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Frankrike utvider sitt portforbud, fra tidligere 20:00 gjelder nå portforbudet over hele Frankrike fra 18:00 til 06:00.
Portforbudet vil gjelde i minst 15 dager.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210114-covid-19-france-to-introduce-6pm-curfew-for-at-least-15-days-from-saturday


Danmark har oppdaget sitt første tilfelle av den Sør-Afrikanske mutasjonen

https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2021-01-16-foerste-tilfaelde-af-sydafrikansk-coronavariant-fundet-i-danmark


I Storbritannia anslås R-tallet å fremdeles være 1.2-1.3, slik at selv med tiltak så øker spredningen hver dag.
Det er tegn til at det går noe bedre i London, mens enkelte andre steder fremdeles har stor spredning.

Samtidig utrykker 72% av Englands fargede befolkning at de ikke ønsker å ta vaksine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/16/covid-vaccine-black-people-unlikely-covid-jab-uk

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DaniNichi skrev (28 minutter siden):

Jeg vet også at NHS klager vært jævla år over at de ikke har nok plasser til influensa pasienter..

2019.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/02/nhs-winter-crisis-extra-beds-created-by-52-per-cent-of-uk-hospitals

2017

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/sep/24/winter-flu-crisis-hospitals-overstretched

2013

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/444955/Not-enough-beds-to-cope-with-winter-flu-bug-NHS-chiefs-warn

Vet også at vi har hatt ca nesten året på oss øke antall plasser her i Norge så hvis det ikke er gjort så shame on them.

 

Hadde du lest artikkelen til Pc Lynet ville du sett denne grafen:

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0laf skrev (4 minutter siden):

Samtidig utrykker 72% av Englands fargede befolkning at de ikke ønsker å ta vaksine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/16/covid-vaccine-black-people-unlikely-covid-jab-uk

Kanskje ikke noe genetisk med ac2 receptorene men heller det at folk fra Afrika og sentral Asia ikke stoler på myndighetene. Dette er jo English Defense Leauge sin våteste drøm. De fargede utslettet seg selv. Her må myndighetene komme på banen med informasjons kampanjer. 

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13 hours ago, Pc Lynet said:

Det stemmer nok.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/scientific-brief-emerging-variants.html

Om nåværende vaksine ikke vil fungere er ikke testet enda, men dette er som Kryptodebunker sier en veldig mutert utgave som fort kan føre til at vaksinene får mindre effekt. Heldigvis kan mRNA vaksinene til Pfizer og Moderna kodes om på 6 uker. Ulempen er at da må alle som er vaksinert allerede få en ny dose med Brasil varianten.

 

Legg til at Manaus hadde over 70% av befolkningen sin infisert ved første bølge. Mye som tyder på at e484k unngår oppnådd immunitet 

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Gjest 9eec7...594 skrev (24 minutter siden):

Et ubrukelig tall når Kina ikke frigir sine egentlige dødsfall.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.28.20116012v2

Anonymous poster hash: 9eec7...594

Jeg tror man lett kunne doblet antall døde av koronaviruset. Problemet er bevisst skjuling av dødsfall men også mangel på testing i uland og Vesten i våres. 

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Background China’s COVID-19 statistics fall outside of recognized and accepted medical norms. Here we estimated the incidence, death and starting time of the COVID-19 outbreak in Wuhan and China based on cremation related information.

Methods Data sources included literature on COVID-19 in China, official Chinese government figures, state-run and non state-run media reports. Our estimates are based on investigative media reports of crematory operations in Wuhan, which is considered as a common data end point to life. A range of estimates is presented by an exponential growth rate model from lockdown (Jan 23,2020) until the intervention started to show effects, which was estimated 14.5 days after lockdown.

Results For the cumulative infections and total deaths, under different assumptions of case fatality rates (from 2.5% to 10%) and doubling time 6.4 days, the estimates projected on February 7, 2020 in Wuhan range from 305,000 to 1,272,000 for infections and from 6,811 to 7,223 for deaths - on the order of at least 10 times the official figures (13,603 and 545). The implied starting time of the outbreak is October 2019. The estimates of cumulative deaths, based on both funeral urns distribution and continuous full capacity operation of cremation services up to March 23, 2020, give results around 36,000, more than 10 times of the official death toll of 2,524.

Conclusions Our study indicates a significant under-reporting in Chinese official data on the COVID-19 epidemic in Wuhan in early February, the critical time for response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Denne er fra mai 2020. Kina ble avslørt i fjor høst:

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That same day, Chinese authorities reported 2,478 new confirmed cases -- raising the total global number to more than 40,000, with fewer than 400 cases occurring outside of mainland China. Yet CNN can now reveal how official documents circulated internally show that this was only part of the picture.

 

In a report marked "internal document, please keep confidential," local health authorities in the province of Hubei, where the virus was first detected, list a total of 5,918 newly detected cases on February 10, more than double the official public number of confirmed cases, breaking down the total into a variety of subcategories. This larger figure was never fully revealed at that time, as China's accounting system seemed, in the tumult of the early weeks of the pandemic, to downplay the severity of the outbreak.

 

The previously undisclosed figure is among a string of revelations contained within 117 pages of leaked documents from the Hubei Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention, shared with and verified by CNN.

 

Taken together, the documents amount to the most significant leak from inside China since the beginning of the pandemic and provide the first clear window into what local authorities knew internally and when.

 

The Chinese government has steadfastly rejected accusations made by the United States and other Western governments that it deliberately concealed information relating to the virus, maintaining that it has been upfront since the beginning of the outbreak. However, though the documents provide no evidence of a deliberate attempt to obfuscate findings, they do reveal numerous inconsistencies in what authorities believed to be happening and what was revealed to the public.

The documents, which cover an incomplete period between October 2019 and April this year, reveal what appears to be an inflexible health care system constrained by top-down bureaucracy and rigid procedures that were ill-equipped to deal with the emerging crisis. At several critical moments in the early phase of the pandemic, the documents show evidence of clear missteps and point to a pattern of institutional failings.

One of the more striking data points concerns the slowness with which local Covid-19 patients were diagnosed. Even as authorities in Hubei presented their handling of the initial outbreak to the public as efficient and transparent, the documents show that local health officials were reliant on flawed testing and reporting mechanisms. A report in the documents from early March says the average time between the onset of symptoms to confirmed diagnosis was 23.3 days, which experts have told CNN would have significantly hampered steps to both monitor and combat the disease.

China has staunchly defended its handling of the outbreak. At a news conference on June 7, China's State Council released a White Paper saying the Chinese government had always published information related to the epidemic in a "timely, open and transparent fashion."

"While making an all-out effort to contain the virus, China has also acted with a keen sense of responsibility to humanity, its people, posterity, and the international community. It has provided information on Covid-19 in a thoroughly professional and efficient way. It has released authoritative and detailed information as early as possible on a regular basis, thus effectively responding to public concern and building public consensus," says the White Paper.

CNN has reached out to China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and National Health Commission, as well as Hubei's Health Commission, which oversees the provincial CDC, for comment on the findings disclosed in the documents, but received no response.

Health experts said the documents laid bare why what China knew in the early months mattered.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/asia/wuhan-china-covid-intl/index.html

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(CNN)Nearly half a million residents in the Chinese city where the novel coronavirus first emerged may have been infected with Covid-19 -- almost 10 times its official number of confirmed cases, according to a study by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

 

The study used a sample of 34,000 people in the general population in Wuhan -- the original epicenter of the pandemic -- and other cities in Hubei province, as well as Beijing, Shanghai, and the provinces of Guangdong, Jiangsu, Sichuan and Liaoning to estimate Covid-19 infection rates.

 

The researchers found an antibody prevalence rate of 4.43% for Covid-19 among residents in Wuhan, a metropolis of 11 million people. As of Sunday, Wuhan had reported a total of 50,354 confirmed cases of Covid-19, according to the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/29/asia/china-coronavirus-seroprevalence-study-intl-hnk/index.html

 

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Oddvardm skrev (5 timer siden):

Litt mer klinisk info

 

Veldig interessant om rate, alvorlighet og smittefare ved reinfeksjon. Det kan tyde på at dersom vi ikke blir kvitt viruset helt så vil det på sikt (etter vaksinasjoner) bli en forholdsvis ufarlig sykdom som går sine sesongrunder omtrent som influensa. Altså at det kun er nå ved første infeksjonsrunde det er virkelig alvorlig. Men jeg krysser selvsagt fingrene for at vi klarer å utrydde viruset.

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Simen1 skrev (13 minutter siden):

Veldig interessant om rate, alvorlighet og smittefare ved reinfeksjon. Det kan tyde på at dersom vi ikke blir kvitt viruset helt så vil det på sikt (etter vaksinasjoner) bli en forholdsvis ufarlig sykdom som går sine sesongrunder omtrent som influensa. Altså at det kun er nå ved første infeksjonsrunde det er virkelig alvorlig. Men jeg krysser selvsagt fingrene for at vi klarer å utrydde viruset.

Tviler på at viruset blir utrydda..menneskeheten har kun klart det med kopper 

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Kryptodebunker skrev (9 minutter siden):

For en tulling... 


Tegnell og Sveriges myndigheter gjør nå sitt ytterste for å skrive om historien, hvor strategien plutselig har blitt lik alle andres, hvor strenge tiltak ble innført, og hvor de aldri diskuterte flokkimmunitet.

Problemer er selvfølgelig at det finnes e-poster og intervjuer fra i fjor våres, hvor de sier det motsatte, samt at alle med lengre enn hukommelse enn noen måneder vet at det er løgn.

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0laf skrev (8 timer siden):


Tegnell og Sveriges myndigheter gjør nå sitt ytterste for å skrive om historien, hvor strategien plutselig har blitt lik alle andres, hvor strenge tiltak ble innført, og hvor de aldri diskuterte flokkimmunitet.

Problemer er selvfølgelig at det finnes e-poster og intervjuer fra i fjor våres, hvor de sier det motsatte, samt at alle med lengre enn hukommelse enn noen måneder vet at det er løgn.

Aner vi litt 'spinn doktori' her? En media konsulent med spesialfelt innen 'brannslokking'?

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Kryptodebunker skrev (37 minutter siden):

Betydelig bedre enn å utsette Kinas 1.3 milliarder mennesker for ett forferdelig virus. Kina forstår hva som står på spill. Ikke slik som her i Norge og Europa der myndighetene sov i timen før det var for sent. 

Vet ikke hvor effektivt (ikke for å si miljøskadelig) den strategien som vises i tweeten er? Har vel sett bilder med tankbiler med uteliggere som sprøyter gud vet hva på alt og alle.

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