Den russiske aggresjonen mot Ukraina

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Conflict Reporter @Conflict_Report · 1h

#BREAKING RUSSIAN INVASIN FORCES #DRONE PICTURE FROM A RECENT ARTILLERY / MLRS ATTACK ON #DONETSK #AIRPORT

 

Peter Grönlund @PeterGrnlund1 · 3h

Picture via: @pravda_1 3 Blind Mice Misson of @OSCE, still cant see who is shelling Donetsk Airport?! #OSCE

Peter Grönlund @PeterGrnlund1 · 2h

Incredible that @OSCE ruled by RU-veto: who is part of conflict: Organisation is hampered & can not full-fill misson, need to be desolved!

Endret 24. september 2014 av arthon

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Peter Grönlund @PeterGrnlund1 · 52m

via @uatodaytv Facebook removes "Cargo 200" site after pressure from Kreml. Information making impact on public!

 

Ruthen ‏@RutheniaRus 21h

RETWIT! @facebook blocked the account documenting Facts of Russian Invasion into Ukraine https://www.facebook.com/groups/gruz200 HELP #stopRussianAggression

GorseFires Collectif ‏@GorseFires 21h

@RutheniaRus @facebook Could have something to do with this? #Zuckerberg #Medvedev #ContentNotFound pic.twitter.com/s0nLHjcwDy

svarun ‏@svarun_01 48m

@PeterGrnlund1 @uatodaytv Color me surprised. There is no worse sell-out than Zuckerberg. Fuck @facebook pic.twitter.com/a0aRojIRiN

 

Euromaidan Press @EuromaidanPress · 14h

Petition FB to get group Cargo200 exposing Russian soldiers KIA in #Ukraine back https://www.facebook.com/events/692174934201512/?context=create&source=49 …

 

Endret 24. september 2014 av arthon

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Dette er hva som skjer med Jødene i Ukraina

 

Før den Russiske invasjonen:

 

 

Etter den Russiske invasjonen:

 

 

 

 

Lurer på hva de Russiske spinndoktorene sier, er disse Jødene også nazier?

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Utenriksministerens uttalelse var på bakgrunn av å prøve å forklare den voldsomme sprengkraften på missiler som Russiske styrker skjøt mot flyplassen i Luhansk - og som vanlig var det en journalist som tok uttalelsen ut av sammenhengen.

 

Hva slags sammenheng du snakker om er litt uklart, men kanske du kan forklare det for oss ?

 

En vanlig konvensjonell sprengladning lager ingen atomsopp, og skaper helller ingen resultater som dette.

 

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/report-russia-uses-tactical-nuclear-weapon-at-luhansk-airport

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Teit spørsmål.

Om det var en Nuke som blei brukt ville det ikke være mange flere beviser for at det var nettop det en bare en sopp og en svært kraftig eksplosjon?

Radioaktivt nedfall, kraftig EMP som slår ut elektronikk i nærheten blandt annet.

Om det var en Nuke må værdens etteretningstjenester vite om det for sånt noe kan måles.

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Utenriksministerens uttalelse var på bakgrunn av å prøve å forklare den voldsomme sprengkraften på missiler som Russiske styrker skjøt mot flyplassen i Luhansk - og som vanlig var det en journalist som tok uttalelsen ut av sammenhengen.

 

Hva slags sammenheng du snakker om er litt uklart, men kanske du kan forklare det for oss ?

En vanlig konvensjonell sprengladning lager ingen atomsopp, og skaper helller ingen resultater som dette.

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/report-russia-uses-tactical-nuclear-weapon-at-luhansk-airport

Videoene her har ingen relasjon til den kjernefysiske påstanden.

Videoene viser en eksplosjon i en kjemisk fabrikk som visstnok produserer sprengstoff og det er sprengstoff lageret som går i luften.

 

Den kjernefysiske påstanden kom på bakgrunn av at Luhansk flyplass som Ukrainske tropper hadde hatt kontroll på under daglige bombardementer fra starten av krigen måtte gies opp etter at Russiske tropper bombet med mye kraftigere skyts og sprengkraft.

 

Det nevnes Tyulpan 2S4 mortar system. Disse kan også utstyres med kjernefysisk ladning.

 

In particular, the forces of the Russian Federation made two impact of self-propelled mortar 2S4 “Tulip” in Lugansk airport.

It is for this reason that our military had left him.

Blows were so powerful that “completely destroyed the building from the fifth floor to the basement” – described the minister.

Teit spørsmål.

Om det var en Nuke som blei brukt ville det ikke være mange flere beviser for at det var nettop det en bare en sopp og en svært kraftig eksplosjon?

Radioaktivt nedfall, kraftig EMP som slår ut elektronikk i nærheten blandt annet.

Om det var en Nuke må værdens etteretningstjenester vite om det for sånt noe kan måles.

Du tenker i retning Atombombe som f.eks. de som ble sluppet over Japan og var på 4 tonn med en sprengkraft på 12.5 tonn TNT.

 

I tilfelle Ukraina er det snakk om kjernefysiske ladninger i rakettvåpen eller Tanks som kan skyte selv-propellerende (er det noe godt norsk ord for "rocket-propelled grenade launcher"?) granat skytere.

Som Tyulpan 2S4 mortar system som nevnes i linken over........

 

 

Disse vil ikke nødvendigvis lage en "atom sopp" - Uran her er brukt for å øke sprengkraften uten å øke vekten og størrelsen på ammunisjonen.

 

Denne typen kjernefysiske våpen vil mest sannsynlig bli brukt mye av hvis det skulle komme til krig melom NATO og Russland.

 

Må ikke blandes sammen med "Uran enriched ammunition" som brukes i konvensjonell ammunisjon.

Endret 26. september 2014 av arthon

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Teit spørsmål.

Om det var en Nuke som blei brukt ville det ikke være mange flere beviser for at det var nettop det en bare en sopp og en svært kraftig eksplosjon?

Radioaktivt nedfall, kraftig EMP som slår ut elektronikk i nærheten blandt annet.

Om det var en Nuke må værdens etteretningstjenester vite om det for sånt noe kan måles.

Du tenker i retning Atombombe som f.eks. de som ble sluppet over Japan og var på 4 tonn med en sprengkraft på 12.5 tonn TNT.

 

I tilfelle Ukraina er det snakk om kjernefysiske ladninger i rakettvåpen eller Tanks som kan skyte selv-propellerende (er det noe godt norsk ord for "rocket-propelled grenade launcher"?) granat skytere.

Som Tyulpan 2S4 mortar system som nevnes i linken over........

 

 

Disse vil ikke nødvendigvis lage en "atom sopp" - Uran her er brukt for å øke sprengkraften uten å øke vekten og størrelsen på ammunisjonen.

 

Denne typen kjernefysiske våpen vil mest sannsynlig bli brukt mye av hvis det skulle komme til krig melom NATO og Russland.

 

Må ikke blandes sammen med "Uran enriched ammunition" som brukes i konvensjonell ammunisjon.

 

Nå blei ting litt uklart her.

Sier du at taktiske kjernefysiske våpen med Uran som du nå snakker om ikke omfatter kjernefysisk spalting når den går av??

For med spalting så får man svært skadelige biprodukter som gammastråling og radioaktivt nedfall.

Endret 26. september 2014 av perpyro

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Nå blei ting litt uklart her.

Sier du at taktiske kjernefysiske våpen med Uran som du nå snakker om ikke omfatter kjernefysisk spalting når den går av??

For med spalting så får man svært skadelige biprodukter som gammastråling og radioaktivt nedfall.

Ja - det er "to forskjellige kjernefysiske våpen".

En er det som kalles kjernfysisk våpen som f.eks. atombomber, raketter utstyrt med kjernefysiske stridshoder og granater med kjernefysisk ammunisjon.

De har overlegen sprengkraft.

 

Så har man "konvensjonell" ammunisjon som bruker "Depleted Uranium"(Google; depleted uranium ammunition) og som er brukt av USA i Afghanistan og Irak.

 

Disse etterlater seg også stråling, men på et mye lavere nivå enn Plutonium basert kjernefysisk våpen.

Endret 26. september 2014 av arthon

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Ukrainske spesialstyrker finner en pro-Russisk sabotasjegruppe i en bunker i Mariupol............

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Ja - det er "to forskjellige kjernefysiske våpen".

En er det som kalles kjernfysisk våpen som f.eks. atombomber, raketter utstyrt med kjernefysiske stridshoder og granater med kjernefysisk ammunisjon.

De har overlegen sprengkraft.

 

Så har man "konvensjonell" ammunisjon som bruker "Depleted Uranium"(Google; depleted uranium ammunition) og som er brukt av USA i Afghanistan og Irak.

 

Disse etterlater seg også stråling, men på et mye lavere nivå enn Plutonium basert kjernefysisk våpen.

 

OK da forstår jeg tror jeg, man benytter Uran til noe annet en dets kjernefysiske egenskaper.

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Fant denne i går men ler fortsatt hver gang jeg detter over den.

 

Jeg er imponert over de som holder flyplassen og mege uponert over russerne som ikke klarer å ta den med tanke på at den står høyt på "to do" lista deres.

Endret 26. september 2014 av perpyro

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Fant denne i går men ler fortsatt hver gang jeg detter over den.

 

Jeg er imponert over de som holder flyplassen og mege uponert over russerne som ikke klarer å ta den med tanke på at den står høyt på "to do" lista deres.

Ja, på tross av "våpenhvile" så bomber de flyplassen daglig.

Det samme gjaldt flyplassen Luhansk før Russland satte inn store skyts.

 

Dette er en fin illustrasjon som viser at hadde ikke Russland sendt tropper og våpen til Ukraina så hadde denne krigen vært over for mange måneder siden.

 

Det ble jo egentlig bevist i Juni og Juli når den Russiske kommandanten Igor Girkin/Strelkov flere ganger gav video intervju hvor han klaget over at selv i en millionby som Donetsk så klarte han ikke å få selv noen tusen Ukrainere til å kjempe for "separatist saken".

Det viser hvor få Ukrainere som er involvert blant de Russiske terroristene.

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Her er noen linker som jeg postet i en annen tråd.............

Om den siste gigantiske Russiske militærøvelsen nå i September;

Is Russia making preparations for a great war?

 

Soldatmødre boikottes av russisk TV

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Ukraina gir ikke opp.................

Conflict Reporter @Conflict_Report · 30m

#GoodLuck! 200 more marines from #Lviv go to the east of #Ukraine to face the Russian hordes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VXizpfGa-w … pic.twitter.com/jLpC05Q9l4

 

 

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bellingcat @bellingcat · Sep 24

Video Comparison Confirms the Buk Linked to the Downing of #MH17 Came From Russia https://bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2014/09/24/video-comparison-confirms-the-buk-linked-to-the-downing-of-mh17-came-from-russia/ …

 

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UkrainianNationalist @UANationalists · 6h

Portnikov: #Kremlin “using #Katyn strategy” to cover own crimes in #Ukraine http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/25/portnikov-kremlin-using-katyn-strategy-to-cover-own-crimes-in-ukraine/ …

UkrainianNationalist @UANationalists · 6h

#Russian mercenaries raped two girls in #Luhansk http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/24/russian-mercenaries-raped-two-girls-in-luhansk/ …

natalia davydova @natalianickol · 6h

#Russia's MP asks Roscomnadzor to remove all pro-Ukrainian wordings eg 'annexation of Crimea' from Russian @Wikipedia http://izvestia.ru/news/577180

Anglo-Bendera @mct171 · 6h

MP of Russian state Duma Mizulina wants all jews in Russia to be deported to Israel #liveuamap pic.twitter.com/gSELTD9iUp http://liveuamap.com/en/2014/26-september-mp-of-russian-state-duma-mizulina-wants-all …

Dmytro Potekhin @d_po · 18h

Yes, im fnly free frm 48 days of capture in Donetsk. Tnks 2 all who took care. Pls dont frgt abt ​those still in danger.

Conflict News @rConflictNews · 7h

Footage of #Donetsk airport being bombarded by artillery fired by #Russian or Pro Russian forces last night.

http://youtu.be/yR3MpCH1rZY

Endret 26. september 2014 av arthon

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Skyttergrav krig - Ukrainske styrker blir angrepet nær Donetsk - "våpenhvile".........

raging.me @raging545 · 6h

BATTLE FOOTAGE #Ukraine Battalions under attack @ the front lines #Donetsk http://bit.ly/1rpdvIb #Mariupol #luhansk pic.twitter.com/ASvG3yyev9

http://youtu.be/m3jKaRslsyw

Endret 26. september 2014 av arthon

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/world/europe/ukraine-prisoner-swaps-russian-separatists.html?_r=2

 

Ukraine Picks Motley Group to Exchange for Prisoners

By ANDREW E. KRAMER

SEPT. 24, 2014

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Ukrainian Army prisoners cleaned up a building damaged by shelling, guarded by unseen fighters of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, in Snizhne, Ukraine. Credit Mauricio Lima for The New York Times

DONETSK, Ukraine — At first glance, the prisoner swap between the Ukrainian government and pro-Russian separatists appeared fair enough: On a deserted stretch of highway along the front line, each side released 28 captives, observing a principle of numerical parity.

Under the watchful eyes of mediators from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the prisoners walked past one another to freedom.

Then the questions started to pop up. The pro-Russian separatists — who with the aid of the Russian Army routed the Ukrainians in battles in August, taking many captives — released men appearing to be actual prisoners of war.

The Ukrainians, however, widely understood to be lacking enough prisoners of their own to effect a one-for-one exchange, set free a motley group of men, women and teenagers wearing tracksuits or dirty jeans, and taken, they said, from jails as far away as Kiev.

Soon enough, many of them were objecting to anybody who would listen there on the highway that they had never fought for pro-Russian separatists, and in fact had no idea how they ended up in a prisoner exchange in eastern Ukraine.

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Pro-Russian separatists were seen on a bus after being exchanged for Ukrainian soldiers on the outskirts of Yasinovataya. Credit Mauricio Lima for The New York Times

“I am a civilian and I was included just to fill out the numbers,” Nikita Podikov, 17, said in an interview. Ukrainian soldiers arrested him in a town near the front lines two weeks ago as they pulled back during a retreat, he said.

Mr. Podikov said the authorities accused him of belonging to a gang of pro-Russian assassins working behind enemy lines, but never gave any proof. “I never fought, I never killed anybody,” he said.

“They arrested me, beat me for two days and then kept me for trading,” he said. On Sunday, he wound up in a prisoner swap of 27 men and one woman, only seven of whom were rebel fighters.

In interviews at their point of release and in a dormitory where former detainees are housed in Donetsk, a dozen men freed in exchanges over the weekend by the Ukrainian Army gave similar accounts.

Some said they were arrested months ago in other parts of Ukraine for pro-Russian political actions, such as joining protests calling for autonomy in eastern Ukraine or for distributing leaflets.

The prisoner exchanges now taking place daily in eastern Ukraine are helping to solidify a fragile truce by building trust between negotiators and bringing relief to detainees and their families. The process is also emphasizing the scale of the Ukrainian setbacks and Kiev’s lack of leverage on a host of issues, including prisoner swaps, left open in the Sept. 5 cease-fire agreement that ended hostilities.

The agreement required both sides to free all prisoners, but the separatists, holding hundreds of regular Ukrainian soldiers, are demanding one-for-one swaps that they are using to free people jailed in western Ukraine for political activities and other nonmilitary reasons.

An elaborate weighing of the exchange rate for prisoners takes place on both sides in preparation for such swaps. On both sides, said Vladimir Ruban, a retired Ukrainian officer and senior negotiator, the prisoners are divided into several categories, each valued differently, such as civilians arrested in protests, prisoners of war, and suspected spies.

Officers, snipers, suspected spies and soldiers with grave wounds that need immediate treatment are deemed the most valuable in trades, negotiators say.

“Just as we forgot how to fight, we forgot how to exchange prisoners, and so we are now learning this art again,” Mr. Ruban said. “It’s a new experience.”

 

Ukraine Crisis in Maps

A common trade appears to be one Ukrainian private for one pro-Russian political agitator arrested during protests in Ukraine last spring outside the Donetsk or Luhansk regions.

Mr. Ruban has negotiated more complex deals. Earlier this year, for example, Igor Bezler, a rebel commander who went by the nickname Bes, or the Devil, traded 17 Ukrainian officers for one woman, Olga Koligina, whose value to him was something of a mystery. “It is more difficult than a simple bank transaction,” Mr. Ruban said.

Ukrainian officials have issued conflicting figures on the numbers of Ukrainian soldiers in captivity.

On Friday, Semen Semenchenko, the commander of the Donbass battalion, wrote on his Facebook page that 853 Ukrainian soldiers remained in rebel hands and 408 were missing in action. On Tuesday, Mr. Ruban’s group, called Officer Corpus, a nongovernmental organization of retired military officers negotiating releases, reported that 504 Ukrainian soldiers remained in captivity.

In Sunday’s trade, the buses stopped on the highway a few hundred yards apart, their headlights shining in the deepening twilight, artillery explosions booming in the distance.

Oksana Bilozir, a former member of the Ukrainian Parliament engaged in hostage negotiations on behalf of the Kiev government, walked across the front line to check lists with a separatist counterpart, before the prisoners went free.

One man released by the Ukrainian Army, Oleg Furman, 43, said he was a soldier for the Luhansk People’s Republic, one of the rebel groups here. The Ukrainians suspected he was a sniper, he said, and so broke his trigger finger, which was still cocooned in gauze bandages.

His special value may have helped the trade, he said, though he denied he was a sniper. “I’m fine other than having five broken ribs and a broken finger,” he said.

More typical of those released over the weekend was Valery Ginsberg, a businessman from Kiev, who was let loose on the highway in a swap on Saturday.

In an interview, he said he had never been to Donetsk. In Kiev, he was indeed known as a supporter of closer economic ties with Russia. He had been arrested on a pretext, he said.

“They traded us like cattle,” he said. “I’m a citizen of Ukraine. How can they do this? I would have proved my innocence. I wanted to prove my innocence. But they never asked me.”

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/war-crimes-committed-by-ukraines-military-in-donbass-from-illegal-arms-trafficking-to-human-organs-trade/5404389 War Crimes Committed by Ukraine Military in Donbass: From Illegal Arms Trafficking to Human Organs Trade

By Alexander Donetsky

Global Research, September 26, 2014

Strategic Culture Foundation

Region: Russia and FSU

Theme: Crimes against Humanity

In-depth Report: UKRAINE REPORT

Numerous reports on systematic destruction of populated areas in the Donbass and Luhansk regions by Ukrainian military have been becoming public domain. The evidence has been plentiful: photos, videos, international observers and journalists’ reports.

Neither the United States nor Europe have paid attention to this information as they considered it to be part of the «Kremlin’s propaganda». Western media outlets have painted the use of internationally banned arms and warfare tactics as legal means of waging war against terror.

Now the OSCE has to recognize the fact that the crimes have been committed by Ukrainian military and National Guard battalions. For instance in the use of non-conventional weapons, the execution of civilians and the torture of prisoners. According to the report by Amnesty International, the servicemen of the Aydar battalion practiced kidnapping and torture of civilians. Some time ago international observers discovered mass graves of tortured people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those who live in Donbass have many times reported «mysterious graves» findings. Two movable crematoriums have been bought in Germany to get rid of the bodies. The burnt soldiers were reported to be missing in action. Many corpses have been burnt without registration and leaving any trace whatsoever.

On September 23, 332 Ukrainian military were put into a grave near Dnepropetrovsk without identifying the names of the deceased. Only 22 names were known. On September 22, in Zaporozhye 55 unrecognized corpses of Ukrainian soldiers were buried. In Dnepropetrovsk 11 more unrecognized servicemen, who had lost their lives in Ilovaisk, were put into grave.

The atrocities committed by Neo-Nazi (Right Sector) militants need to be described more in detail. Alexander from Donetsk has spent a few weeks in prison. He says they beat him up the first two days without asking questions. Then they used force during interrogations passing him from one organization to another. He did not know anything to share and finally ended up in the hands of the Ukraine’s Security Service. «They put a sack on my head and started to beat me with their legs. Still I was happy to be a prisoner of the Security Service because I knew they would not kill me while asking questions».

 

 

 

 

The OSCE observers discovered the mass grave near the 22-th Kommunarka mine in Lower Jug. Presumably, civilians were shot by the soldiers of the battalion Aydar. The victims were treated inhumanely, many bodies had hands tied behind their back, and they were shot in the back of the head at close range. One body belonged to a pregnant woman, the other female corpse was decapitated. The traces of torture are clearly visible, murder scheme is the same: hands tied behind the back, shot in the head. Self-defense militia forces managed to find four locals and six Ukrainian soldiers buried. Mass graves were found near Telmanovo, Yenakievo, Starobeshevo and many more in other settlements. Some graves were well hidden. In general, the pattern is similar everywhere: signs of decapitated bodies, bullet wounds, severed limbs.

 

 

 

 

Reports from Ukrainian military hospitals suggest that in some cases human organs were extracted and exported to the United States and Europe to be used for transplant… As Carla del Ponte, former Chief Prosecutor of the United Nations International Criminal Court, remembered in her book The Hunt: Me and the War Criminals, Albanian Kosovars did the same thing.

 

 

 

 

The evidence is plentiful – Ukraine has become a safe haven for human organs traffickers. Ukrainian doctors say there are foreigners working in the national hospitals and they discuss on the phone which human organs of wounded soldiers could be sold and used for transplant.

Ukrainian hackers broke and circulated the correspondence between the former lawyer of Yulia Timoshenko Sergey Vlasenko and German doctor Olga Weber. The main suppliers of the goods were referred to as the commanders of the National Guard. Allegedly donated organs are taken under the order of Western buyers. It’s not the only instance. In the first days of the Maidan protests the Neo-Nazis from the Svoboda political party headed by Oleh Tyahnybok seized the crematorium at Baykov Cemetery in Kiev. There were some doctors among them Tyahnybok had worked with before they were reported to be involved in human trafficking schemes. After that a number of mysterious disappearances of people occurred in Kiev.

 

 

 

 

The last prisoners exchanges between Novorossia self-defense units and Ukrainian military revealed the cases of fraud. The military tried to present local peasants as prisoners of war.

It will take time to identify those who were taken prisoner holding weapons in their hands – were they shot, dead as a result of torture or sold for organs? Europe can help by putting an end to the support it provides for military criminals in Kiev and the Neo-Nazi at their service.

Endret 27. september 2014 av Dysfunctional
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Disse etterlater seg også stråling, men på et mye lavere nivå enn Plutonium basert kjernefysisk våpen.

 

 

Utarmet uran etterlater seg svært lite stråling. Eter du utarmet uran vil ikke radioaktiviteten ha nok effekt til å trenge igjennom cellene i tarmen din engang.

 

Utarmet uran er dog svært giftig, som med mange andre tungtmetaller, men strålingen fra utarmet uran er påvist ganske harmløs.

 

Man kan heller ikke bruke Uran i seg selv til å lage en atombombe, da det bare er en isotop (U-235) som er fissibel (spaltbar). De andre isotopene i Uranmaterialet vil absorbere neutronene hvis man prøver å få igang en kjedereaksjon.