Krigen mellom Israel og Hamas

[Svala]

Stiller meg bak Israels ambassadør som mener Barth Eide er dobbeltmoralsk. Når det er granskninger av Israel stiller Barth Eide seg bak det, mens når Israel eller israelere ønsker en gransking så beskyldes de for å drive et politisk spill. Hvorfor er det ikke i Barth Eides interesse å finne ut om det er hold i anklagene mot UNRWA? 
https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i/Eya035/israels-ambassadoer-til-vg-espen-barth-eide-er-dobbeltmoralsk

Man kan også spørre hvilken agenda VG har når de fortsetter å hevde at det ikke er lagt frem bevis på at UNRWA-ansatte deltok i terrorangrepet 7. oktober. 

[UglaSukk]

"The German newspaper Bild reported on Monday that Israel is planning to invade Lebanon in the second half of July as Israeli forces and Hezbollah continue to trade fire across the border."

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/07/01/report-israel-plans-to-invade-lebanon-in-the-second-half-of-july/

Et spørsmål blir : kommer det til å skje før eller etter turen til USA?

"Netanyahu is scheduled to address a joint meeting of the United States Congress on July 24, 2024."

 

 

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"Nearly nine months into a war that Israel did not plan for, its army is short of spare parts, munitions, motivation and even troops." 

There's a specific mention of tanks operating below full capacity: "At least some tanks in Gaza are not loaded with the full capacity of the shells that they usually carry, as the military tries to conserve its stocks in case a bigger war with Hezbollah does break out." 

The article emphasizes the shortage of artillery shells: "Five officials and officers confirmed that the army was running low on shells." 

Beyond ammunition, there's also a shortage of equipment maintenance resources: "The army also lacks spare parts for its tanks, military bulldozers and armored vehicles, according to several of those officials."

It also mentions issues with troop motivation and a "crisis of confidence in the military leadership."

While the military claims significant progress against Hamas, with an estimated 14,000 fighters killed, they acknowledge that "several thousand Hamas fighters remain at large, hidden in tunnels dug deep underneath the surface of Gaza."

Israeli Generals, Low on Munitions, Want a Truce in Gaza - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Israel's top generals want ceasefire - NYT (bignewsnetwork.com)

The IDF doesn't have enough troops or ammo to fight in Gaza and Lebanon simultaneously, officials have told the New York Times

Dozens of senior Israeli generals want Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to strike a truce deal with Hamas so they can prepare for a potential war with Hezbollah in Lebanon, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.

With Israel's war on Hamas about to enter its ninth month, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has lost at least 674 troops, supplies of artillery shells are low, and around 120 Israelis - dead and alive - remain held as hostages in Gaza. Hamas fighters have popped up in areas of the enclave previously cleared by the IDF, and Netanyahu has still refused to publicly state whether Israel intends to occupy post-war Gaza or turn the territory over to a Palestinian government.

Against this background, the 30 senior generals who make up Israel's General Staff Forum want Netanyahu to reach a ceasefire with Hamas, even if this means leaving the militants in power in Gaza, the New York Times reported.

According to six current and former security officials, five of whom requested anonymity, the generals want time to rest their troops and stockpile ammunition in case a land war with Hezbollah breaks out. Additionally, the generals also view a truce as the best means of freeing the remaining hostages, contradicting Netanyahu's insistence that only "total victory" over Hamas would bring the captives home.

"The military is in full support of a hostage deal and a ceasefire," former Israeli National Security Adviser Eyal Hulata told the newspaper. 

"They believe that they can always go back and engage Hamas militarily in the future," he continued. "They understand that a pause in Gaza makes de-escalation more likely in Lebanon. And they have less munitions, less spare parts, less energy than they did before - so they also think a pause in Gaza gives us more time to prepare in case a bigger war does break out with Hezbollah."

Hezbollah, a powerful Iranian-backed political movement and paramilitary force, entered the Israel-Hamas conflict last October. However, the group waged a limited campaign of tit-for-tat drone and missile strikes on northern Israel, which leader Hassan Nasrallah said in November was aimed at tying up Israeli forces near the border to prevent their deployment to Gaza.

Netanyahu announced last month that he would pull some IDF units out of Gaza and move them to the Lebanese border, stoking fears of an imminent invasion of Lebanon. Tension was further heightened last week when Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant warned that the IDF was "preparing for every scenario" and could take "Lebanon back to the Stone Age."

The US has reportedly warned against starting even a "limited war" in Lebanon, while Iran has declared that it would "support Hezbollah by all means" in such a conflict.

The Israeli military has not publicly endorsed a ceasefire in Gaza. In a statement to the New York Times, the IDF said it was still working toward the destruction of "Hamas' military and governing capabilities, the return of the hostages, and the return of Israeli civilians from the south and the north safely to their homes." Netanyahu's office declined to comment on the report.

Så IDF har problemer. Under en krig mot Hizbollah må de nemlig underlegge seg så mye land som mulig for å hindre total ødeleggelse av sitt hjemland, og da trenger de uthvilte tropper, nok ammunisjon, nok delvarer og all utstyr i topp tilstand for krevende oppgaver. 

[Ørjanø]

0laf skrev (På 30.6.2024 den 11:18 AM):

Ikke lett å kjøre feil.

En israelsk mann kjørte feil, og endte opp i et palestinsk nabolag.

Forrige gang det skjedde, for noen uker siden, endte det opp med at en mann ble drept, denne gangen klarte denne mannen å komme seg unna palestinerne.

I 2000 kjørte også to reservesoldater feil, og endte opp med å bli lynsjet og partert av palestinere, som er opphav til de "røde hendene" protestanter ofte benytter.

Hvordan er det å kjøre feil i Israel?

 

 

Godt han overlevde da. Han lærte nok å aldri kjøre feil igjen. 

Verre for palestinere! Trenger ikke å kjøre feil eller havne i en jødisk nabolag engang for å bli drept. 

 

[Tussi]

Ørjanø skrev (5 minutter siden):

Godt han overlevde da. Han lærte nok å aldri kjøre feil igjen. 

Verre for palestinere! Trenger ikke å kjøre feil eller havne i en jødisk nabolag engang for å bli drept. 

 

Merkelig. Det blir flere millioner arabere i Israel, uten at de blir drept...

[Ørjanø]

Tussi skrev (18 minutter siden):

Merkelig. Det blir flere millioner arabere i Israel, uten at de blir drept...

Ikke så merkelig nei. Disse er på israelsk jord, følger israelske lover etc. De står ikke i veien for å ta palestinsk jord og dermed ingen trussel. 

[0laf]

CNN "sparker" en av sine freelance-journalister i Gaza, etter at det har kommet frem at vedkommende støtter Hamas
 

https://honestreporting.com/exposed-the-hamas-links-of-cnn-journalist-abdel-qader-al-sabbah/

 

 

VG vurderer fortløpende hvorvidt de skal gjøre det samme med sin journalist Sami Abu Salem (...NOT) !!

[UglaSukk]

Pensjonert general Yitzhak Brik :

"Officers, high commanders, and soldiers, are in contact with me daily from the field, and inform me of what is happening every minute. Yesterday an officer spoke to me and told me : "Brick", continue doing what you're doing, with full force. He's in Rafah right now, and he told me every word I say is true. They are deceiving the public, and they don't tell the truth,, that we are not winning. We don't come face to face with Hamas. Until today they don't appear before us, and all the claims that the army killed 100 there and 200 there are false. They are underground! They come out, launch rockets, and detonate houses we are in with explosives, and we are being killed."

https://rumble.com/v55abn7-they-are-fooling-the-israeli-public-about-gaza-general-yitzhak-brik.html

[0laf]

The United Nations has opened an investigation into allegations that Francesca Albanese, the controversial UN monitor tasked with investigating “Israel’s violations,” illegally accepted funding from pro-Hamas groups to fund an estimated $20,000 trip to Australia and New Zealand, in which she lobbied a major pension fund to divest from Israel.

The investigations division of the UN’s Office of Internal Oversight Services recently announced that it has opened a case into allegations of financial improprieties by Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur tasked with monitoring “Israel’s violations” in the Palestinian territories.

A former lawyer with UNRWA who co-founded a global network to lobby against Israel, Albanese recently became the first UN human rights rapporteur in the history of the United Nations to be condemned by France and Germany for antisemitism.

She was also censured in 2022 by the US Special Envoy to Combat Antisemitism, after it was revealed she had published a fundraising appeal for UNRWA claiming that “America is subjugated by the Jewish lobby.” In 2023, a bipartisan group of 18 lawmakers condemned her refusal to denounce terrorism against Israelis.

The new UN investigation, which OIOS said would be conducted by High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Turk, was sparked by a complaint filed in June by United Nations Watch, an independent non-governmental organization based in Geneva.

In wake of the investigation, UN Watch announced that today it has filed proceedings with the United Nations to remove Albanese.

https://unwatch.org/un-opens-investigation-into-official-accused-of-antisemitism-by-france-germany-us/

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Spill for galleriet, Volker Turk er jo nesten like ille som Albanese, så kommer neppe noe ut av dette, men man vet jo aldri.

Endret 3. juli av 0laf

[The Very End]

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Israel annekterer mer av den okkuperte Vestbredden

Israel har annektert et 12,7 kvadratkilometer stort område i Jordan-dalen på den okkuperte Vestbredden.

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i/eMJ67g/israel-annekterer-mer-av-den-okkuperte-vestbredden 

Endret 3. juli av The Very End

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The Very End skrev (2 timer siden):

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i/eMJ67g/israel-annekterer-mer-av-den-okkuperte-vestbredden 

Det er for jævlig.

[0laf]

Hezbollah feirer 4. juli
 

 

[Svein M]

En Israelsk soldat ble drept i angrepet fra Hezbollah. Israel svarer på angrepet med angrep i Libanon.

[Svein M]

Hamas har betydelig beveget seg i retning en mulig avtale om løslatelse av de israelske gislene, opplyser nyhetsbyrået Reuters.

edit: Omtalt også på NRK: https://www.nrk.no/urix/hamas-har-lagt-frem-nytt-forslag-til-vapenhvile-1.16951822

Endret 5. juli av Svein M

[Reg2000]

On 3.7.2024 at 10:19 PM, The Very End said:

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i/eMJ67g/israel-annekterer-mer-av-den-okkuperte-vestbredden 

Der har du grunnen til at Israel hadde soldatene(terroristene) sine ved vestbredden og ikke ved Gaza når terrorangrepet kom.

[The Very End]

22 minutes ago, Reg2000 said:

Der har du grunnen til at Israel hadde soldatene(terroristene) sine ved vestbredden og ikke ved Gaza når terrorangrepet kom.

Med andre ord, de anså det som mer nyttig å terrorisere sivilbefolkningen (aggressor) enn å verne egne grenser (forsvar)?

[UglaSukk]

 

[Reg2000]

7 hours ago, The Very End said:

Med andre ord, de anså det som mer nyttig å terrorisere sivilbefolkningen (aggressor) enn å verne egne grenser (forsvar)?

Det er vel ikke noe særlig tvil om at det er vestbredden Israel vil overta. Det er der bosetterne driver en form for terrorkrig. Det er der Israel bryter seg inn i hus og leiligheter hver kveld for å vise at de er der og at det er de som bestemmer. Det er der Israel sakte men sikkert presser ut folk og overtar nye områder. Israelsk media har selv skrevet mye om det.

[0laf]

Keir Starmers kone er jødisk, og de oppdrar sine barn i den jødiske tro.

[0laf]

Reg2000 skrev (1 time siden):

Det er der Israel sakte men sikkert presser ut folk og overtar nye områder. Israelsk media har selv skrevet mye om det.

Hvor blir de presset?

Den palestinske befolkningen på Vestbredden har økt fra litt over to millioner i 2004, til litt over tre millioner i dag, på 20 år, en av de høyeste befolkningsvekstene i verden.

Jeg er uenig i bosetningspolitikken, og mener den er uheldig for å forsøke å fred, men bosetningene er stort sett i områder som ikke er tidligere bebygget, i område C, som er et område palestinere generelt ikke kan ferdes i, under israelsk militær kontroll.