[Løst] DAC/amp til DT770 80 Ohm

[Magno]

Hei,

 

Jeg har for omtrent en mnd siden investert i et par Dt770 80 ohm, meget fornøyd med kjøpet men har begynt å tenke på en dac og en hodetelefon forsterker. Det jeg har nå er direkte fra datamaskinen og gjennom en Fiio e5. Ettersom jeg er bitt av lydbasillen så vil jeg gjerne ha mer, men også noe som kjører DT770 for det de er verdt. Det er også verdt å nevne jeg vil gjerne ha muligheten til å utvide til en amp og et par med høytalere i framtiden. Dette kommer forresten til å stå på arbeidsplassen min hjemme, så ingenting veldig stort

 

KIlde ---USB--DAC/AMP---Dt770

 

 

Det jeg har en god stund sett på en Maverick Audio D1, enkel begynnerdac med innebygd hodetelefonforsterker. Man kan også kjøpe med "GE 5670 Rør" og "OPA627 OpAmp" dette går meg over hodet. Hvis noen savante her kunne forklart meg det hadde det vært gull.

 

Link. http://www.mav-audio.com/base/product/tube_magic_d1

 

Derimot er jeg også åpen for forslag om det er noe som skulle være mer aktuelt, så lenge det er ved eller under 2000 kr merket.

 

 

På forhånd takk,

Magno o/

Endret 5. juni 2012 av Magno

[Godde]

Hallo,

 

Har du kjøpt enda? Hvis ja, hvordan høres det ut?

Jeg er en nybegynner når det kommer til lyd, men tenker selv å kjøpe nye hodetelefoner snart, og etter mye lesing har jeg kommet frem til at jeg sannsynligvis kjøper DT770. Satser på 80ohm fremfor 32 da jeg har hørt disse har litt mer "oomph".

Av DAC/ampene jeg har sett på er det D1, som du nevner, og FiiO E17 som står fram. Har du (eller noen andre forsåvidt) noen tanker om dette?

[nipton]

FiiO E9+E7 or Maverick D1?

http://www.head-fi.o...-or-maverick-d1

 

Om æ ikke hadde kjøpt E9 så hadde æ kjøpt: Objective2

http://www.ebay.com/...#ht_1580wt_1600

 

Får masse skryt: http://avforum.no/fo...o2-nwavguy.html

http://nwavguy.blogs...o2-summary.html

 

Helt sikkert best bang for buck amp/odac combo in the buizznaz.

 

Artikkel om hva vi egentlig hører:

http://www.nwavguy.b...at-we-hear.html

 

WHAT WE HEAR: Neurologists, brain experts, hearing experts, and audio experts, all agree the human hearing system, by necessity, discards around 99.99% of what arrives at our ears. Our “reptile brain” is actively involved determining what gets discarded. For example when you’re listening to someone at a noisy restaurant, the brain does its best to deliver just their voice. And, multiple studies demonstrate, when you’re listening to audio gear the brain also does its best to filter your hearing in the way it thinks you most want. If you’re expecting Gear A to sound different from Gear B the brain filters each differently so you indeed hear a difference even when there isn’t one. This auditory issue has many names. I generally call it “Subjective Bias” but it’s what’s behind “Expectation Bias”, “The Placebo Effect”, and “Confirmation Bias”. I highly recommend the book Brain Rules by John Medina and there are more resources in the Tech Section.

hd650 closeup

 

 

BACK TO HEADFONIA’S REVIEW: Knowing the O2 measures well creates an unavoidable bias that it might be too “sterile” which implies, as Lieven said, it could be “missing something” or sound “thin”. His brain involuntarily, when he knows he’s listening to the O2, would filter his hearing to deliver the expected “sterile” sound. Someone could set up a blind test between the O2 and a measurably transparent amp Lieven really likes, and he would no longer be able to tell the amps apart because his brain wouldn’t know what to expect. Conversely, you could set up a test where Lieven compares the O2 in a sighted test to a more favored amp but in reality he’s always listening to the O2. Because he’s expecting to hear differences he would--even though he’s really listening to the same amp. He would hear what he expects from each amp. This isn’t unique to Lieven or Headfonia. We all suffer from this bias.

 

THINGS TO CONSIDER: If this article has you wondering just what’s real and what isn’t I would suggest considering some of the following:

 

Focus On What Matters To You – If you only want the best sound for your money don’t let others make you doubt your own enjoyment or convince you to spend more than necessary for things you can’t hear or don’t need. Likewise if you want a headphone amp that you can hand down to your kids in 20 years don’t let someone like me keep you from buying a Violectric V200 instead of an O2 even if they sound the same. The Violectric is better made. Of course your kids may have audio brain implants in 20 years.

 

Your Tastes Are Your Own – Subjective reviews are just that: Subjective. Don’t assume you will hear what a reviewer claims to have heard. We all hear differently, have different preferences, etc.

 

Music is Art but Audio is Science – Don’t confuse the art of being a musician with the science of reproducing recorded music. What an amplifier looks like is art, but what it does with an audio signal is entirely explained by science.

Endret 29. juni 2012 av nipton

[Godde]

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Finnes O2 i norske butikker? Ikke funnet enda etter et par enkle søk, og lite keen på å kjøpe fra ebay i tillegg til adapter(e).

[nipton]

hmm nei finnes ikke i norge. må kjøpes via

http://www.jdslabs.c...hp?fetchitem=39

 

gå på options.. select ODac+ Amp = 285 dollar

 

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http://www.jdslabs.c...hp?fetchitem=38

 

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Overgang

 

Uk based: http://epiphany-acou...r-with-usb-dac/

 

WHAT ABOUT THE SOUND QUALITY? The O2 compares very favorably in listening tests against the critically acclaimed Benchmark DAC1 Pre’s headphone output. An O2 user has compared it to a $1000+ AMB beta22 (b22) and wasn’t sure he could hear any difference. As more amps get evaluated more and more favorable reviews are coming in. I have encouraged blind listening tests against other gear as well. See: O2 Subjective Pitch

 

 

LISTENING TEST: The O2 was stacked up against the well regarded $1600 Benchmark DAC1 Pre in a listening challenge. The DAC1 is something of a favorite in the audiophile headphone community. A lot of subjective critics, and those who have measured it, really love it. So it’s all the more satisfying nobody has yet been able to tell the O2 from the DAC1’s headphone amp. The DAC1 Pre earned Stereophile’s top class A rating in the headphone category, a product of the year award, and countless other accolades. It has been described as “stupefyingly good” and “a revelation”. The headphones used in the comparison include the Sennheiser HD650s, Denon AH-D2000s, Etymotic ER-4s, Ultimate Ears SuperFi Pro 5s, and Beyer DT770s. Collectively they cover a wide range of impedance curves, efficiencies, types and subjective tastes in sound. The Denons and Etys are ruthlessly revealing, the HD650s are incredibly musical, the SuperFis ultra efficient, and the Beyers show off performance in the deepest bass. I hope to conduct more listening comparisons involving the O2 and perhaps even a public challenge or two. In short, I’m willing to back up my claims for the O2. Perhaps an O2 listening challenge is in your future?

 

Endret 29. juni 2012 av nipton

[Magno]

Kjøpet er gjort ja, den ble kjøpt for litt over en uke siden. Fant ut at jeg fikk endel igjen på skatten så jeg gikk opp endel i pris. Det ble Cambridge Audio sin DacMagic Plus, prisen var 3298 kr.

 

http://www.hifiklubben.no/produkter/stereo/da-konverter/cambridge_dacmagic-plus_da-konverter_sort.htm

 

Har ikke kunnet prøvd den ut så mye ennå grunnet festival, men er veldig fornøyd med kjøpet så langt.