Oppgradere Macbook Pro 13" mid 2009

[Kaggen]

Hei

 

Ettersom min Macbook Pro 13" mid 2009 (med 2,53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo og 4GB RAM) lenge har vært treg vurderer jeg sterkt å oppgradere med dobbel RAM (8 GB, som er maks.), SSD-disk og nytt batteri (som knapt har kapasitet lenger). Vil det svare seg iom. at maskinen er fem år gammel?

 

Etter skolestart i høst har jeg fått behov for å kjøre program som Autocad, Multisim og LabView, og det er det som gjør at jeg enten må kjøpe ny maskin eller oppgradere MBPen.

Endret 2. desember 2014 av Kaggen

[Kongeskipet]

Jeg mistenker at det kan være prosessor som er den store flaskehalsen her, jeg har nemlig samme prosessor og like mye RAM i min studenPC. Og det er kun takket være den CAD-optimaliserte GPUen at den fortsatt klarer Solidworks nokså greit.

 

Basert på programmene du nevner tipper jeg at du kjører Windows? Hvis du åpner Resource Monitor så kan du følge med på hva som er flaskehalsen akkurat når du føler det går treigt. Tallene du skal se på er "CPU usage", "Highest Active time" og "Used physical memory".

 

Og hvis du kjører powersaver eller annen strømsparingsmodus må du skru det av. Prøv å sette den i High Performance.

Endret 2. desember 2014 av Kongeskipet

[Kaggen]

Takk for svar! Så langt har jeg greid meg uten Multisim og har derfor ikke brukt Windows selv om jeg har det liggende inne.

 

Etter å ha forsket litt ser det ut som det er RAMen som kneler mest. CPUen har 80% inaktiv kraft når jeg har Chrome som eneste åpne program der jeg har 13 faner oppe og 25% til overs når jeg reloader en av disse. RAMen har 3,88 GB i bruk på samme tid. Har tatt et par tester med EtreCheck som jeg kan lime inn her.

 

Jeg kjører ingen powersavers av noe slag.

 

 

 

EtreCheck version: 2.1.6 (109)

Report generated 20. januar 2015 14:43:47 CET

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Hardware Information: ℹ️

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009) (Technical Specifications)

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,5

1 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

4 GB RAM Upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Battery Health: Replace Now - Cycle count 1071

 

Video Information: ℹ️

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

Color LCD 1280 x 800

S27D391 spdisplays_1080p

 

System Software: ℹ️

OS X 10.9.5 (13F34) - Time since boot: one day 16:38:11

 

Disk Information: ℹ️

WDC WD5000BEKT-75KA9T0 disk0 : (500,11 GB)

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

[redacted] sin Macbook (disk0s2) / : 424.00 GB (142.40 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB

BOOTCAMP (disk0s4) /Volumes/BOOTCAMP : 75.25 GB (5.86 GB free)

 

HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS23N

 

USB Information: ℹ️

Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Logitech USB Receiver

Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

 

Configuration files: ℹ️

/etc/sysctl.conf - Exists

 

Gatekeeper: ℹ️

Anywhere

 

Problem System Launch Agents: ℹ️

[running] com.paragon.NTFS.notify.plist [support]

 

Problem System Launch Daemons: ℹ️

[failed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist

 

Launch Agents: ℹ️

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist [support]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [support]

[loaded] com.paragon.updater.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist [support]

[running] org.chromium.chromoting.plist [support]

 

Launch Daemons: ℹ️

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [support]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [support]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [support]

[loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist [support]

 

User Launch Agents: ℹ️

[running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist [support]

 

User Login Items: ℹ️

iTunesHelper Program (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

Autodesk 360 Program (/Applications/Autodesk/Autodesk 360.app)

Day-O Program (/Users/[redacted]/Downloads/Day-O/Day-O.app)

witchdaemon UNKNOWN (missing value)

Dropbox Program (/Applications/Dropbox.app)

HyperDock Helper Program (/Library/PreferencePanes/HyperDock.prefpane/Contents/Resources/HyperDock Helper.app)

Android File Transfer Agent Program (/Users/[redacted]/Library/Application Support/Google/Android File Transfer/Android File Transfer Agent.app)

witchdaemon Program (/Library/PreferencePanes/Witch.prefPane/Contents/Helpers/witchdaemon.app)

 

Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

WidevineMediaOptimizer: Version: 6.0.0.12757 - SDK 10.7 [support]

FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 16.0.0.257 - SDK 10.6 [support]

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

Flash Player: Version: 16.0.0.257 - SDK 10.6 [support]

Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.7 - SDK 10.6 [support]

JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 25 Check version

 

3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️

remoting_host_prefpane [support]

Flash Player [support]

HyperDock [support]

Java [support]

Paragon NTFS for Mac ® OS X [support]

Witch [support]

 

Time Machine: ℹ️

Time Machine not configured!

 

Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️

7% WindowServer

3% Spotify

1% coreaudiod

1% sysmond

0% Google Chrome

 

Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

180 MB Google Chrome

82 MB Airmail 2

76 MB Google Chrome Helper

64 MB Finder

64 MB com.apple.IconServicesAgent

 

Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

56 MB Free RAM

1.36 GB Active RAM

1.31 GB Inactive RAM

642 MB Wired RAM

12.72 GB Page-ins

1.90 GB Page-outs

 

Diagnostics Information: ℹ️

Jan 20, 2015, 02:19:19 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Installer_2015-01-20-141919_[redacted].crash

Jan 20, 2015, 01:24:55 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/fontd_2015-01-20-132455_[redacted].crash

Jan 18, 2015, 10:06:16 PM Self test - passed

Jan 17, 2015, 10:44:48 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/BezelUIServer_2015-01-17-224448_[redacted].crash

Jan 17, 2015, 10:30:21 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/node-webkit Helper_2015-01-17-223021_[redacted].crash

Jan 17, 2015, 10:29:02 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/node-webkit_2015-01-17-222902_[redacted].crash

 

 

 

 

 

EtreCheck version: 2.1.6 (109)

Report generated 21. januar 2015 09:30:37 CET

Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

 

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Hardware Information: ℹ️

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009) (Technical Specifications)

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,5

1 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

4 GB RAM Upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Battery Health: Replace Now - Cycle count 1071

 

Video Information: ℹ️

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

Color LCD 1280 x 800

 

System Software: ℹ️

OS X 10.9.5 (13F34) - Time since boot: 0:46:23

 

Disk Information: ℹ️

WDC WD5000BEKT-75KA9T0 disk0 : (500,11 GB)

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

[redacted] sin Macbook (disk0s2) / : 424.00 GB (142.11 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB

BOOTCAMP (disk0s4) /Volumes/BOOTCAMP : 75.25 GB (5.86 GB free)

 

HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS23N

 

USB Information: ℹ️

Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Logitech USB Receiver

Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

 

Configuration files: ℹ️

/etc/sysctl.conf - Exists

 

Gatekeeper: ℹ️

Anywhere

 

Problem System Launch Agents: ℹ️

[running] com.paragon.NTFS.notify.plist [support]

 

Launch Agents: ℹ️

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist [support]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [support]

[loaded] com.paragon.updater.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist [support]

[running] org.chromium.chromoting.plist [support]

 

Launch Daemons: ℹ️

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [support]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [support]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [support]

[loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist [support]

 

User Launch Agents: ℹ️

[running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist [support]

 

User Login Items: ℹ️

iTunesHelper Program (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

Autodesk 360 Program (/Applications/Autodesk/Autodesk 360.app)

Day-O Program (/Users/[redacted]/Downloads/Day-O/Day-O.app)

witchdaemon UNKNOWN (missing value)

Dropbox Program (/Applications/Dropbox.app)

HyperDock Helper Program (/Library/PreferencePanes/HyperDock.prefpane/Contents/Resources/HyperDock Helper.app)

Android File Transfer Agent Program (/Users/[redacted]/Library/Application Support/Google/Android File Transfer/Android File Transfer Agent.app)

witchdaemon Program (/Library/PreferencePanes/Witch.prefPane/Contents/Helpers/witchdaemon.app)

 

Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

WidevineMediaOptimizer: Version: 6.0.0.12757 - SDK 10.7 [support]

FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 16.0.0.257 - SDK 10.6 [support]

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

Flash Player: Version: 16.0.0.257 - SDK 10.6 [support]

Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.7 - SDK 10.6 [support]

JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 25 Check version

 

3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️

remoting_host_prefpane [support]

Flash Player [support]

HyperDock [support]

Java [support]

Paragon NTFS for Mac ® OS X [support]

Witch [support]

 

Time Machine: ℹ️

Time Machine not configured!

 

Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️

11% Google Chrome

8% WindowServer

4% Dropbox

1% mds_stores

0% sysmond

 

Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

202 MB Google Chrome

150 MB Google Chrome Helper

52 MB mds_stores

26 MB WindowServer

21 MB Dropbox

 

Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

98 MB Free RAM

1.34 GB Active RAM

1.24 GB Inactive RAM

594 MB Wired RAM

2.27 GB Page-ins

41 MB Page-outs

 

Diagnostics Information: ℹ️

Jan 21, 2015, 08:44:50 AM Self test - passed

Jan 20, 2015, 02:19:19 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Installer_2015-01-20-141919_[redacted].crash

Jan 20, 2015, 01:24:55 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/fontd_2015-01-20-132455_[redacted].crash

 

 

 

Endret 21. januar 2015 av Kaggen

[Kongeskipet]

Synes det var veldig mye minnebruk i forhold til antall faner. Er det bare Chrome som tar minnet, eller er det noe annet også? Hvor mye RAM-bruk har du etter maskinen er startet og før du starter noen programmer?

 

Har du forsøkt å bytte nettleser og se om det samme skjer der?

 

Min Windows-maskin har tilnærmet identiske spesifikasjoner (CPU/RAM/HDD). Der forsøkte jeg å se hvor mye RAM jeg fikk til å bruke i Firefox, og hadde dobbelt så mange faner uten at jeg kom under 1,2GB tilgjengelig RAM. Blant de fanene var det mange nyhetsforsider med masse reklame/flash og noen kart i tillegg til streetview. Jeg følte heller ikke at det gikk noe særlig treigere enn ved få faner.

 

Testen min var riktignok på rask linje, så jeg merker ikke så fort om noe av cachen forsvinner og må lastes ned på nytt. Firefox er nok ganske beskjeden når det gjelder å holde på minne.

 

Du kan selvfølgelig oppgradere RAM. Da må du kjøpe 2 stk 4GB-brikker av rette typen. Men hvis det skyldes en feil/minnelekasje i en nettside eller program, så kan du være så uheldig at den fortsatt bruker opp alt minnet. Derfor synes jeg det er lurt å feilsøke litt først.

[Kaggen]

Etter jeg har startet opp maskinen og ikke startet programmer har jeg 2,57 GB brukt og 1,43 GB ledig..https://www.dropbox.com/s/igc0z4ef326pwvh/Screenshot%202015-01-22%2010.18.16.png?dl=0

 

 

 

EtreCheck version: 2.1.6 (109)

Report generated 22. januar 2015 10:12:02 CET

Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

Click the [support] links for help with non-Apple products.

Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

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Hardware Information: ℹ️

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009) (Technical Specifications)

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,5

1 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

4 GB RAM Upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Battery Health: Replace Now - Cycle count 1071

Video Information: ℹ️

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

Color LCD 1280 x 800

System Software: ℹ️

OS X 10.9.5 (13F34) - Time since boot: 0:5:38

Disk Information: ℹ️

WDC WD5000BEKT-75KA9T0 disk0 : (500,11 GB)

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

[redacted] sin Macbook (disk0s2) / : 424.00 GB (142.00 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB

BOOTCAMP (disk0s4) /Volumes/BOOTCAMP : 75.25 GB (5.86 GB free)

HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS23N

USB Information: ℹ️

Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Logitech USB Receiver

Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Configuration files: ℹ️

/etc/sysctl.conf - Exists

Gatekeeper: ℹ️

Anywhere

Problem System Launch Agents: ℹ️

[running] com.paragon.NTFS.notify.plist [support]

Launch Agents: ℹ️

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist [support]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [support]

[loaded] com.paragon.updater.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist [support]

[running] org.chromium.chromoting.plist [support]

Launch Daemons: ℹ️

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [support]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [support]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [support]

[loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist [support]

[not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist [support]

User Launch Agents: ℹ️

[running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist [support]

User Login Items: ℹ️

iTunesHelper Program (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

Day-O Program (/Users/[redacted]/Downloads/Day-O/Day-O.app)

witchdaemon UNKNOWN (missing value)

Dropbox Program (/Applications/Dropbox.app)

HyperDock Helper Program (/Library/PreferencePanes/HyperDock.prefpane/Contents/Resources/HyperDock Helper.app)

Android File Transfer Agent Program (/Users/[redacted]/Library/Application Support/Google/Android File Transfer/Android File Transfer Agent.app)

Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

WidevineMediaOptimizer: Version: 6.0.0.12757 - SDK 10.7 [support]

FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 16.0.0.257 - SDK 10.6 [support]

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

Flash Player: Version: 16.0.0.257 - SDK 10.6 [support]

Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.7 - SDK 10.6 [support]

JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 25 Check version

3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️

remoting_host_prefpane [support]

Flash Player [support]

HyperDock [support]

Java [support]

Paragon NTFS for Mac ® OS X [support]

Witch [support]

Time Machine: ℹ️

Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️

9% mds

7% WindowServer

6% mdworker

1% fontd

0% ocspd

Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

86 MB mds_stores

86 MB Dropbox

43 MB CalendarAgent

39 MB Activity Monitor

39 MB Dock

Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

2.09 GB Free RAM

1.05 GB Active RAM

430 MB Inactive RAM

459 MB Wired RAM

854 MB Page-ins

0 B Page-outs

Diagnostics Information: ℹ️

Jan 22, 2015, 10:06:59 AM Self test - passed

Jan 21, 2015, 11:36:25 AM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/accountsd_2015-01-21-113625_[redacted].crash

Jan 20, 2015, 02:19:19 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Installer_2015-01-20-141919_[redacted].crash

Jan 20, 2015, 01:24:55 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/fontd_2015-01-20-132455_[redacted].crash

 

 

Når jeg deretter starter Chrome med 7 faner har jeg 3,99 GB brukt og 0,01 GB ledig. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxslpdo9qyf0sag/Screenshot%202015-01-22%2010.19.40.png?dl=0

 

Deretter lukker jeg Chrome og åpner Safari med 7 faner. Det ender med 3,07 GB brukt. https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jridqvf6hrnj1s/Screenshot%202015-01-22%2010.24.48.png?dl=0

Endret 22. januar 2015 av Kaggen

[Kongeskipet]

For meg virker det som det kanskje er noe galt med Chrome siden den har så mange prosesser. Ville forsøkt å reinstallere Chrome, eller eventuellt sett etter om det er en nettsidene som får chrome til å oppføre seg merkelig.

 

Synes også det var litt mye med 2,6GB brukt av bare OS før du starter programmer, men så kjenner jeg ikke til hvordan OSX pleier å oppføre seg.

[Kaggen]

Bestemte meg for å kjøpe en SSD og nye rambrikker for å se hvordan det påvirket systemet og eventuelt levere tilbake om det ikke hjalp. Raskere ble det, men den lugger fortsatt litt... Nå vurderer jeg sterkt å heller kjøpe ny maskin (Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 ).