Tregt og ustabilt nett - kan noen hjelpe med egen pingstatistikk?

Peppep · 17. juni 2009

Sliter med at nettet fra NGT (ADSL2+) har vært fryktelig ustabilt og tregt den siste tiden. Skal selvfølgelig klage på det, men tenkte å få litt harde tall og sammenligningsgrunnlag på ping først. Lurer derfor på om noen kan hjelpe med å se hva de ligger på i ping, gjerne med f.eks. "ping www.hardware.no -t" og avbryt etter 10-20 stk for å få ok statistikk på det. Fint om du også skriver på hvilket nett du sitter på (ISP og hastighet).

På det beste ligger jeg på 35-40ms ping, det verste..vel, tallene får snakke for seg selv (foruten de gangene det blir 100% tap pga timeout):

Klikk for å se/fjerne innholdet nedenfor

Pinging www.l.google.com [74.125.77.147] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 74.125.77.147: bytes=32 time=466ms TTL=51
Reply from 74.125.77.147: bytes=32 time=555ms TTL=51
Reply from 74.125.77.147: bytes=32 time=293ms TTL=51
Reply from 74.125.77.147: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 74.125.77.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 293ms, Maximum = 555ms, Average = 417ms

Pinging www.hardware.no [89.250.123.171] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 89.250.123.171: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=57
Reply from 89.250.123.171: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=57
Reply from 89.250.123.171: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
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Reply from 89.250.123.171: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 89.250.123.171:
Packets: Sent = 13, Received = 13, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 32ms, Maximum = 62ms, Average = 40ms

Pinging front.opera.com [195.189.143.147] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.189.143.147: bytes=32 time=378ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.189.143.147: bytes=32 time=417ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.189.143.147: bytes=32 time=432ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.189.143.147: bytes=32 time=481ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 195.189.143.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 378ms, Maximum = 481ms, Average = 427ms

Endret 17. juni 2009 av Peppep

Lars Dongeri Oppholdsnes · 17. juni 2009

Når du pinger må du sørge for at det er ingen andre som bruker linjen og har kryptert evt trådløs med WPA.

Slå deretter av og på routermodemet slik at du er sikker på at det ikke er noe heng.

På alle maskinene som er tilkoblet og påslått så trykk ctrl_alt_delete og se på oppgavebehandling, nettverk og se at det ikke går trafikk på de.

Nå er du klar for å pinge :-)

Du kan lagre ping til fil ved å skrive ping www.uio.no -t > ping.txt

Du kan undersøke mere ved å bruke tracert i stedet for ping. Da vil du se hoppene underveis.

Peppep · 17. juni 2009

Er vanskelig å kjøre dette på de rette tidspunktene, for det kan være stabilt og fint i en time, deretter ustabilt i 10 min, deretter stabilt i 5 min før det er ustabilt i to timer.

Direkte tilkoblet ethernet, med lett surfing:

Klikk for å se/fjerne innholdet nedenfor

Pinging www.uio.no [129.240.13.152] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 129.240.13.152: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=57

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Ping statistics for 129.240.13.152:

Packets: Sent = 808, Received = 799, Lost = 9 (1% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 31ms, Maximum = 764ms, Average = 95ms

Control-C

Jeg resetter igjen selv, og det går halvgreit (31-308 ms), til den resetter seg selv nok en gang. :S

maedox · 17. juni 2009

Canal Digital 20/3,5 Mbit/s kabel på Bjølsen i Oslo.

Pinging www.uio.no [129.240.13.152] with 32 bytes of data:
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Ping statistics for 129.240.13.152:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 19ms, Average = 7ms

Bolson · 17. juni 2009

Canal Digital 8/1,8, Lillehammer.

www.uio.no - snitt 13 ms, min 9 og maks 30

www.hardware.no - snitt 13 ms, min 7 og maks 21.

Direct Connect 4/0,4, Lillehammer

www.uio.no - snitt 11 ms, min 11 og maks 16

www.hardware.no - snitt 12 ms, min 11 og maks 13.

Ja, jeg sitter med dual tilkobling.

Peppep · 17. juni 2009

Kjekt. Jeg testet såpass lenge at jeg først kontaktet NGT rett før support stengte. Fikk teknisk til å oppdatere FW på routeren, og....yay, nettet er helt nede nå, og support er stengt. (Det siste er jo min feil for å være treg, men router-konfigurasjonen skal jo egentlig gå helt automatisk.) Så jeg får greie meg med mobilt bredbånd til i morgen, som for øvrig gir bedre ping enn NGT-nettet for tiden.

Takk for tilbakemeldinger. 5-15 ms hadde ikke skadet.

Endret 17. juni 2009 av Peppep

Lars Dongeri Oppholdsnes · 17. juni 2009

Når det gjelder ping fra Bergen til f.eks www.uio.no så bør du normalt ligge under 20ms med ADSL. Fra Kr-sund måler jeg 15ms jevnt.

EDIT: Hvis firmware er oppdatert hos deg, så kan du logge inn på routeren og legge inn brukernavn og passord manuelt. IP er vel http://10.0.0.1 ?

Endret 17. juni 2009 av la7dfa.com

IskaldCola · 17. juni 2009

Uninett, Bergen.

Pinger www.hardware.no [89.250.123.171] med 32 byte data:

Svar fra 89.250.123.171: byte=32 tid=6ms TTL=56

Ping-statistikker for 89.250.123.171:

Pakker: sendt = 20, mottatt = 20, tapt = 0 (0% tap),

Gjennomsnittlig tid for tur-retur i millisekunder:

minimum = 6ms, maksimum = 6ms, gjennomsnittlig = 6ms

Knopfix · 17. juni 2009

Kunde av Lyse nær Drammen. 10/10 Mbps fiber.

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Endret 17. juni 2009 av Knopfix

Peppep · 17. juni 2009

Hvis firmware er oppdatert hos deg, så kan du logge inn på routeren og legge inn brukernavn og passord manuelt. IP er vel http://10.0.0.1 ?

Jada, den ble oppdatert fra 5.4.4.1 til 7.4.1.7 (så det var vel på tide), en SpeedTouch 585. Så vidt jeg vet er ikke det mulig å konfigurere manuelt, har flere ganger sett etter muligheten for det. Er uproblematisk å komme inn på 10.0.0.1, det er ikke noe galt med wifi-nettet lokalt. Når jeg er innlogget får jeg at DSL-forbindelsen og "TypeB_1", som vanlig surfing skal gå over, står som oppkoblet. Resten av konfigurasjonen (IP-TV skal stå som br_video og IP-telefoni skal stå som br_ata) fullføres ikke. Når jeg tar connectivity test på TypeB_1 får jeg ok på DSL, ATM, Ethernet, PPP, IP, men "Connectivity to Gateway" feiler.

Kjører en gjenoppretting av routeren nå, så får vi se. Hvis ikke får det vente til i morgen.

Peppep · 25. juni 2009

Takk for hjelp, folkens. Det ble et routerbytte til slutt. Ligger fortsatt på ca 30-40 ms i snitt, og sider "henger" litt iblant, men det er mye sjeldnere, og opplever nettet som jevnt over mer stabilt nå, så skal ikke klage.

Endret 25. juni 2009 av Peppep

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