AMD Zen 3 (Ryzen 5xxx)

[Ola Norman]

Klarte passere magiske 400 cpu average fps i SotTR med 5800x3d @ stock 4450mhz 

Om vi bare kunne finne en måte å overklokke disse cpuene på, for oss uten external clockgen for baseclock...

Tenk hva denne cpuen hadde klart @ 4.8 til 5ghz med åpen multiplier😇

[Theo343]

Minnebrikkene jeg bestilte hos  Multicom ble lenge pushet på forventet leveringsdato til butikken med 1 dag frem hver dag. Men nå står det bare et rødt kryss med "ikke på lager". Hva med kunder som har bestilt for 2-3 uker siden? Får de noe beskjed om hva som skjer?

Endret 1. mai 2022 av Theo343

[BadCat]

De pleier å sende en mail  med 1-2 måneders mellomrom.

[Theo343]

0k, da får jeg snart en mail ant 😛

[BadCat]

Hold ikke pusten, men min erfaring er at det kommer både mail og varer etter hvert.

Det har dog hendt at jeg har avbestilt da de fremdeles ikke hadde sendt lagervare etter 3 dager. "Vi kan sende snart altså, hvis det er derfor du vil kansellere."

[Cowboystrekk]

Ola Norman skrev (6 timer siden):

Klarte passere magiske 400 cpu average fps i SotTR med 5800x3d @ stock 4450mhz 

Om vi bare kunne finne en måte å overklokke disse cpuene på, for oss uten external clockgen for baseclock...

Tenk hva denne cpuen hadde klart @ 4.8 til 5ghz med åpen multiplier😇

Minnetuning for å komme over 400fps?

[Ola Norman]

Cowboystrekk skrev (3 timer siden):

Minnetuning for å komme over 400fps?

SMT disable og tweaka windows ^^

[G]

On 4/30/2022 at 1:20 PM, ExcaliBuR said:

Asus har lagt ut nye BIOSer med 1207 til C8H familien ihvertfall.

Ser ut som det har skviset det ut for stabilitetsproduktet ProArt også

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/ProArt/ProArt-X570-CREATOR-WIFI/HelpDesk_BIOS/

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Version 0801 Beta Version
2022/04/29 19.05 MBytes
PROART X570-CREATOR WIFI BIOS 0801
"1. Update AGESA version to ComboV2PI 1207.
2. Improve system stability.

alltid så beskrivende detaljer rundt disse oppdateringene, not.

 

Er dette en BIOS-oppdatering helst for å bedre cache-opplevelser for 5800X3D? Da er det vel lite vits når man har en 1.gen 5900x?

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New Microcode from AMD should unlock more performance from the company's Ryzen 7 5800X3D

Early gaming benchmark results for AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D (Source) have showcased impressive performance levels in gaming workloads, highlighting why AMD sees their 3D V-Cache technology as a solution that will regain for AMD the so-called "performance crown" in gaming workloads.

In response to a Tweet from CapFrameX, Yuri Bubliy (@1usmus), the creator of the Ryzen DRAM calculator, the Hydra overclocking utility, and ClockTuner for Ryzen (CTR), stated that AMD's upcoming AGESA 1207 microcode will "bring performance gains" to AMD's Ryzen 5800X3D processor.

Early testing for AMD's Ryzen 5800X3D used AMD's AGESA 1206B microcode, which suggests that upcoming BIOS releases with updated AMD microcode will deliver more impressive performance levels. That said, it is unknown how much this new microcode will increase the performance of AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D.

It is likely that AMD's new AGESA microcode will only deliver minor performance gains, and that these performance gains will be limited to specific workloads. The expanded L3 cache on AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D already offers users workloads-specific performance gains, and AMD's new AGESA code should not improve the Ryzen 7 5800X3D's performance in scenarios where AMD's V-Cache has no notable performance impact.

AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D is a processor that specifically targets gaming workloads, as the processor's enlarged L3 cache can only increase the performance of AMD's Zen 3 CPU cores in workloads that are memory/cache heavy. If a workload does not benefit from having more data on cache, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D will not offer gamers more performance than AMD's existing Ryzen 7 5800X. 

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/agesa_1207_microcode_will_deliver_performance_gains_for_amd_s_ryzen_7_5800x3d/1

Endret 3. mai 2022 av G

[Ola Norman]

Liten sneakpeak i Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker benchmark 

5800x3d @ stock 4450mhz MT load max

Blir å uploade flere spill resultater når jeg kommer hjem ifra jobb senere idag... Benchmark kan lastes ned her som flere har lyst å sammenligne: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/

Endret 4. mai 2022 av Ola Norman

[ExcaliBuR]

VDIMM @1.55... Vet ikke hvor holdbart dette er, men ingen random reboots på flere dager.

[Cowboystrekk]

ExcaliBuR skrev (3 timer siden):

VDIMM @1.55... Vet ikke hvor holdbart dette er, men ingen random reboots på flere dager.

Økt soc/iod som fiksa det kanskje? Ser strøkent ut nå, ras 28/rc 42 er eneste jeg kan tenke på, men går kanskje ikke? 

[Ola Norman]

Have finally completed my first game comparison between my maxed 5950x, my 5800x3d and golden samples Alderlake cpus @ ~5.6/5.7ghz 7200MT/s

 

https://imgur.com/a/TZdNAzm  vs   https://imgur.com/a/ahnY3nl

 

Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 1080p lowest:

5950x @ ~5100/5000mhz = 353fps average cpu game

12900k @ 5750mhz 7000MT/s = 375fps average cpu game

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 402fps average cpu game

 

Horizon Zero Dawn: 1080p performance preset, lowest res scale:

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 301fps average cpu game

12900k @ 5700mhz 7200MT/s = 321fps average cpu game

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 313fps average cpu game

 

F1 2020 1080p low dx11: Australia benchmark location and dry weather:

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 490 average fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 555 average fps

 

Farcry6 1080p ultra, HD-texture enabled, FSR QTY:

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 163 average fps

12900k @ 5700mhz 7200MT/s (?)= 203 average fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 176 average fps

 

Cyberpunk 2077: 1080p low 

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 252 average fps

12900k @ 5700mhz 7200MT/s = 304 average fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 268 average fps

 

Final Fantasy XV 1080p low: (game engine limited, results with grain of salt)

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 23426 score

12900k @ 5700mhz = 23585 score

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 23489 score

 

Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker 1440p maximum: (game engine limited, results with grain of salt)

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 30553 score

12900k @ 5700mhz = 33891 score

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 33764 score

 

HardwareLux Counter-Strike: Global Offensive benchmark settings: (only scale with clockspeed it seems)

12900k @ 5500mhz 4133MT/s CL16 = 954 fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 716 fps

Max tuned Alderlake beats out Zen3 in games, but i have to say i'm pretty impressed by the5800x3

...Considering zero binning/golden samples are required 5800x3d and they dont scale with memory you, so you can use a cheapo x470 together with 3200/3600MT/s memory for nice low-end gaming machine.

Endret 4. mai 2022 av Ola Norman

[Cowboystrekk]

Ola Norman skrev (På 5.5.2022 den 0.30):

Have finally completed my first game comparison between my maxed 5950x, my 5800x3d and golden samples Alderlake cpus @ ~5.6/5.7ghz 7200MT/s

 

https://imgur.com/a/TZdNAzm  vs   https://imgur.com/a/ahnY3nl

 

Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 1080p lowest:

5950x @ ~5100/5000mhz = 353fps average cpu game

12900k @ 5750mhz 7000MT/s = 375fps average cpu game

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 402fps average cpu game

 

Horizon Zero Dawn: 1080p performance preset, lowest res scale:

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 301fps average cpu game

12900k @ 5700mhz 7200MT/s = 321fps average cpu game

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 313fps average cpu game

 

F1 2020 1080p low dx11: Australia benchmark location and dry weather:

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 490 average fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 555 average fps

 

Farcry6 1080p ultra, HD-texture enabled, FSR QTY:

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 163 average fps

12900k @ 5700mhz 7200MT/s (?)= 203 average fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 176 average fps

 

Cyberpunk 2077: 1080p low 

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 252 average fps

12900k @ 5700mhz 7200MT/s = 304 average fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 268 average fps

 

Final Fantasy XV 1080p low: (game engine limited, results with grain of salt)

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 23426 score

12900k @ 5700mhz = 23585 score

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 23489 score

 

Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker 1440p maximum: (game engine limited, results with grain of salt)

5950x @ ~5100mhz = 30553 score

12900k @ 5700mhz = 33891 score

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 33764 score

 

HardwareLux Counter-Strike: Global Offensive benchmark settings: (only scale with clockspeed it seems)

12900k @ 5500mhz 4133MT/s CL16 = 954 fps

5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 716 fps

Max tuned Alderlake beats out Zen3 in games, but i have to say i'm pretty impressed by the5800x3

...Considering zero binning/golden samples are required 5800x3d and they dont scale with memory you, so you can use a cheapo x470 together with 3200/3600MT/s memory for nice low-end gaming machine.

Du har minneskalering enkelte steder da, bare ikke i SOTTR. Bpde FC6, Riftbreaker og HM3 får ca 5% bedre ytelse 1080p high ved å gå fra 3200 til 3800 xmp. Ser dog ut som timings har mindre å si, men båndbredde teller i ca halvparten av spillene. Er du heldig å har en som greier 4000-4200 uten/minimalt WHEA19 kan du få enda litt mer. Dog er vell 5800X3D den CPUen hvor ram har minst å si sammenligna pga enorm L3 cache. 

En ser det samme på Intel, jo mer L3 cache, jo mindre har ramtuning å si. 

12900K er 17% raskere enn 12600K xmp, mens differansen er 12% tweaket. Klokke hastighet virker og litt inn, men minne har mest å si. 

Litt ironisk at billigere prosessorer bør har den beste og dyreste rammen, mens dyre prosessorer har mindre behov

[Ola Norman]

Have done a full comparison between my 5800x3d and my 5950x in all the different 3dmarks at max clocks 
Pretty happy with the results as i got multiple rank#1 with Nvidia+5800x3d combo  (eventho i'm limited to 100mhz baseclock = 4450mhz max multithread)

Night Raid score = 72331 points

• Graphics Score 171771
• CPU Score 16898

Wild Life score = 124195 points

Wild life Extreme = 52837 points

Fire Strike = 41882 points

• Graphics Score 55490
• Physics Score 30370
• Combined Score 18446

Fire Strike Extreme = 26505 points

• Graphics Score 28705
• Physics Score 30422
• Combined Score 14995

Fire Strike Ultra = 14864 points

• Graphics Score 14992
• Physics Score 30318
• Combined Score 8130

Time Spy = 20891 points

• Graphics Score 23182
• CPU Score 13393

Time Spy Extreme = 10322 points

• Graphics Score 12056
• CPU Score 5687

Port Royal = 15879 points

As a comparison, here are my 3090 numbers with the 5950x:

Port Royal = 16 050 @ I scored 16 050 in Port Royal

• Graphics Score = 16050

TIME SPY = 22 666 @ I scored 22 666 in Time Spy

• Graphics Score = 23 449
• CPU Score = 19 062

TIME SPY EXTREME = 12 180 @ I scored 12 180 in Time Spy Extreme

• Graphics Score = 12 258
• CPU Score = 11 760

FIRE STRIKE = 43 513 @ I scored 43 513 in Fire Strike

• Graphics Score = 49 613
• Physics Score = 44 674
• Combined Score = 22 188

FIRE STRIKE extreme = 27 138 @ I scored 27 138 in Fire Strike Extreme

• Graphics Score = 27 940
• Physics Score = 44 267
• Combined Score = 15 113

FIRE STRIKE ULTRA = 15 072 @ I scored 15 072 in Fire Strike Ultra

• Graphics Score = 14 796
• Physics Score = 44 514
• Combined Score = 8 140

5800x3d is much stronger in real games than 3dmark would lead you to believe as seen here:
(the "CPU benchmarks" in 3dmark are pretty much render tests with little correlation to a real gaming workloads)

Spoiler

 

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Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 1080p lowest

• 5950x @ ~5100/5000mhz = 353fps average cpu game
• 12900k @ 5750mhz 4300MT/s CL14 = 373fps average cpu game
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 402fps average cpu game

Horizon Zero Dawn: 1080p performance preset, lowest res scale:

• 5950x @ ~5100mhz = 301fps average cpu game
• 12900k @ 5580mhz 7160MT/s CL30 = 321fps average cpu game
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 313fps average cpu game

F1 2020 1080p low dx11: Australia benchmark location and dry weather:

• 5950x @ ~5100mhz = 490 average fps
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 555 average fps

Farcry6 1080p ultra, HD texture enabled, FSR QTY:

• 5950x @ ~5100mhz = 163 average fps
• 12900k @ 5580mhz 7160MT/s CL30 = 203 average fps
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 176 average fps

Cyberpunk 2077: 1080p low

• 5950x @ ~5100mhz = 252 average fps
• 12900k @ 5580mhz 7160MT/s CL30 = 304 average fps
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 268 average fps

Final Fantasy XV 1080p low : (game engine limited, results with grain of salt)

• 5950x @ ~5100mhz = 23426 scores
• 12900k @ ~5700mhz(?) = 23585 scores
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 23489 scores

Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker 1440p maximum : (game engine limited, results with grain of salt)

• 5950x @ ~5100mhz = 30553 scores
• 12900k @ ~5700mhz(?) = 33891 scores
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 33764 scores

HardwareLux Counter-Strike: Global Offensive benchmark settings : (only scale with clockspeed it seems)

• 12900k @ 5500mhz 4133MT/s CL16 = 954fps
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 716 fps

Metro Exodus benchmark: 1080p low:

• 5950x @ ~5100mhz = 322 average fps
• 12900k @ 5580mhz 7160MT/s CL30 = 408 average fps
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 338 average fps
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz, dx11 = 524 average fps

Metro Exodus Enhanced Benchmark: 1080p low:

• 12900k @ 5580mhz 7160MT/s CL30 = 250 average fps
• 5800x3d @ 4450mhz = 237 average fps

 

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[Theo343]

Minnebrikkene jeg bestilte fra Multicom i starten av april er fortsatt sporløst forduftet. Blir lite spilling denne våren og sommeren  Tåler ikke mer enn 10min i riftbreaker på 1066. Heldigvis fungerer kontorarbeid og labbing helt greit.

Endret 5. juni 2022 av Theo343

[guttorm]

I 2018 var det skikkelige kjøleribber på rammen....Hva skjedde på veien tro.

[ExcaliBuR]

Uten at jeg er ekspert: nodene som brukes er mer modne samt RGB fikk vel prioritet 🤣

[Kennet_H]

Er Alle am4 plattformer fortsatt plaget med USB  bug? Er det evt noen HK/chipsett som er mindre plaget? Å hvor utbredt er dette problemet?

 

[Theo343]

Mener å huske at B550 er "minst" plaget. Men jeg har ikke kjørt utstyr som har vist issues. USB Headset har fungert helt fint men har ikke kjørt ekstern lagring eller HMD. Reddit vet som regel mest.

Endret 5. juni 2022 av Theo343

[_R2D2_]

Kjører bl.a 3 stk IcyBox USB harddisk kabinetter (4stk 3.5 disker i et kabinett) på mitt Asrock B550M hovedkort (HTPC/Stue PC), ikke hatt noe USB problemer på mitt oppsett.

Endret 5. juni 2022 av _R2D2_