite Tool song, I have heard some fans say that it was a retched pick for the album's only single - but I think it was brilliant. Not to downplay the interpretations of those who have posted before me (in fact, I agree with much of what %BlueSoulRobot% has to say), but I think that to the casual listener who knows nothing of Tool, it can be a powerful invitation.

 

 

Think about it - a lot of dingbats with MTV and a radio would walk around with the words "I know the pieces fit" in their heads. I wonder how many of them took the time to put the pieces back together to (re)discover what is trying to be communicated

 

 

There's a Fibonacci in Maynard's lyrics, specifically the syllables:

 

 

 

black [1]

 

then [1]

 

white are [2]

 

all I see [3]

 

in my infancy [5]

 

red and yellow then came to be [8]

 

reaching out to me [5]

 

lets me see [3]

 

there is [2]

 

so [1]

 

much [1]

 

more and [2]

 

beckons me [3]

 

to look through to these [5]

 

infinite possibilities [8]

 

as below so above and beyond I imagine [13]

 

drawn outside the lines of reason [8]

 

push the envelope [5]

 

watch it bend [3]

 

 

 

I suppose it's not actually a true Fibonacci, since it does reverse itself.

 

I guess if you have a drummer obsessed with sacred geometry....

 

Noen som har tanker om dette? Er det bare svada? Kom over det her isted.. Godt mulig at det har vært postet før, men syns det var litt fengende lesning.

[kvikks]

Denne her er jo gammel, men jeg blir aldri lei av å se dette terningkastet. Kom over linken igjen nå, mange år siden sist jeg traff den, så derfor fant jeg ut at for at jeg ikke skal miste den, lagrer jeg den her i denne tråden.

 

VGs anmeldelse

Haha... nå er det en kjent sak at alle musikkanmelderne i akersgata har

pest i ørene..

 

2?

 

Hadde faktisk ikkje sett denne anmeldelsen før... skal eg gråte eller le.

[Captain_Poon]

VGs anmeldelse

Crazy shit! At Stein Østbø klarer å gi "Lateralus" 2, når han gir Britney Spears sin kanon skive hele 3

 

jaja..

[kvikks]

VGs anmeldelse

Crazy shit! At Stein Østbø klarer å gi "Lateralus" 2, når han gir Britney Spears sin kanon skive hele 3

 

jaja..

Haha, eg dør nå...

 

Om fyren i det hele tatt har hatt noe respekt ble den iallefall borte med dette,

hvor finne akersgata sin musikkjournalister?

[Lemkin]

Andmeldelsen er bare latterlig.

 

Om den der Holy Gift så hadde jeg faktisk lagd den .m3u fila engang for en stund siden. Passer skummelt bra

Det er enda en sånn "alternative playorder" som man finner her (wikipedia.org)

 

Det som er morsomt med wikipedia og Tool er at det står en del, og om du klikker på de fleste linkene der så finner du mye interesant lesning

 

Har dere foresten lest den teorien om La Te Ra Lu S som grunnstoffer og alkemy osv? Var en 1år lang tråd på det forumet hvor de gravde opp rimelig mye informasjon.

[Lemkin]

[20:19:42] * Now talking in #tool

[20:19:42] * Topic is 'Tool's New Album "Teleincision" - August 16th, 2005 (Tentative and Unconfirmed Information)'

 

Veeeellll

[pgdx]

Smoothie: Okey? Høres ikke usannsynlig ut, men... Har hørt rykter lenge om at albumet skal begynne på «T», ja, men....

[Jan]

Nåja..jeg sier feb 06.

[Lemkin]

Gal av å vente....

[pgdx]

Søk på det ordet gir ingen treff... Har du noen flere kilder enn en IRC-kanal?

[Lemkin]

Egentlig ikke, bare ble litt opphisset av at det var noen "nytt" om albumet.

[hylo]

Jeg gleder meg meg særdeles mye til det nye Tool albumet kommer ut! Tehe! Det skal bli gøy. Hooker with a Penis er tøff, btw.

Endret 14. april 2005 av Hylo

[pgdx]

Egentlig ikke, bare ble litt opphisset av at det var noen "nytt" om albumet. 

Søk på ordet gir forresten ett treff: teleincision, og det er på min private side, så... Det er nok veldig liten sjanse for at det stemmer...

It [at Maynard joinet APC og har spilt med de i det siste] allows us to do what we set out to do, which is to take the time that the music needs to take before you present it. For me to have done Lateralus and then come out with another Tool album within a year wouldn't have been a good step forward. We've always subscribed to the idea that you have to process life experiences and go through your natural progression as an artist to let the [music] come out, rather than forcing it out. We're just the kind of band where it takes a long time for us to process.

Endret 16. april 2005 av drange_net

[SjokoladeJesus]

Intet som et rykte basert på ingenting.

 

August er forresten en fin måned.

[Jan]

Intet som et rykte basert på ingenting.

Nei så sant så sant.

[Lemkin]

Maynard bursdag i dag?

 

 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAYNARD står det jo på toolband.com

[kaiern]

Hvis det er rett så, grattis Maynard

[Jan]

Yeey