Russlands invasjon av Ukraina [Ny tråd, les førstepost]

[50z]

russisk militærkolonne nær Oktyabrske i Kursk regionen

 

[Simen1]

torbjornen skrev (15 timer siden):

Ikkje eit ord om Ukraina i Dagsrevyen i kveld heller.

Må det bli atomkrig for at Russland-korrespondentane til Nrk skal måtte avbryte ferien?

Norsk presse med NRK i spissen etterlater et vakuum mellom etterspørsel og tilbud på nyheter om Ukraina. Noen medier yter sånn halvveis bra med intervjuer av pensjonerte generalløytnanter og hel-elendig med intervjuer av Asle Toje som om han var en autoritet på dette. Han har vist seg som en konsekvent fjott i saken. Poenget mitt er at Norge trenger et norskspråklig nyhetsanker, et talent på historie, militær taktikk, russland m.m. som kan fylle vakuumet etter Norsk mediebransje. En Norges svar på Denys Davydov. Jeg kan tenke meg at flere personer her i tråden har potensial til å danke ut selveste NRK på Ukraina-dekningen.

[Brother Ursus]

https://www.twz.com/news-features/f-16s-delivered-to-ukraine-with-advanced-countermeasure-pods-for-self-protection

F-16s Delivered To Ukraine With Advanced Countermeasure Pods For Self-Protection

Ukraine's F-16s came with additional self-protection features that will help them survive a very dangerous battlespace.

 

As we reported on Sunday, after many months of negotiations and training of pilots and ground crews, Ukraine has finally taken delivery of its first batch of F-16 Vipers. These donated F-16AM/BM Mid Life Upgrade (MLU) configured jets represent a big leap forward in capability for the Ukrainian Air Force, but they will also be one of Russia’s top targets. While a wide array of weapons could become available to them, Ukraine’s Vipers have so far been configured strictly for air defense, but they are also equipped with a unique self-protection system that can go a long way to keeping Russian SAMs and air-to-air missiles at bay.

 

[Brother Ursus]

 

Østlige kontra vestlige militære kapabiliteter og doktrine.

[Brother Ursus]

https://www.reuters.com/world/mexico-rejects-ukraines-request-arrest-russias-putin-during-visit-2024-08-08/

Mexico rejects Ukraine's request to arrest Russia's Putin during visit

"We can't do that," President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador told reporters at a regular government press conference.

"It's not up to us."

 

Ukraine asked Mexico to arrest Putin if he attends the Oct. 1 swearing-in ceremony of President-elect Claudia Sheinbaum. The request, in a statement from Ukraine's Mexican embassy dated Aug. 7, pointed to an arrest warrant issued by the U.N.'s International Criminal Court (ICC)

 

Russia is not a member of the ICC, but Mexico is."

 

"In June, Putin congratulated Sheinbaum, a Lopez Obrador ally, on her election victory. At the time, he called Mexico a "historically friendly partner of Russia in Latin America."

 

Putin vil nok helt sikkert utebli, av flere årsaker, ikke minst at han ville fly langt gjennom internasjonalt luftrom mellom Europa og Nord-Amerika. Men det er bekymringsverdig at Mexico nå har en såpass vennlig tone overfor Russland.

[Simen1]

Brother Ursus skrev (25 minutter siden):

Russerne klager panisk over at F-16 nå flyr over vestbanken (sør for Dnipro-elven) av Kherson.

Jeg ser for meg flere muligheter for taktikken left hook, right upper cut. Dvs. dra all oppmerksomhet den ene veien og sette inn dødsstøtet fra en annen ubevoktet vinkel. Blant annet den jeg beskrev i går på aksen Vovchansk-Belgorod-Kursk. Men det kan selvsagt også skje noe i sør nå som all oppmerksomhet (elitetropper, materiell, luftvern, fly etc etc) er dras nordover. Kanskje det er nå Kerch-brua faller.

Endret 9. august av Simen1

[Brother Ursus]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/08/one-of-ukraines-toughest-and-fastest-brigades-has-joined-the-invasion-of-russia/

One Of Ukraine’s Toughest And Fastest Brigades Has Joined The Invasion Of Russia

A column of armored vehicles rolling into southern Russia’s Kursk Oblast on the third day of Ukraine’s surprise attack into Russia confirms the involvement of one of Ukraine’s best-equipped and fastest-moving brigades: the 80th Air Assault Brigade.

A video that circulated on social media on Thursday depicts a T-64BV or T-80BV tank, a UR-77 mine-clearing vehicles, an IMR-2 engineering vehicle plus BTR-80 and U.S.-made Stryker wheeled armored personnel carriers rolling past a busy Ukrainian mortar crew. All the vehicles are up-armored with anti-drone cages. Infantry crowd the top of the BTR-80.

An 82-millimeter mortar lobs a bomb at most a couple of miles. It’s clear from the context that the video captures the early moments of a serious Ukrainian assault on Russian positions.

Only the 80th Air Assault Brigade operates that mix of ex-Soviet and ex-American vehicles. Further confirmation is found in a separate video—shot by a Russian drone—depicting strikes on ex-German Marder tracked fighting vehicles in Kursk Oblast.

The 80th Air Assault Brigade, like its sister unit the 82nd Air Assault Brigade, apparently operates Marders alongside its Strykers. The Marders are heavy. The Strykers are fast. They suit the Ukrainian air assault forces’ preference for swift but powerful attacks.

The participation of the 80th Air Assault Brigade—one of the better Ukrainian brigades—underscores the scale of the Ukrainian operation just north of Ukraine’s northern border with Russia.

In the 29 months since Russia widened its war on Ukraine, pro-Ukrainian fighters have launched many raids across the border into southern Russia. But these raids have been small in scale and limited in scope—and have never lasted more than a few days. More than anything, they’ve been meant to embarrass Russian leaders.

The Ukrainian operation that kicked off on Tuesday is different. At least three brigades, each with up to 2,000 troops, are involved: the 22nd and 88th Mechanized Brigades and the 80th Air Assault Brigade. Artillery, drones and air defenses are playing critical supporting roles.

A column of armored vehicles rolling into southern Russia’s Kursk Oblast on the third day of Ukraine’s surprise attack into Russia confirms the involvement of one of Ukraine’s best-equipped and fastest-moving brigades: the 80th Air Assault Brigade.

A video that circulated on social media on Thursday depicts a T-64BV or T-80BV tank, a UR-77 mine-clearing vehicles, an IMR-2 engineering vehicle plus BTR-80 and U.S.-made Stryker wheeled armored personnel carriers rolling past a busy Ukrainian mortar crew. All the vehicles are up-armored with anti-drone cages. Infantry crowd the top of the BTR-80.

An 82-millimeter mortar lobs a bomb at most a couple of miles. It’s clear from the context that the video captures the early moments of a serious Ukrainian assault on Russian positions.

Only the 80th Air Assault Brigade operates that mix of ex-Soviet and ex-American vehicles. Further confirmation is found in a separate video—shot by a Russian drone—depicting strikes on ex-German Marder tracked fighting vehicles in Kursk Oblast.

The 80th Air Assault Brigade, like its sister unit the 82nd Air Assault Brigade, apparently operates Marders alongside its Strykers. The Marders are heavy. The Strykers are fast. They suit the Ukrainian air assault forces’ preference for swift but powerful attacks.

The participation of the 80th Air Assault Brigade—one of the better Ukrainian brigades—underscores the scale of the Ukrainian operation just north of Ukraine’s northern border with Russia.

In the 29 months since Russia widened its war on Ukraine, pro-Ukrainian fighters have launched many raids across the border into southern Russia. But these raids have been small in scale and limited in scope—and have never lasted more than a few days. More than anything, they’ve been meant to embarrass Russian leaders.

 

The Ukrainian operation that kicked off on Tuesday is different. At least three brigades, each with up to 2,000 troops, are involved: the 22nd and 88th Mechanized Brigades and the 80th Air Assault Brigade. Artillery, drones and air defenses are playing critical supporting roles.

It’s more clear by the hour that what’s happening in Kursk isn’t a raid: it really is an invasion. That the Ukrainians are pouring significant resources into this invasion doesn’t guarantee its success, of course. There might be 10,000 Ukrainian troops in and around in the invasion zone. The Russian Northern Grouping of Forces, which fights along the border zone, has around 48,000 troops.

But the Northern Grouping of Forces is bogged down in Vovchansk, a Ukrainian border town 90 miles southeast of Sudzha, the Russian border town that’s the locus of the Ukrainian invasion.

It’s apparent Ukrainian brigades deliberately crossed the border where the Northern Grouping of Forces was thinnest. “The Ukrainian defense forces’ command has successfully achieved operational surprise,” the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies noted.

Whether, and how quickly, the Northern Grouping of Forces can shift forces toward Sudzha could be the deciding factor in the outcome of the three-day-old Ukrainian invasion. If the Russians move fast, they could blunt or even reverse the Ukrainians’ gains. If they move slowly, they could lose much more of Kursk Oblast to advancing Ukrainian columns.

There’s still a significant chance the Ukrainian operation backfires on its planners. If the Ukrainian brigades outrun their artillery, air defenses and logistics, they could find themselves alone and outgunned deep inside Kursk Oblast. Kyiv is risking thousands of troops it can’t easily replace. (dette tror jeg ukrainerne er fullt klare over, og er grunnen til at de ikke avanserer mye raskere som)

But the Ukrainians aren’t just advancing fast, they’re advancing fast with serious firepower—in the form of the 80th Air Assault Brigade.

To the Ukrainian commanders’ credit, the pace and mass of their attack has startled and befuddled Russian commanders. “A noticeable delay in decision-making by the command of the enemy’s ... [northern] operational grouping indicates a misjudgment of the likely nature of the Ukrainian defense forces’ actions,” CDS concluded.

[Brother Ursus]

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-belgorod-region-drones-hit-russian-military-repair-base/

The Belgorod region: Drones hit Russian military repair base

In the city of Novy Oskol in the Belgorod region, attack drones hit a repair base of the Russian military.

The russia no context Telegram channel reported on this and published the video.

According to them, the attack of seven UAVs took place around 2 a.m. on August 9.

“Next to our Novy Oskol bus station is a repair base where our guys were repairing combat vehicles. Seven drones hit the hangar. The ground was trembling, the noise was very loud, and it was immediately clear that these were drone strikes!” eyewitnesses said.

Endret 9. august av Brother Ursus

[ps5]

Cnn har ihvertfall plukket opp ballen for en time siden:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/09/europe/russia-lipetsk-kursk-ukraine-zelensky-intl/index.html

[Brother Ursus]

 

Google-oversatt.

[trikola]

torbjornen skrev (16 timer siden):

Ikkje eit ord om Ukraina i Dagsrevyen i kveld heller.

Må det bli atomkrig for at Russland-korrespondentane til Nrk skal måtte avbryte ferien?

NRK er opptatt i Paris.

Det må vi vel ha forståelse for?

[Markiii]

Brother Ursus skrev (30 minutter siden):

https://www.reuters.com/world/mexico-rejects-ukraines-request-arrest-russias-putin-during-visit-2024-08-08/

Mexico rejects Ukraine's request to arrest Russia's Putin during visit

"We can't do that," President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador told reporters at a regular government press conference.

"It's not up to us."

 

Ukraine asked Mexico to arrest Putin if he attends the Oct. 1 swearing-in ceremony of President-elect Claudia Sheinbaum. The request, in a statement from Ukraine's Mexican embassy dated Aug. 7, pointed to an arrest warrant issued by the U.N.'s International Criminal Court (ICC)

 

Russia is not a member of the ICC, but Mexico is."

 

"In June, Putin congratulated Sheinbaum, a Lopez Obrador ally, on her election victory. At the time, he called Mexico a "historically friendly partner of Russia in Latin America."

 

Putin vil nok helt sikkert utebli, av flere årsaker, ikke minst at han ville fly langt gjennom internasjonalt luftrom mellom Europa og Nord-Amerika. Men det er bekymringsverdig at Mexico nå har en såpass vennlig tone overfor Russland.

Hva faen er galt med folk på venstresiden?

[Markiii]

Brother Ursus skrev (23 minutter siden):

In the 29 months since Russia widened its war on Ukraine, pro-Ukrainian fighters have launched many raids across the border into southern Russia. But these raids have been small in scale and limited in scope—and have never lasted more than a few days. More than anything, they’ve been meant to embarrass Russian leaders.

The Ukrainian operation that kicked off on Tuesday is different. At least three brigades, each with up to 2,000 troops, are involved: the 22nd and 88th Mechanized Brigades and the 80th Air Assault Brigade. Artillery, drones and air defenses are playing critical supporting roles.

Kan det være at de tidligere begrensede raidene inn i Russland egentlig var ment å få russerne til å slappe mer av og ikke ta angrep over grensen så seriøst?

Beklager sammenligningen, men det er jo kjent at ISIS brukte en teknikk på ofrene de henrettet, der de gjennomførte mange liksom-henrettelser først slik at offeret ble vant til det, og dermed når selve henrettelsen fant sted så trodde offeret det bare var enda en falsk henrettelse og derfor var mer avslappet/gjorde mindre motstand.

Kan Ukraina dermed bevisst ha gjennomført mindre og midlertidige angrep inn i Russland for å få Russland til å ikke ta det like seriøst når selve invasjonen ble igangsatt?

[Enceladus]

7 minutes ago, Markiii said:

Hva faen er galt med folk på venstresiden?

Altså, bare så det er sakt så burde du heller si på begge sider av det politiske spektrumet, og da helst ytterkantene.

Blir fort bråk og ugreit debattklima med denne typen ordbruk.

Endret 9. august av Enceladus

[Kahuna]

Brother Ursus skrev (50 minutter siden):

Det ser også ut til å være ukrainske styrkeoppbygninger ikke bare i nord mot Kursk, men også Kharkiv og Donetsk.

Dette gir mening, spesielt siden de russiske styrkene som forsøker å ta Kharkiv kanskje er dem som er nærmest til å komme Kursk til unnsetning. Veldig dumt at de da risikerer å svekke sitt eget frontavsnitt så mye at ukraina i verste fall kan starte en motoffensiv i retning belgorod.

[ps5]

11 minutes ago, Markiii said:

Hva faen er galt med folk på venstresiden?

Man kan ikke arrestere russiske presidenter. De må ha et hendig uhell. 

Endret 9. august av ps5

[Enceladus]

Gårsdagens Ukraine the latest podkast var medisin for sjelen:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ukraine-the-latest/id1612424182

 

Spørs om jeg ikke må finne ut hvordan man lager chatGPT sammendrag, er ofte veldig mye interessant i denne podkasten!

[Markiii]

Enceladus skrev (3 minutter siden):

Altså, bare så det er sakt så burde du heller si på begge sider av det politiske spektrumet, og da helst ytterkantene.

Blir fort bråk og ugreit debattklima med denne typen ordbruk.

Jeg forventer bedre av venstresiden enn høyresiden. Derfor reagerer jeg. Men jeg ser jo nå at venstresiden, og man trenger ikke gå altfor langt ut heller, er livsfarlig, og at de ikke må gis makt. Jeg driter i om de har fagre løfter om støtte til fattige og bla bla.. alt dette er irrelevant så lenge de støtter diktatur og brutalitet.

[bojangles]

 

 

[Markiii]

Enceladus skrev (2 minutter siden):

Gårsdagens Ukraine the latest podkast var medisin for sjelen:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ukraine-the-latest/id1612424182

 

Spørs om jeg ikke må finne ut hvordan man lager chatGPT sammendrag, er ofte veldig mye interessant i denne podkasten!

Du kan bruke denne så lenge videoen har tekstavskrift:

https://chatgpt.com/g/g-fL6Xsk6UU-free-youtube-summarizer

Det fungerer visst ikke på denne videoen.