Trolig svindlet på internett, hva nå? (kjøp fra sverige)

[AnonymDiskusjon]

Ok.

Det hele startet med at jeg la ut en ønsket kjøpt annonse på avforum.no og hifisentralen.no vedrørende en høyttaler jeg ønsker å kjøpe.

 

Noen dager etter fikk jeg en epost fra en som skulle selge, jeg fothåndsbetalte kr ca 2500 til selger, etter dette har alt virket mer og mer misstenkelig, og jeg tror rett og slett jeg er blitt svindlet.

 

I spoiler følger mailkorspondansen, sensitiv info om jeg meg og selger er fjernet/korrigert.

 

 

 

Selger 7. okt

 

How was your weekend. Are you still interested in buying this item? I have it in wonderful condition, I will email you some details as soon as i have your interest. Thanks

 

Best Regards

Pettersen

x, Sweden

 

Hvordan var din helg. Er du fortsatt interessert i å kjøpe dette? Jeg har den i flott stand, vil jeg sende deg noen detaljer så snart jeg har din interesse. takk

 

beste hilsen

Pettersen

x, Sverige

 

Meg 7. okt

Yes, I'm still interested in this

What condition / color is it and what price you want for it?

btw, I see you live in Sweden, VAT is 25% for imports to Norway.

 

Best regards MEG

 

Hei.

Ja, jeg er fremdeles interessert i denne

Hvilken stand/farge er den og hvilken pris ønsker du for den?

btw, Jeg ser du bor i Sverige, mva blir på 25% ved import til Norge.

 

mvh MEG

 

Selger 8. okt

Thanks for your response. Sorry for the late response. Below are pictures of the XTZ W12 sent to you to view. it in good working condition and in perfect order, everything work perfectly well on it as you can see in the pictures Comes with manual and the original box for packaging. Look clean and excellent. You can make me an offer, a good offer is acceptable. I will need your complete shipping address for posting and i will forward you details for payment if your price is acceptable. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon

 

*Selger la ved to stk bilder i denne e-posten som vedlegg XTZ W12.jpg og XTZ W12.1.jpg, jeg tengte da jeg så disse bildene at jeg har sett dem før, men det var først i ettertid at jeg virkelig skjønte at det ikke bare var en liten tanke, jeg søkte dem opp og fant dem på internett.

Her: http://www.google.no/imgres?um=1&client=opera&sa=N&channel=suggest&hl=nn&tbm=isch&tbnid=IX1Sw_Jf12FXgM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/subwoofer-tests-archived/5770-xtz-99-w12-maximum-extension.html&docid=JSFU6xa605S15M&imgurl=http://www.dvdplaza.fi/galleria/data/954/0073.jpg&w=576&h=768&ei=z6NmUs3qEemH4ATC44GQCA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:6,s:0,i:92&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=162&tbnw=132&start=0&ndsp=34&tx=38&ty=102 og Her: http://www.google.no/imgres?um=1&client=opera&sa=N&channel=suggest&hl=nn&tbm=isch&tbnid=tW_5SR-JM6JhDM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/subwoofer-tests-archived/5771-xtz-99-w12-maximum-output.html&docid=crQj_gj-nOrEXM&imgurl=http://www.dvdplaza.fi/galleria/data/954/0075.jpg&w=633&h=768&ei=z6NmUs3qEemH4ATC44GQCA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:7,s:0,i:95&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=162&tbnw=146&start=0&ndsp=34&tx=106&ty=81

Treff nr 7 og 8 om man googler "xtz w12"

 

Meg 8. okt

I can think of giving you around 2000-2500 NOK for it (1 NOK = 1.07540 SEK).

What do you think about that?

 

My address is:

min adresse

postnr sted

Norge

 

mvh MEG

 

Selger 8. okt

Thanks for your mail.. I have your complete shipping address for delivery and its well noted. I accept your offer 2,500.00 NOK which is 307 EUR including shipping and insurance to your doorstep i will ship as soon as i receive payment. My mode of payment is via Bank Transfer. For Payment Below is my bank details

 

Name ..... .Hans Pettersen

Bank .. .......ICA BANK

IBAN: .........x

BIC: ...........x

Adresse .. x, Schweden

My address is x 00 SE-00000 x, Sweden.

 

As soon as payment is sent,you are to forward me a scan copy of the transfer receipt for confirmation to the bank thanks and hope to hear from you soon

 

Meg 8. okt

Payment is sent (will be transferred tomorrow 09.10.13), see

attachment betaling.png.

 

I do not know how you get this carried over to Norway, but beware of

VAT on imports, this is something that is convenient to avoid.

 

See

http://www.toll.no/templates_TAD/Topic.aspx?id=244994&epslanguage=no

and

http://www.toll.no/templates_TAD/Topic.aspx?id=244981&epslanguage=no

 

*Vedlagt ligger betaling.png, en kopi har jeg lastet opp her: http://i.imgur.com/KxDSogo.png

*

 

Selger 9. okt

Thanks for your mail.. I will go to my bank later to know when the money will be available and y bank account and i will let you know as soon as i am back. Thanks

 

Selger 11. okt

Hello MEG

 

How are you doing today? I was told the money will be available in my bank account by Monday, i will let you know when i receive the money and also infirm you about shipping. Just want to keep you posted. Thanks and have a lovely weekend.

 

 

Meg 15. okt

Hi Hans.

 

Is this shipped?

 

- MEG

 

Selger 17. okt

Hello MEG

 

How are you doing today? I want to let you know that i have still not

receive the money you sent to me. Notthing came in on Monday when i

went to the bank. This is the 7th day since you made the payment and

nothing has showed up in my bank account. Please you have to go to the

bank to confirm what is wrong about the payment to know about the

delay. I took the payment receipt slip you scanned to me to the bank

today again and i was told the transaction was not found. Please check

in your bank where you made the payment to know what is wrong and get

back to me as soon as possible. So i will know what to do on time.

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

 

Best Regards

Hans

 

*Nå benynner jeg å få kalde føtter, men pengene er ute av min konto, så det er for sent å trekke seg, jeg får bare spille videre og satse på magefølesen er feil*

 

Meg 17. okt

Hello Hans.

 

That was strange, I have checked up with the bank and received this confirmation that the money has been sent.

(See attached pdf)

I hope this is helping by finding payment.

 

Looking forward to your feedback.

 

- MEG

*Vedlagt ligger Registrerte oppdrag.pdf, en kopi har jeg lastet opp her: http://i.imgur.com/qwEk9Jh.png

*

 

Selger 18. okt

Hello MEG, the money arrive successfully. Thanks for the pdf copy its really helped me at the bank to and everything is OK now. i work with the bank as a control manager so we have to make sure everything is OK, i am very sorry for the inconvenience, it was due to our ongoing customer information update the we are doing in the Bank, that was why the money did not reflect on time. i am very sorry i didn't get back to you on time, i have been very busy in the office doing maintenance in our customer account to know those that still alive and active. I have a deal for you that will change our lives forever, which i am in the position to carry out the instruction in one of our late customer's account. I want to trust you on this my friend, i will forward details about the deal as soon as i hear from you. I will be shipping your XTZ W12 by monday and i will forward you the shipping tracking tracking number as soon as the shipping is done. If you are interested in what i told you about do let me know, its a one time opportunity that both of us can never get again in life and i will not us miss the chance. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

 

Best Regards

Hans

*ok, nå er jeg virkelig skeptisk*

 

Meg 20. okt

Hello Hans.

 

Looking forward to tracking number on Monday.

Regarding the deal you describe, you may well tell what it is about, but I must admit it sounds somewhat suspicious

 

- MEG

 

Selger 21. okt

How are you doing today... The shipping has been done and the tracking number is XX-000-0000-000XX and it will deliver in 5 business days.. The delivery agent name is Carl Jacksen and he will deliver the item at your doorstep, the tracking number provided is your clearance number which you will give to him for confirmation.. He will contact you a day for delivery.. Let me know when you receive the item, thanks

*Formateringen av tacking nummeret virker veldig rart, og at det skal komme en navngitt person på døren virker for meg veldig rart, navnet kunde oppgir høres utenlnadsk ut, f.eks amerikans, ikke norsk eller svnensk, navnet virker å være et veldig vanlig navn rundt om i verden når jeg googler det, dog finner ingen i norge med dette*

 

 

Selger 21. okt

 

*Her kommer selger med en veldig lang, og veldig misstenkelig mail, se ny spoiler*

 

 

 

Hello MEG hope you got my previous mail for the tracking number of your XTZ W12.

 

This is the deal i told you about, please take your time to read it and understand it there nothing suspicious on it, its very important for both of us, it is of great importance for you to take care and understand every word which I have written down below; please be patient and read the explanation in my email.

 

I just want to appreciate your kindness towards me and the trust you have in me. I like you and i believe in you as well that you are a kind and honest man with good heart. I have a deal for you that will benefit both of us, i will need that trust in you now and for you to trust me on this.

 

I am writting you concerning a customer and an investment placed under our banks management In the Bank where i work; as a matter of fact it was 3 years ago. I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail private and also to kindly respect the integrity of the information you come by as a result of this email. I contacted you independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this communication; I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you.

 

In 2010, the subject matter; Ref: xx/xxx/000/00/000 came to our bank to engage in business discussions with our Private Banking Services Department. He informed us that he had a financial portfolio of 14.37 million United States Dollars, which he wished to have us turn over (invest) on his behalf. I was the officer assigned to his case; I made numerous suggestions in line with my duties as the de-facto chief operations officer of the Private Banking Services Department, especially given the volume of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous occasions prior to any investments being placed, and however I encouraged him to consider various growth funds with prime ratings. The favored route in my advice to customers is to start by assessing data on 600 traditional stocks and bond managers and 200 managers of alternative investments. Based on my advice, we spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for our first months of operation, the accrued profit with interest included, stood at this point at over 15.2 million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments.

 

In mid 2011, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in Europe. He directed that I liquidate the funds and had it deposited with a firm in Europe. I informed him that our bank would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He complained about the charges but later came around when I explained to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash movement across borders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate in Europe and had the funds available in mainland Europe, I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited in a security consultancy firm, the firm is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with his instructions, the money was deposited; he told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. This was the last communication we had, this transpired around February 25th 2011. In June last year, we got a call from the security firm informing us of the inactivity of that particular portfolio. This was an astounding position as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit, and I could not understand why he had not come forward to claim his deposit.

 

I made futile efforts to locate him, I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of our bank. Four days later, information started to trickle in, that he was apparently dead, a person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Cannes, South of France; we were soon enough able to gather more information and the cause of death was confirmed. The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next of kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his estate. If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachment from conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice to depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; he died Intestate.

 

In line with our internal processes for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our own investigations in good faith to determine who should have right to claim the estate, this investigation for several months were futile. We have scanned every continent and used our private investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is this investigation that resulted in my decision to obtain your contact details and contact you, being as a foreigner, as a potential benefactor of the estate even if you are in no way affiliated with this individual (the deceased).My official capacity dictates that I am the only party to supervise the investigation and the only party to receive the results of the investigation. What this means, with you being a foreigner, I have considered the fact that our dear late fellow died with no known or identifiable family member. This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the prevailing situation is in relation to the deposit and the late beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice, the firm shall by the end of this financial year broadcast a request for statements of claim to our bank, failing to receive viable claims they will most probably revert the deposit back to our bank. This will result in the money entering our bank's accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands and out of the Private Banking Services Department. This will not happen if I have my way.

 

What I wish to relate to you might be a smack of unethical practice but I want you to understand something; it is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios; you should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose. There is USD$13,991,674(Thirteen million, nine hundred and ninety one thousand, six hundred and seventy four united states dollars) deposited, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as the finance firm is concerned, the transaction with our deceased customer concluded when I sent the funds to the firm, all outstanding interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process. The finance firm has no single idea of what's the history or nature of the deposit, they are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party that comes forward, and this is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track the family of the deceased; they have investigated for months and have found no family but however the investigation has officially come to an end.

 

My proposal; I am prepared to place you in a position whereby an instruction is given to the finance firm to officially release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation/associate, and all etiquette shall be done in accordance with the rule of law, I certainly can guarantee you that. By the common law, the power of bequeathing is coeval with the first rudiments of the law, and this power has been extended to all a man's Personal and Real estate (Personality & Realty). There is no ruling which prevents an inheritance from being so exhausted by legacies as to render it unworthy of the heir's acceptance; basically all persons of sound mind are competent to bequeath and devise real and personal estate, excepting infants, with all this I would say we have the clear advantage to carry out a smooth and perfect operation whereby the paper work shall be coordinated in such a way that your status as a sole beneficiary is confirmed. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the money with you in half and no more; that is: I will simply nominate you as the next of kin and have them release the deposit to you; afterwards we share the proceeds 50/50.

 

I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in claiming the deposit, but on the other hand, you as a indifferent foreigner would easily pass as the beneficiary with the rights to claim, I assure you that I could have the deposit released to you in a few days. I will simply inform our bank of the final closing of the file relating to the customer, I will then officially communicate with the finance company and instruct them to release the deposit to you; with these two things: all is done.. The alternative would be for us to have the firm direct the funds to another bank with you as account holder, this way there will be no need for you to think of receiving the money from the firm. We can fine-tune this based on our interactions, I am aware of the consequences of this proposal and I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask also, that you do not be vindictive or destructive, if my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you; please not destroy my career because you do not approve of my proposal.

 

You may not know this but people like me who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the whole private banking sector, I am not a criminal and what I do, I do not find against good conscience, this may be hard for you to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this move. Such opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I cannot let this chance pass me and you by and I hope you understand, because for once I found myself in total control and face to face with my destiny. These chances won't pass me by, I ask that you do not destroy my chance, let make it a one time opportunity, if you will not work with me please let me know, and hence move on with my life, but do not destroy me; I am a family man and this is an occasion to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward for this project and it is a task well worth undertaking, I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is from you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank; I am the only one who knows of this situation, good fortune will bless you and plant you into the center of relevance in my life, lets share the blessing together, thanks for your understanding and hope to hear from you soon, and please also let me know when you have receive your XTZ W12 and tested OK.. Look forward for your reply Thanks

 

Best Regards

Hans Pettersen

 

 

 

Meg 22. okt

Hi Hans.

Where can I track this tracking number? Also Which company transports the package?

 

- MEG

 

 

 

 

 

Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4 Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4 Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4

 

Så hva tror dere.

 

Jeg regner ikke meg jer ser noe til min vare, og ettersom jeg har betalt via kontooverføring har jeg ikke forsikret betalingen slik har hadde f.eks ved kredittkort.

 

Så, hva gjør jeg nå?

Har vist vært for godtroende på internett. Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4 Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4

[Horrorbyte]

Det er jo helt åpenbart at dette er svindel.

 

Hva du kan gjøre? Levere en anmeldelse til poltiet, som mest sannsynlig blir henlagt grunnet bevisets stilling.

Endret 22. oktober 2013 av Horrorbyte

[Illus]

Hans Pettersen i Sverige som skriver på gebrokken engelsk ?

 

Dette er nok tapte penger. Kontakt banken og hør om de kan gjøre noe for å få reversert transaksjonen. Noe som er svært lite sannsynlig at de kan. Også ordner du en anmeldelse som blir lagt bort etter bevisets stilling etter å ha ligget i en skuff i de obligatoriske 3 uker.

 

Beklager, men du har ihvertfall lært "the hard way" at du aldri aldri aldri forhåndsbetaler på internet.

[Zepticon]

Paypal or nothing så slipper du slikt. Og be dem skrive navnet sitt nå en lapp å legge på bildet

Endret 22. oktober 2013 av Zepticon

[Nerdejente]

Hvis du google noen av setningene i den mailen der, så ser du fort at det er en "standard"-tekst i forbindelse med spam-mail og svindel. Kjedelig. Nigeria kommer også opp som en rekke alternativer.. det sier jo litt :-/

[Korporal Kranium]

Så det er sånn de nigerianske prinsene får råd til nye Pc'er!

[AnonymDiskusjon]

Da har jeg fått en epost til, ingen sensur da det uten tvil er svindel

Fra: Daniel Morrison <[email protected]>

<b>Plroblem Regarding Your XTZ W12</b> 25. okt 13.
Hello

Hope you are doing fine.. I am Daniel Morrison the delivery agent that will deliver your package...I am stock in Africa.. I am having problem with their Custom Office.. I have been told to pay for Tax and Security Papers before moving into [adresse]... I ask them why? I have been told that this policy was place by the Nigeria Government, that this papers are very important for safety delivery and when i ask them how much it will cost.. I was told that it will cost $250 for this papers... I have been giving a mandate to secure the papers immediately, that was why i contacted you, because i have your email on the package and your complete information.. I have try to contact Mr [navn på svindler], But not responding to my mail, that was why i contacted you to solve it out.. I secure an hotel nearby to send you this email.. Please you have to act fast on this matter so that i can get the papers immediately and move into your country first thing tomorrow morning..OK. Your urgent feedback is needed immeidately thanks Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4

Endret 25. oktober 2013 av Occi
Fjernet navn og adresse for bruker og svindler.

[AnonymDiskusjon]

^

så det er den jeg fikk akkurat nå.

Hva svarer jeg?

Pri1: svindle svindlerne og få penger tilbake

Pri2: Sløse med tidem dems Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4

[magnusalex]

Du synes ikke det var litt misstenkelig at en Pettersen fra Sverige skriver dårlig engelsk (eller engelsk i det hele tatt) og tar betaling i Euro?

[AnonymDiskusjon]

Du synes ikke det var litt misstenkelig at en Pettersen fra Sverige skriver dårlig engelsk (eller engelsk i det hele tatt) og tar betaling i Euro?

Han hette egentlig (og heretter) [skjult navn, nordisk], endret bare dette i førstepost da jeg ikke var 100% sikker på om det var svindel, og utskyldige mennesker vil jeg ikke henge ut.

 

Ellers er jeg ganske dårlig selv i engelsk så små feil her og der ser jeg ikke så lett, at svdensker snakker på engelsk virker nok litt rart, men jeg har snakket mailet med svensker som gjør det før.

Ang betaling i EUR tengte jeg rett og slett ikke over det.

 

Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4

Endret 25. oktober 2013 av Occi
Fjernet personalia på påstått svindler.

[Occi]

Moderatormelding

 

Personalia til påstått svindler er fjernet. Det er ikke ønskelig at slikt deles på diskusjon.no, spesielt ikke adresse, kontonr eller lignende som er å anse som privat informasjon, også hvis man har svindlet noen. Informasjon om svindelen er ok, men ikke på person.

 

Reaksjoner tas på PM.

 

Endret 25. oktober 2013 av Occi

[Nerdejente]

http://www.klikk.no/produkthjemmesider/vimenn/article714602.ece Gjør som Reodor Felgen

[AnonymDiskusjon]

http://www.klikk.no/produkthjemmesider/vimenn/article714602.ece Gjør som Reodor Felgen

Jeg ser ihvertfal det er vist til et forum i artikkelen for slikt, jeg postet en tråd der

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1977977 Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4

[AnonymDiskusjon]

 

Nå har en tredje perspn kontaktet meg...

 

 

 

Hope you doing fine

 

I am contacting you regarding your wanted advert. I still have this item in good working condition. I will forward you details as soon as i get you response. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon

 

Best Regards

Dikins

Spain

 

 

 

*meg*

 

 

20:30 (for 33 minutter siden)

 

 

 

 

hello.

Thank you for your e mail

 

which advert on which page are you referring to? Anonymous poster hash: 8797d...dc4

[Militant Bærplukker]

Paypal or nothing så slipper du slikt. Og be dem skrive navnet sitt nå en lapp å legge på bildet

 

http://www.paypalsucks.com/

[Zepticon]

http://www.paypalsucks.com/

Lol... den virka jo seriøs

[Occi]

Lol... den virka jo seriøs

Det ligger nok noe bak det, men siden er helræva. Laster ikke engang uten javascript (bruker NoScript).

[toth]

Ærlig talt, disse pengene er sendt til en svensk bank, et svensk navn på konto - ikke direkte til nigeria..! Da må det definitivt gå an å snakke fornuft med egen og den svenske banken?

 

Edit: Det er vel tilogmed en fare for at kontoeier er lykkelig uvitende om det hele, og svindlerne har tilgang til kontoen hans og misbruker den. Det skal mye til å opprette en bankkonto under fullstendig falskt navn og adresse.

Endret 31. oktober 2013 av toth

[magnusalex]

Vi vet ikke om det er en svensk konto. Han har betalt med IBAN og SWIFT, så det kan like gjerne være en konto i Nigeria som i Sverige.

[Arne]

Nå står det i første post at pengene ble overført til Ica Banken da, vet ikke om den fins i Nigeria.