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ExcaliBuR skrev (10 timer siden):

@Cowboystrekk, hehe, du har en helt annen Windows install enn meg.

Landet, enn så lenge håper det holder, på dette:

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Det ser bra ut, ble 240 RFC ustabilt? Du trenger trolig litt over 1.5V om du skal kjøre det. Middels binna B-die som de jeg har må ha nesten 1.5V for å greie 140ns, gode kits som det du har kan greie 130ns eller lavere på RFC på 1.5V.

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@Cowboystrekk, jeg trodde 240 var det som gjorde det ustabilt, men som det ser ut nå var det fordi jeg pushet tras og trc for lavt. Så jeg kan prøve 240 igjen.

Maskina oppleves som stabil og rask i responsen på 256 ihvertfall 😃

Annen merknad: PBO manuelt på enabled eller advanced, og/eller litt negativ curve optimizer gir regresjon i ytelse.

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Jeg har en merkelig AMD chipset driver opplevelse. Ser ut som om at Asus Armoury Crate forsøker å pushe på meg en beta-driver som AMD ikke har sluppet ut på sin egen chipset driver support side:

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Armoury Crate til venstre og AMD sin nettside til høyre

Fant dette om nyversjonen:

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 even though AMD hasn't publicly announced it yet. The new chipset driver 3.10.22.706 apparently brings an updated Ryzen power management plan with version 7.0.4.4 and adds a new I2C ((Inter-Integrated Circuit) controller driver.

Perhaps most importantly, the driver fixes an error that was causing inaccuracies related to hardware-based deepest run-time idle platform state (HW DRIPS) readings when Virtualization-based Security (VBS) would be enabled. DRIPS is the lowest available power state that the system can run at.

As VBS was already known to hurt the performance of Ryzen CPUs, it might be possible that the new chipset driver fixes this performance issue too. However, it is entirely speculation since neither third-party tests nor AMD has confirmed this.

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https://www.neowin.net/news/new-amd-chipset-driver-31022706-for-windows-11-fixes-vbs-related-issues/

Denne artikkelen er fra tidlig november 2021. Det har tatt tid og AMD har fortsatt ikke sluppet den nye versjonen. Hvorfor det montro? Nærmer seg "farlig" 4 mnd.

Edit:

Jan 5, 2022

I just installed the latest AMD chipset driver version 3.10.22.706 in my system. I noticed some odd things,
The AMD power plans are no longer listed in the Control Panel, Power Options settings. Found out that they were removed with the latest drivers because AMD now recommends you use the standard Windows power plans in the settings (when used with a Ryzen 5000 series CPU. Older Ryzen CPUs will still retain the previous functions and settings.)
Before, when I selected Power Saver plan, the CPU would slow down to about 1800 MHz. Now the CPU is stuck at 4000 MHz on all cores.
When selecting High Performance, the CPU is stuck at 4000 MHz on all cores when running Prime95 or Cinebench 20 (i.e. the CPU clock speed is set at 4000 MHz no matter what setting is selected. and never deviates from that clock setting). Under the old plans, the CPU would clock at about 4300 MHz on all cores with some cores hitting 5000 MHz.
Performance actually increased. Cinebench 20 used to score 9600 with the old drivers. With the new drivers, the score increased to 10200, an increase of 5%.
The CPU package temps used to hit 75 degrees but now peaks at 63 degrees.
In short, the new chipset package offers higher overall performance by running all cores at a consistent clock speed. The older drivers would have various clock speeds from anywhere from 3200 MHz to 5000 MHz when under stress. My guess is that the difference in clock speeds is inefficient in overall timings.

 

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AMD Power Plans are deprecated for Ryzen 5000. You don't need them...and in fact they work really quite well with Windows' Balanced Power plan.

Power Saver seems to inhibit aggressive boosting, which is what you're seeing.

Just run the Balanced power plan. Open the Power and Sleep settings applet and you can select whether more or less energy/performance is your preference.

I think this all came about with the release of Windows 11 and Microsoft wanting things certain ways. At first Win11 mucked up Ryzen 5000performance. I wouldn't doubt that's why AMD removed their power plans with the update to chipset drivers.

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/odd-better-behavior-after-installing-latest-amd-chipset-drivers-version-3-10-22-706-for-amd-5950x.3743323/

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Herregud hva er det Asus driver på med? Jeg har et ProArt hovedkort som skal bygge på stabilitet, også har de som førstevalg en beta-bios:

Version 0602 Beta Version
2022/02/09 18.95 MBytes
PROART X570-CREATOR WIFI BIOS 0602
"1.Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b

Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (PAX570CW.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.

Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usability of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS."

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/ProArt/ProArt-X570-CREATOR-WIFI/HelpDesk_BIOS/

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ExcaliBuR skrev (På 21.2.2022 den 21.35):

Ved å senke VDIMM til 1.48 og har VSOC, VDDP og VDDG på auto så har feilrate blitt eliminert.

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Det er bra, ville dog testa litt lavere vddp og iod og se hvor lavt du kan gå uten feil. De spiser endel av kjernebudsjettet ditt og drar opp temp. 

Ang pbo+curve optimizer: Prøv +0, sett limits på auto og bruk kun curve optimizer. Finner du riktige verdier skal ytelsa i multicore gå opp, temp/forbruk på lav last skal gå ned. Bruker du +MHz på pbo kan du få redusert ytelse, ikke pga pbo i seg selv, men temp. Ryzen 5000 er veldig tempsensitiv, å gå fra 60C til 80C senker kjernefrekvens med over 200MHz med samme forbruk. 

Hos meg i cinebench med pbo+co, 76W limit:

Stock kjøler: 80C, 4.4GHz

Bequiet Dark rock slim: 72C, 4.55GHz

Noctua D15: 67C, 4.625GHz

Allcore stock ligger rundt 1.15-1.17v, med CO ligger den på 1.12-1.14v, men sistnevnte ca 300MHz høyere, temp ca identisk. 

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Interessant. Fant dette som sikkert er typisk for en del Asus bios-er:

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I updated my Dark Hero to bios 4004 and was surprised when a screen popped up saying it was going to update the Aura controller firmware. It sure would be nice is Asus would mention this is the bios release notes, which basically say nothing other than "Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b" and the ever present "Improve system performance and stability". You would think that something as critical as the bios would have copious details of what has changed. Instead we get "Improve system performance and stability" which is meaningless.

https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-rog-x570-crosshair-viii-overclocking-discussion-thread.1728796/page-530

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