Hvorfor tror DU på Gud?

[RWS]

Du forsøker bare å vri deg unna med "stråmann argument"

 

Ingen har sagt at et dyr "plutselig" blir til et annet. Et dyr blir aldrig til et annet dyr. Hunder forblir hunder, katter forblir katter og mus forblir mus uanset antall generasjoner.

 

"Felles stamfar" er en annen unna mannøver du kommer med.

 

For ikke å nevne din påstand om at hvert eneste slektsledd, er en "missing link"

 

Det er helt tydelig at evolusjonsteorien er tull. Det er ikke slik nye dyr oppstår på jorden.

He he he...

 

(Smalt det fra mannen som virkelig ikke skjønner en puck selv ETTER at så og si samtelige her inne har foret ham med atom microskop der andre kun trenger en te skje.....)

 

The case IS lost... Totally waiste of both time and keyboard...... Fakta går rett og slett ikke inn, det er vel bare å innse det...

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Det er viktig å se forskjell på micro og macro evelusjon.

Endret 21. november 2011 av medlem-230551

[cuadro]

Det er helt tydelig at evolusjonsteorien er tull. Det er ikke slik nye dyr oppstår på jorden.

 

Ha det bra, forumtroll

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Det dere vil fram til er at vi for flere millioner år siden var aper?

At min

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var en halveis ape?

 

Hvorfor har vi ingen andre arter som er i nærheten av å kunne snakke med oss eller regne eller noe som vi kan?

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Du må bevise at et dyr kan bli til et annet dyr, for at evolusjonsteorien skal stemme.

Evolusjon går ikke ut på at katter blir til tigrer, eller at sjimpanser blir til mennesker. Det er en grufull misforståelse som bare den bittreste kreasjonist kan tro på...

Jo, det er akkurat det evolusjonsteorien sier.

 

 

Om du skal nekte, så må du ta fatt i begrunnelsen. Enten hold deg til argumentene, eller hold godt kjeft. Du får ikke mer spillerom av meg, dette er trolling.

Evolusjonsteorien er et dårlig argument mot skapelseshistorien, cuadro

Endret 21. november 2011 av IHS

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jeg argumenterte ikke mot skapelseshistorien. Nå troller du deg selv.

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Det dere vil fram til er at vi for flere millioner år siden var aper?

At min

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var en halveis ape?

 

Hvorfor har vi ingen andre arter som er i nærheten av å kunne snakke med oss eller regne eller noe som vi kan?

 

Vi har flere typer aper som forstår tegnespråk, blant annet:

Edit: Ja, gorillaen har blitt bedt om å si akkurat det hun sier i denne filmen. Koko er en av flere aper som kan komunisere gjennom tegnspråk.

Endret 21. november 2011 av cuadro

[Balthier]

Hvorfor tror DU på Gud?

 

Jeg har mine egne grunner. Ett ord. Eufori. Den følelsen når regnet slår ned en varm sommerdag. Eller når du våkner av at solskinnet stryker over kinnet. Slike ting gjør meg til en troende.

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Alle arter og planter i naturen henger sammen med hverandre. Hvis vepsen og bien ikke hadde vært ville vi ikke hatt blomster og bær.

Og det er en tilfeldighet at begge de utviklet seg til å bli sånn?

NONSENS!

 

Naturen henger så perfekt sammen at det å si at den er blitt utviklet er galskap å tro på.

 

For ikke å si at det er fysisk umulig at en liten prikk kan bli til et helt univers med galakser og planeter.

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Hvis universet utvider seg i dag, hva er utenfor det?

Det å si at før bigbang var det bare energi er nonsens, hvor kom energien fra.

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Naturen henger så perfekt sammen at det å si at den er blitt utviklet er galskap å tro på.

 

Du kan ikke bygge et argument på en opplagt løgn.

 

Og når du tar feil på feil, så er det ikke bare å hoppe videre.

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Det dere vil fram til er at vi for flere millioner år siden var aper?

At min tipptipptipptipptipptipptipptippoldefar

 

var en halveis ape? Nei, det er feil. Ingen er HALVEIS noen ting. Nei, for flere millioner år siden var vi det som senere ble til aper... Tror rett og slett ikke du forstår det om forklaringen hoppet opp og bet deg i ræva jeg....

 

Hvorfor har vi ingen andre arter som er i nærheten av å kunne snakke med oss eller regne eller noe som vi kan?

Åssen VET du det? For ALT vi vet kan det ha vært flere grener av vår egen gren, noe florensis og neandertalis og en del andre grener som vi HAR funnet spor etter tyder på. Så hvordan kan DU konkludere med noe slikt?

 

At vi mennesker har de hjernene vi har er vel mer et utslag av tilfeldigheter enn noe annet... Så langt ser det ut som at vi forlot trærne fordi skogen vi levde i for ca 250 00 til en million år siden ble gradvis borte nede i afrika. Vi vet ikke så mye om bakgrunnen enda, men en ting VET vi og det er at ALLE menneskers stamfedre orginerte fra afrika. Du må gjerne si "la la la la" her også, for alt jeg bryr meg, men du vile finne det meget vanskelig å motbevise DNA med religiøse tullball påstander...

 

ALLE mennesker "stammer" fra afrika... Europa og amerika var de siste verdens delene mennesket kom til, europa ble befolket for ca 40 000 år siden (der vi traff på, og levde ved siden av, homo neandertalis) og amerika ble befolket ved slutten av den siste istid, fra befolkninger i asia og fra euro asia, eller det som er kjent som kazakstan i dag. Dette VET vi i dag grunnet DNA...

 

Og det, pluss en rekke andre ting som vitenskapen har vist oss, er grunnen til at jeg IKKE tror på noen spesifikk gud... Menneskets opprinnesle og gåten om universet er mye mer spennende når man IKKE blander inn håpløse, og grunnløse, påstander om en gud inn i det hele...

[medlem-230551]

EKS: Hvis en blå ku dret ut energien, hvor kom kua fra.

[cuadro]

Hvor all energien i universet kommer fra (om noe) er ikke umiddelbart en relevant problemstilling evolusjonsteorien. Hva med å forholde seg det minste sakelig?

[medlem-230551]

Hvorfor har vi ingen andre arter som er i nærheten av å kunne snakke med oss eller regne eller noe som vi kan?

Åssen VET du det? For ALT vi vet kan det ha vært flere grener av vår egen gren, noe florensis og neandertalis og en del andre grener som vi HAR funnet spor etter tyder på. Så hvordan kan DU konkludere med noe slikt?

 

At vi mennesker har de hjernene vi har er vel mer et utslag av tilfeldigheter enn noe annet... Så langt ser det ut som at vi forlot trærne fordi skogen vi levde i for ca 250 00 til en million år siden ble gradvis borte nede i afrika. Vi vet ikke så mye om bakgrunnen enda, men en ting VET vi og det er at ALLE menneskers stamfedre orginerte fra afrika. Du må gjerne si "la la la la" her også, for alt jeg bryr meg, men du vile finne det meget vanskelig å motbevise DNA med religiøse tullball påstander...

 

ALLE mennesker "stammer" fra afrika... Europa og amerika var de siste verdens delene mennesket kom til, europa ble befolket for ca 40 000 år siden (der vi traff på, og levde ved siden av, homo neandertalis) og amerika ble befolket ved slutten av den siste istid, fra befolkninger i asia og fra euro asia, eller det som er kjent som kazakstan i dag. Dette VET vi i dag grunnet DNA...Det at alle mennesker stammer fra afrika er godt mulig. det at europa ble befolket 40.000 år siden er en HYPOTESE menneske, ikke bevist!!!(men godt mulig) neandertalermenneske er ikke bevist, vi vet ikke det. hadde vi vist det hadde jeg vært ateist nå.

 

Og det, pluss en rekke andre ting som vitenskapen har vist oss, er grunnen til at jeg IKKE tror på noen spesifikk gud... Menneskets opprinnesle og gåten om universet er mye mer spennende når man IKKE blander inn håpløse, og grunnløse, påstander om en gud inn i det hele...

du kan tro på så mange homo neandertalis og homo erectus du vil for min del.

Men jeg vil ikke til helvete.

[medlem-230551]

Jeg gir nå en kunngjøring:

JEG VIL ALDRI MER BESVARE EN KOMMENTAR SOM INNEBÆRER AT NOEN SIER AT NOE ER BEVIST ELLER AT VI VET DET NÅR DET IKKE ER BEVIST.

Endret 21. november 2011 av medlem-230551

[Abigor]

Det dere vil fram til er at vi for flere millioner år siden var aper?

At min tiptiptiptip

var en halveis ape?

 

Hvorfor har vi ingen andre arter som er i nærheten av å kunne snakke med oss eller regne eller noe som vi kan?

Dette er pensum for 17-åringer. Jeg synes det er pinlig at du ikke har lært deg dette. Hva annet er det du ikke har lært på skolen?

Naturen henger så perfekt sammen at det å si at den er blitt utviklet er galskap å tro på.

Nei det er ikke galskap. Du kan lære mye om dette i detalj på de fleste norske høyskoler og universiteter. Jeg kan anbefale Universitetet for miljø- og biovitenskap i Ås. Jeg mistenker dog at du ikke har studiekompetanse, hvertfall utifra det du viser i her. Du viser total mangel på kunnskap som de fleste 17-åringer forventes å ha lært på skolen.

Endret 21. november 2011 av Griffar

[cuadro]

Neanderthalensis er noe helt udiskutabelt: http://www.pnas.org/content/96/13/7117.long

 

De har eksistert, uten tvil. Om du ikke vil kommentere på emner kun fordi du forventer at din ignoranse er nok til å fly over temaet på, så gjør det meg ingenting. Det er bedre om du forsvinner, enn forpester.

[IHS]

Det dere vil fram til er at vi for flere millioner år siden var aper?

At min tipptipptipptipptipptipptipptippoldefar

 

var en halveis ape?

Nei, det er feil. Ingen er HALVEIS noen ting. Nei, for flere millioner år siden var vi det som senere ble til aper...

Å skyve dette ukjente "noe" eller "det" flere og flere millioner år tilbake i tiden. Øker ikke akkurat troverdigheten til denne evolusjonseteorien, RWS

[Abigor]

Å skyve dette ukjente "noe" eller "det" flere og flere millioner år tilbake i tiden. Øker ikke akkurat troverdigheten til denne evolusjonseteorien, RWS

Hei, du klarer ikke å lure noen.