Liberal reform av Islam "Irshad Manji"

[medlem-318254]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T2ermnOigQ

Har vært litt morsomt...

Men så kom denne gjengen inn

 

Ganske fredelig

 

Så hva tror du om dette, hadde vært digg.

Hva tror du?

Endret 15. november 2013 av ZeroX3

[Korporal Kranium]

Fortsatt en half-assed løsning, da vi i 2013 burde ha gått bort fra religion i det hele tatt synes nå jeg :l

[medlem-318254]

Fortsatt en half-assed løsning, da vi i 2013 burde ha gått bort fra religion i det hele tatt synes nå jeg :l

Et skritt av gangen

[Baltazar94]

De som tror at islam går an å reformere de lurer seg selv, for islams natur er ekstrem og voldelig.

Det kommer også frem av islams skrifter, og da ikke bare koranen selv om denne er full av oppfordringer til volld og drap.

Og det er ganske utrolig at så mange muslimer og andre kan klare å lese koranen og samtidig overse dette.

 

 

Jesus sa for en del år siden til de jødiske skriftlærde"dere har djevelen til far" og dette gjelder ikke bare jøder og jødedommen, det gjelder like mye islam, som egentlig er som en gren av jødedommen.

 

Djevelen er satan, og satans natur er ond, og hat og ødeleggelse følger med.

 

Satan kan ikke forandre seg, og det kan ikke islam heller.

[Halsoy]

kristendommen og islams natur er ekstrem og voldelig.Det kommer også frem av kristne og islamske skrifter, og da ikke bare bibelen og koranen selv om disse er full av oppfordringer til vold og drap.Og det er ganske utrolig at så mange kristne og muslimer og andre kan klare å lese bibelen og koranen og samtidig overse dette.

FIFY

[Baltazar94]

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Nå må du snart bli voksen nok til å skrive dine egne innlegg istedenfor å redigere på mine innlegg, og sette inn dine egne ord der du mener det passer.

[medlem-318254]

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Ateister elsker Islam Også liberale og Venstre politikere

[Baltazar94]

Muslimer forfølger og driver med massemord og etnisk rensing på kristne og andre minoriteter over hele verden

 

http://shoebat.com/2013/11/09/muslims-kill-christians-drink-blood-say-gives-salvation/

 

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/09/22/open-season-on-christians/

 

http://www.persecution.org/?s=muslim++percecution+of+christians+on+the+philppines&x=25&y=7

 

Og det er ikke bare i såkalte muslimske land de driver med dette. Ogsa i India, thailand,Myanmar, Fillippinene og i Afrika driver de med forfølgelse og drap på kristne og andre ikke-muslimer.

 

Muslimene dreper også sine egne om noen blir mistenkt for å ha falt fra islam og/eller noen finner seg kjærester/nære venner utenfor islam.

 

Og når muslimer er i blodrus, så er de så ivrige etter å drepe at de ikke bryr seg med å sjekke hvem det er har fanget før de dreper.

 

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/11/islamic-al-qaeda-linked-rebels-in-syria-accidentally-behead-fellow-sunni/

 

Og dette er selvfølgelig motivert av muslimenes "hellige" bok, koranen.

 

Quran: 8:12 "When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

 

 

Quran: 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

 

 

Quran: 4.89 They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

 

Så all drepingen ol er etter oppfordring i koranen.

 

Og selvfølgelig osgå for å etterligne "det mest perfekte menneske" som muslimene kaller morderen og landeveisrøveren muhammed.

 

Å prøve å reformere islam er som å prøve å reformere en dødelig pest. Det er mao umulig.

 

Det eneste som vil hjelpe er om de muslimer som ennå har litt menneskelige følelser igjen viille forlate islam.

Endret 16. november 2013 av Baltazar94

[Baltazar94]

Ateister elsker Islam Også liberale og Venstre politikere

Det virker slik ¨ja, men det spørs om de ville elske islam om de visste hva islam er og hva denne ondskapens religion/ideologi står for.

 

Men det ville likevel ikke forundre med om de vet dette, men likevel elsker islam, bare fordi de vil bli kvitt kristendommen.

 

for det er jo slik i denne verden at sannhet,kjærlighet og rettferdighet er blitt "farlig"

De fleste vil heller ha løgn, terror,vold og drap.

Og det er derfor de fleste har et så inderlig ønske om å bli kvitt kristendom og erstate kristendom med islam.

[Dragavon]

Ateister elsker Islam Også liberale og Venstre politikere

Tullprat.

 

Har du lest det på www.nyhetsspeilet.no?

[Halsoy]

Muslimer forfølger og driver med massemord og etnisk rensing på kristne og andre minoriteter over hele verden

 

http://shoebat.com/2013/11/09/muslims-kill-christians-drink-blood-say-gives-salvation/

 

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/09/22/open-season-on-christians/

 

http://www.persecution.org/?s=muslim++percecution+of+christians+on+the+philppines&x=25&y=7

 

Og det er ikke bare i såkalte muslimske land de driver med dette. Ogsa i India, thailand,Myanmar, Fillippinene og i Afrika driver de med forfølgelse og drap på kristne og andre ikke-muslimer.

 

Muslimene dreper også sine egne om noen blir mistenkt for å ha falt fra islam og/eller noen finner seg kjærester/nære venner utenfor islam.

 

Og når muslimer er i blodrus, så er de så ivrige etter å drepe at de ikke bryr seg med å sjekke hvem det er har fanget før de dreper.

 

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/11/islamic-al-qaeda-linked-rebels-in-syria-accidentally-behead-fellow-sunni/

 

Og dette er selvfølgelig motivert av muslimenes "hellige" bok, koranen.

 

Quran: 8:12 "When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

 

 

Quran: 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

 

 

Quran: 4.89 They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

 

 

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

 

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

 

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

 

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

 

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

 

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

 

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

 

Matthew 11

20 Then Jesus began to denounce the towns in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades.[a] For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. 24 But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.” (om det ikke er klart, han promoterer drap og uendelig lidelse)

 

Mark 4

11 He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12 so that,

“‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,

and ever hearing but never understanding;

otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!

(jesus sier at han med vilje snakker for å misslede mennesker, slik at de ikke kommer til himmelen (selv om bibelen sier at gud ikke er forfatteren av forvirring, og jesus er gud))

 

Matthew 10

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

 

(jesus snakker)

 

Se, alt du vil si vondt om andre religioner er akkurat det samme som bibelen sier. Tada, bibelen er ikke noe spesiell i noen sammenheng.