Kommunikasjon ved sex

[oscrue10]

Jeg synes ikke at det er en gyldig sammenligning. Alle i en husstand må normalt bidra med husarbeid, selv om man ikke liker det, men man må ikke for eksempel gi blowjobs, være med på fotballkamper eller dra i operaen.

[Red Frostraven]

​Konkret trening på å få henne til å ta initiativ til å suge:

Ligg i L-form i sengen.

​Sidelengs inn på henne, ansikt til ansikt.

​Kyss henne.
​Kyss nakken, brystet, magen, lårene, oppå trusa -- og få henne til å virkelig virkelig ønske å bli slikket -- mens skrittet ditt fremdeles er nærmere hodet hennes enn musa.
​Da går dere fra L til II -- dere ligger parallelt. 
​Fra den posisjonen, "opp ned" relativt til skrittet hennes, så må du ligge ganske nærme henne med beina for å komme til musa -- og skrittet ditt er nærme ansiktet hennes.

​Hvis du slikker henne, sakte og forsiktig og kjærlig, og masserer og kjærtegner lår og rumpe og kjønnshår og gjør det beste du kan for å hale ut tiden og gjøre henne kåt og ekstremt villig, uten å la henne komme, så skal det ærlig talt nærmest autisme til for at hun ikke i det minste skal ta tak og runke deg, eller lene seg inn med munnen sin for å gjengjelde totalt.
​Hvis hun ikke tar hintet så kan du rulle henne over deg, slik at hun kan presse musa inn i fjeset ditt -- og hun ligger med ansiktet over skrittet ditt.

​Forspill er også ganske viktig, for å få hodet hennes ut av "hverdagsmodus" og inn i "slutty bitch"-modus.
"Pliktsex" kalles det når hun er i hverdagsmodus.
​Om du får henne inn i "slutty bitch" modus, så blir ting lettere. Fortell henne gjerne midt på dagen at du skal knulle henne på kvelden.
​Eller at du vil ha 69.

​...men du må trene henne opp.
Jenter er som hunder slik sett.
 

 

Jeg synes ikke at det er en gyldig sammenligning. Alle i en husstand må normalt bidra med husarbeid, selv om man ikke liker det, men man må ikke for eksempel gi blowjobs, være med på fotballkamper eller dra i operaen.

 

Den eneste vesentlige forskjellen på vennskap og kjæresteforhold, er sex og intimitet.

​Akkurat nå i livet ville jeg dumpet en jente som ikke klarer å lære seg å bruke munnen;
​Det finnes ikke en eneste naturlig ikke-voldelig ting jeg ikke er villig å gjøre for kjæresten min -- og forventer minst halvparten av denne viljen til å tilfredsstille tilbake.

Endret 19. august 2017 av Red Frostraven

[Leo_]

Jeg synes ikke at det er en gyldig sammenligning. Alle i en husstand må normalt bidra med husarbeid, selv om man ikke liker det, men man må ikke for eksempel gi blowjobs, være med på fotballkamper eller dra i operaen.

Nei, man kan selvsagt bare bytte ut partneren, få seg en partner man er mer kompatibel med.

[InToRv]

 

Livet er alt for kort til å ha dårlig sex med fast partner. Snakk med hun og still noen krav. Sex skal ikke kun foregå på hennes premisser, det blir bare trist.

 

Mener du at de som ikke vil gi blowjobs skal bli presset til det? Og hvor stor glede har en mann av dette når man vet at hun "hater" det?

 

Om du leser litt mellom linjene til det jeg skrev, og prøver å forstå hva jeg egentlig vil frem til, istedenfor å kverrulere på tull, så ville du kanskje forstått hva jeg mener.Jeg vet at det er alt for mange gutter der ute som finner seg i dårlig sex, eller enda verre, dårlige forhold for å få seg litt dårlig sex. Det er ikke sunt, det er ikke verdt det, det er bare patetisk og dårlig for begge parter i det lange løp. 

 

Det er alt for mange som jakter "short-term happiness" og blir fanget i dårlige forhold der de til slutt blir små beta menn som hater livet sitt, men priser seg for at de ihvertfall får seg noe, og har en dame som ihvertfall til tider elsker dem og behandler dem deretter.

[oscrue10]

"Snakk med hun og still noen krav". Det jeg svarte på, og det er den kommentaren du heller ikke forklarer eller forsvarer nå. Vil påstå at det siste innlegget ditt har svært lite med dette krav-sitatet å gjøre.

 

Jeg har antatt at kravene luftes for henne, ikke at man bare tenker dette i sitt stille sinn og gjør det slutt hvis hun ikke viser mer interesse for disse tingene.

[*F*]

Her passer det ser forøvrig å dra opp et relevant innlegg fra bodybuilding.com som jeg kom over for en tid tilbake

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=133931371

 

 

 

This is long, there are no cliffs, and it is worth the read. 

Why your wife/girlfriend needs to suck your dick.

This might be hard to believe; I know a lot of you have spent your life being told that men and women are equal. You've probably 'dated' a girl, casually, while still living in separate places and all that jazz. You might still believe in this equality bull****. But let me tell you how things are going to go.

You are going to meet a girl and you are going to like her. You'll want to spend time with her, you'll want to bang her. At some point, while you are spending time with her and banging her (or possibly before) either she'll ask you 'Where this is going' or you'll ask her out because you want to 'stake your claim'. Either way, you'll be 'dating'.

After a while, but most often when your life's situation changes...after college for most, when you two are ready to settle down, but could be earlier; it'll just 'make sense' to move in together. Hell you might even jump straight to marriage.

When you are casually dating, you might not notice the inequalities...they are tiny.
Sure, you pay for more than your fair share of stuff and you do more than your fair of stuff for her. She tends to have more problems than you and she never can really help with your problems anyway. When there are favors, more often than not, she'll be the one requesting them and you'll just happen to be the one better suited to do them.

But you aren't together all that often, you hardly notice/hardly mind.

But just wait. Once you are together...you'll see. For the vast majority of guys (STATISTICAL FACT - SCREW OFF FEMINAZIs) are going to make more money than their girl, they are going to spend more time at work than their girl, they are going to DO MORE for their girl, they are going to spend more on their girl.

In this day and age, you'll be lucky if your girl cooks dinner. Most girls seem to think equality means sharing the 'girl chores' and letting you do all the guy chores. When it's time to move into a new place, you'll see who is carrying all the **** (YOU ARE). When it comes to money, you'll see who is getting screwed (YOU ARE). Etc, etc, etc....

Women are attracted to a lot in a man, and a lot of that is long term relationship crap like how good of a Father you will be, how you are able to 'provide' for your family and that jazz.

Men, want a girl who is hot and will suck on our dicks. That's about it.

As you age, your girl won't be hot. If you get married at 25 and die at 75; for HALF of your marriage your girl is going to be a nasty ass 50+ year old lady.

You....you on the other hand will continue to make more money, spend more money, put in more time and effort than your single male equivalents to provide a better life for you wife and your children. Married men put in more hours than women or single men. You'll be expected to keep busting your ass from marriage until retirement to buy her ****.

My point is, guys bring a hell of a lot more to the table than women in a typical relationship. If your girl won't suck your dick now, when she's young, fit, and hot....you've really got to ask yourself what kind of long term investment she is? If she's not a long term thing; why not be having flings with slutty chicks who are freaks in bed? Dump her. If she is a long term thing....why? Why would you stay with a chick who is unwilling to let you enjoy one of the best things a guy can enjoy? She won't let you do it with any other chicks...right? But she won't do it to you? A BJ make take 30 minutes. 30 little minutes of mild unpleasantness (assuming she doesn't like it)....30 minutes of a slightly sore jaw....and that is too much for her to give you?

It says a whole lot about how she really feels.

And if she feels that way now, believe me, it won't change. But she, and all of society, is going to expect you to keep raising that bar. Go ask a married guy over 30 or a divorced guy over 30 just how much having a woman costs these days. Seriously. Every guy I've ever talked to will agree - they'd have a butt load more money and do a butt load less bull**** if not for their wives.
Why give up all that for a chick who can't be bothered enough to suck your dick?

I've seen it happen, I've even had it happen. It's not that girls are evil, it's that they believe what society told them. Watch a chick flick...sit down and watch ANY CHICK FLICK and keep a pad of a paper and write down everything stupid the girl does and everything stupid the guy does. And then, notice how, at the end of the movie the guy runs back to the girl - almost always he gives up something he loves, to do so. Even though the girl did far more bull**** stuff. That's what girls 'think' is 'right'. They really think you should *owe* them, just for them letting you f**** them whenever they are in the mood.

Here's what you do. $30 dollars an hour is the equivalent of $60k a year. 60k a year for an unskilled job with no qualifications is UNHEARD OF. That is the ABSOLUTE MOST you should ever consider paying for a blow job. If it typically takes you 30 minutes to bust a load...that is $15 dollars a blow job. That's the ****ING MAXIMUM....but get this, because I'm the nicest f***ing guy on the planet (and you will be too) - double it. You are going to pay your girl an AMAZING 120k salary for dick sucking. That works out to $30 dollars for a 30 minutes blow job.

So get a notebook, or better yet; get Excel. And you write down EVERYTHING you spend on your chick and you write down EVERYTHING she spends on you. Even with modern chicks who 'pay' you'll find that you are paying 70% of the time, or more. My girl pays me $400 dollars a month in rent; but 'half' of the rent/utilities here would mean she should be paying me $700 dollars. That means, each month - not even looking at anything else, she owes me $300 dollars. That's 10 ****ing blow jobs.

On top of that, each week we go out to dinner and movie; or maybe just rent some flicks and stay in. I pay 3/4ths of the time...and that **** adds up fast. Minimum of another $200 dollars a month.

On top of that, big item purchases always come from me - and it's not just me - it'll be you too, in a few years. New kitchen - 3k, hell I paid 14k when I bought the house. That's a ****-ton of blow jobs.

A CONSERVATIVE estimate is that my girl is averaging a net gain of about $800 dollars a month. And in the other non-monetary ways you can measure this ****, I still do more than her. When we moved, my ass carried the heavy ****; because I'm the guy. When we go shopping, I carry all her ****, again, because I'm the guy. When she's got a problem, I listen to her, because I'm the guy. When I have a problem, I deal with my own ****. I can't remember the last thing I asked her to do for me, but I can tell you 5 things she's asked me (that I've been more than happy to do) JUST since the 1st of the month.

When it comes to sex, she likes it just as much as I do. That's a wash. It's a tie. I don't get anything more than she does.
What the hell can she possibly do to make up the imbalance?

SUCK SOME DICK

When you look at it logically, it's a complete and utter joke that this is even an issue for any guy in any typical guy/girl relationship. So, seriously, don't sit back and be like 'Oh, whatever, I can live the rest of my life without a blow job'. Go tell your girl straight up, how it is, and how it is going to be. My girl gets ALL THAT; at least $800 dollars a month in cash she shouldn't have, and all the other **** I do above and beyond the **** she does for me....and all I want in return is some dick sucking. That's it. In let's face it, in 10 years she'll be a middle aged soccer mom. In 20 years there is no way in hell she'll still be hot. I'm giving her the ****ing deal of a lifetime here, and all she has to do is give me a weekly blow job and I'm happy.

Jesus ****ing christ - that is an amazing deal for her. 30 minutes of sucking the dick of the man you supposedly love and want to marry; and in exchange you get all that? I'm sorry, but, I just don't care how small her mouth is or how bad it tastes. 2 hours a month for $800 dollars (+)...that is $400 dollars an hour. That works out to a salary of 800k a year. That is more money than she can make any where else. When you look at it like this, logically, with actual values....if your girl isn't sucking your dick and if half of what I said applies to you; you should be OUTRAGED.

Explain it to her, hell print this out and give it to her. I was in your shoes 6 months ago or so and I finally just said, 'No more of this ****. If you love me, if you love what I give you and what I do for you, if you really want to be with me for the rest of our lives....you can ****ing deal with a sore mouth for 30 minutes every week. And if you get good at it, it'd only take 20'. My girl got pissed as ****.

And then she sucked my dick.

[oscrue10]

Holdningen er helt på trynet, og som jeg var inne på tidligere, så er det ikke mye vits med bj mot hennes vilje, men sikkert først og fremst ment som underholdende lesning.

[tom waits for alice]

 

And then she sucked my dick.

 

 

 

No, she didn't. 

 

Geir

[Gjest Slettet-lYlo5C]

Jeg tar aldri intiativ til å suge, men gjør det hver gang han spør. Handler egentlig ikke om at jeg ikke liker det eller prøver å være kjip, men får egentlig litt prestasjonsangst av hele greia. Innser at jeg kanskje må begynne å ta litt intiativ til det selv, siden jeg vet han liker det og jeg egentlig ikke har grunn til å ha prestasjonsangst.