Rubex Skrevet 13. august 2004 Del Skrevet 13. august 2004 Jeg såg top gun i dag uten noen form for tekst siden det var divx. Så lurer jeg på hva en setning betyr. Jeg klarer ikke helt å høre hva personen sier. Det er rett etter siste fly "kamp" da det er alvår. USA sine fly kommer tilbake til hangaren og da sier Tom Cruise: "Mustang: This is MaveRick... Requesting flyby..." Tårnet svarer da: "Negative Ghostrider the.....??" Hva er det som blir sagt der spørsmåltegnene står? Hva betyr det? Dette var kansker ekstremt rotete forklart.... skylder på tretthet Lenke til kommentar
Dorian Gray Skrevet 13. august 2004 Del Skrevet 13. august 2004 Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full. Kan dette stemme? Lenke til kommentar
Rubex Skrevet 13. august 2004 Forfatter Del Skrevet 13. august 2004 Det høres slik ut ja, men hva mener han med det? Da jeg slo opp pattern/patter kom jeg bare frem til noe med mønster og regn Lenke til kommentar
Ueland Skrevet 13. august 2004 Del Skrevet 13. august 2004 negativt <<pilot-kallenavn>> flybanen er full. aka piloten kan ikke lande, gå inn i landingsbanen fordi at enten jobber folk på rullebanen eller så er det andre fly på vei inn akkurat da. Lenke til kommentar
Rubex Skrevet 14. august 2004 Forfatter Del Skrevet 14. august 2004 Nei. Det er ikke det saken er her. Piloten skal ikke lande. Han skal foreta en flyby. Altså fly forbi broen på hangarskipet. Samme som han sier tidligere i filmen. "Tower: This is GhosRider. Requesting a flyby". Han skal ikke lande, men bare fly forbi. Da også sier tårnet "Negative the pattern is full" Lenke til kommentar
Ueland Skrevet 14. august 2004 Del Skrevet 14. august 2004 patteren is full = flybanen aka området er fullt, blir det samme fordet. hovedsakelig pga at fly skal ha store avstander mellom seg. Lenke til kommentar
Rubex Skrevet 14. august 2004 Forfatter Del Skrevet 14. august 2004 patteren is full = flybanen aka området er fullt, blir det samme fordet. hovedsakelig pga at fly skal ha store avstander mellom seg. Ok. Så pattern flybane/flyområdet? Lenke til kommentar
Ueland Skrevet 14. august 2004 Del Skrevet 14. august 2004 (med forbehold om feil ) Lenke til kommentar
Rubex Skrevet 14. august 2004 Forfatter Del Skrevet 14. august 2004 Ok. Takk for hjelpen Lenke til kommentar
Xanitra Skrevet 14. august 2004 Del Skrevet 14. august 2004 requesting fly-by... øøøh.. "Requesting to land" ville vært mer i samsvar med "Negative blablabla the pattern is full. " men jaja. bra film da. Men Tom Cruise har skjeldent dårlige filmer. Lenke til kommentar
MrLee Skrevet 14. august 2004 Del Skrevet 14. august 2004 ikke hvis Pattern = luftrommet over flyplassen.. Lenke til kommentar
Hidden Skrevet 15. august 2004 Del Skrevet 15. august 2004 Pattern har vel med ventekøen før landing å gjøre, d.v.s. fly må sirkle i en bestemt høyde og bane rundt flyplassen i påvente av klarsignal for landing, og da er det kanskje ikke så bra å skrape malingen av taket på tårnet så de ansatte søler varm kaffe på seg.. *mrgreen* knallbra scene. Merk: Jeg tror pattern har med dette å gjøre (landingsmønster), er ikke 100% sikker. Har ikke holdt på med flysimmer på mange år nå. Lenke til kommentar
lceman™ Skrevet 2. september 2004 Del Skrevet 2. september 2004 (endret) Pattern har vel med ventekøen før landing å gjøre, d.v.s. fly må sirkle i en bestemt høyde og bane rundt flyplassen i påvente av klarsignal for landing, og da er det kanskje ikke så bra å skrape malingen av taket på tårnet så de ansatte søler varm kaffe på seg.. *mrgreen* knallbra scene. Merk: Jeg tror pattern har med dette å gjøre (landingsmønster), er ikke 100% sikker. Har ikke holdt på med flysimmer på mange år nå. Stemmer Top Gun er full av flygetekniske feil da...... Fra www.movie-mistakes.com : Factual error: In the movie the MiG 28 was continually refered to. In reality there is no such thing as a MiG 28. Russian (or Soviet) MiG use odd numbers Factual error: During the briefing before the final scene, the Captain says, "The Migs carry the Exocet missile. They can fire that missile from a hundred miles away." Yes they could fire the Exocet from a hundred miles away, but the Exocet's maximum range is around 40 miles. In the last battle. Mav is ordered to launch his alert five. While hooking up to the catapult we see a man holding his left hand flat and placing two fingers sideways into it. That means you are plugging in an external power source. You would not do that during launch. The most basic mistake of all, but probably only obvious to those who fly in the Navy. Every written reference to "TOP GUN" is wrong. TOPGUN is one word, all caps, always has been... Check it out at the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center (NSAWC) website. http://www.fallon.navy.mil/NSAWC.HTM The most basic mistake of all, but probably only obvious to those who fly in the Navy. Every written reference to "TOP GUN" is wrong. TOPGUN is one word, all caps, always has been... Check it out at the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center (NSAWC) website. http://www.fallon.navy.mil/NSAWC.HTM In all sequences where Maverick "puts on the brakes", he is shown pushing the throttle quadrant forward and pulling the stick back. This would put him in a full-afterburner climb as the airbrake on the F-14 is actuated by a small slide button on the side of the quadrant itself. At the beginning of the movie, during the first encounter with the Migs, Goose whips out a Polaroid camera and takes a picture of the Mig while inverted. There is no chance that the other plane would be visible in the photo. Goose used a flash bulb. The glass of the canopy would reflect the majority of that flash right back at the camera. The only thing that would appear in the photo would be a big white flash of light. Just as Mav goes into the flat spin, you hear a voice over while looking at the rear of his F-14 (you can see the AB), you hear "Engine 1 is out" and you see the right engine flame out... this is engine 2, engine 1 is the left engine. When Mav explains to Charlie his dogfight with the MiG-28, Charlie askes him: "You were in a 4G inverted dive with a MiG-28?", "Yes Mam" he replies. Imagine the two aircraft. The F-14 was inverted (the back of the F-14 was "looking" at the ground, and it was pulling 4 positive G's), and the MiG-28 was flying horizontally (belly of the MiG-28 was "looking" at the ground) so it should have been pulling 4 negative G's to keep their distance constant, or more to increase it (otherwise they'd have collided). For the MiG to pull 4 negative g's is almost impossible for two reasons: 1) the negative g-limits of the aircraft are somewhere in the area of 3.5, and 2) the Russian pilot's eyes would have popped out of his head at this g-force. Even the most modern and agile fighter aircraft of the world (like the F-16 and the Eurofighter) have a negative g-limit of 3.5 while their positive limit is at 9, mainly due to human body constraints. The final dogfight scene has a huge error when Hollywood's jet is hit with a missile and he ejects. The next scene shows him manually deploying a small pilot chute to open his main parachute. After seat/man seperation, the main chute automatically deploys depending on altitude and airspeed. He would still be connected to his ejection seat until his chute deploys. Having to manually throw a "pilot chute" to the wind would leave too much for human error. Blue missiles mean the weapon is used for training. They are inert and will not fire. Iceman's plane carried blue missiles when it was launched off the carrier. In his first flight at Top Gun, Maverick and Jester are seen flying at low level, yet there is a 10,000 foot hard deck, so they must be flying over mountains that height above sea level, in which case the hard deck to be any use would have to be higher : After the final dogfight scene when Maverick and Iceman have landed, we see their two F-14 Tomcats spotted (parked) on the flight deck of the carrier. In the background, you see aircraft already spotted on the fantail (back of the ship) with several blocking the direct path of any aircraft landing on the carrier. While the aircraft directors and blueshirt crews would be fast in moving aircraft, they would not have had the time to spot and tie down all those aircraft on the fantail before Maverick and Iceman had finished parking their jets. In the final dogfight scene, the Search and Rescue helicopter lands with rescued pilots very soon after the last F-14 lands. The dogfight took place approximately 250 miles away from the ship. The top speed of an H-3 is 120 knots. It should have taken the helo nearly two hours to return to the ship. When Cougar lost the edge after, he wouldn't have given his wings to his Commanding Officer. Handing in your wings is merely a phrase, not something people do. And it just keeps going, and going...... Endret 2. september 2004 av Icedude Lenke til kommentar
Vice Skrevet 2. september 2004 Del Skrevet 2. september 2004 Pattern sikter nok til "ventemønsteret" som fly ofte må innta mens de venter på ledig rullebane, som noen her var inne på. Lenke til kommentar
Xanitra Skrevet 3. september 2004 Del Skrevet 3. september 2004 Men han sier egentlig.. no thank you ghost rider, no sossage in the building Lenke til kommentar
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