C#: [Løst]XNA Platformer Kit + min kode: kan det selges?

[MrLeftfield]

Heisann! Tenker på å lage et spill i XNA, og er forsåvidt greit i gang.

 

- Har pixel-pr-pixel kolisjon

- Kan bevege ting

- Har en selvlagd meny

 

Problemet jeg kom over nå, er å ikke lenger bevege ting ved å endre på X og Y Det jeg trenger er en slags "platformer", som Mario f.eks:

- Det å kunne løpe på bakken, så hoppe opp noen "platformer" og hoppe ned igjen.

 

Så fant jeg ut at det er en "Platformer starter kit" i 3.0 av XNA, som så ut som en Indiana Jones kopi. Den hadde alle funksjonene jeg trengte for bevegelse.

 

Det STORE spørsmålet her nå er:

 

- Kan jeg bruke den kit'en til å lage et spill, så selge det fritt på min nettside (f.eks) ? Eller er det under MPL (Microsoft Permissive Licence)?

 

Tanken er å gjenbruke den koden med "no strings attached".

 

Noen som vet noe om det?

 

edit: Endret emnet på forespørsel fra en mod.

Endret 1. februar 2009 av MrLeftfield

[HDSoftware]

Hvis det du bruker er en Microsoft dings så finnes det garantert en EULA (End User License Agreement) der også. Alt du i såfall trenger å vite burde stå der.

[MrLeftfield]

Hvis det du bruker er en Microsoft dings så finnes det garantert en EULA (End User License Agreement) der også. Alt du i såfall trenger å vite burde stå der.

 

edit: nvm, fant en EULA på disken faktisk

 

edit#2: Fikk svar fra creators XNA forum:

 

"We can't offer legal advice on the forums, its against the rules. Your best bet if you cant understand the EULA yourself would be to sit down with a lawyer."

 

Vel...okai...Så basically, om jeg ikke kan forstå en EULA som er skrevet av advokater FOR advokater, så er jeg kjørt? Alt jeg vil egentlig vite er om jeg kan selge ett spill som er bygget på "Platformer Starter Kit" som følger med XNA 3.0 framework :/

 

Kan sikkert legge EULAn ut (den er noelunde kort) her om folk vil, men jeg vet ikke om DET er lovlig engang ^^

Endret 2. februar 2009 av MrLeftfield

[Glenn F. Henriksen]

Legg ut EULAen du, er neppe noen som saksøker deg for det

[MrLeftfield]

Legg ut EULAen du, er neppe noen som saksøker deg for det

 

Her er EULA for XNA:

 

 

MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS

MICROSOFT XNA GAME STUDIO 3.0

These license terms are an agreement between Microsoft Corporation (or based on where you live, one of its affiliates) and you. Please read them. They apply to the software named above, which includes the media on which you received it, if any. The terms also apply to any Microsoft:

* updates,

* supplements,

* Internet-based services, and

* support services

for this software, unless other terms accompany those items. If so, those terms apply.

By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not accept them, do not use the software.

If you comply with these license terms, you have the rights below.

1. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. You may install and use one copy of the software on your device.

2. ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.

a. Programs developed for the Windows platform

i. Distributable Code. The software contains code that you are permitted to distribute in programs you develop for the Windows platform only, if you comply with the terms below.

A. Right to Use and Distribute. The code files listed below are “Distributable Code.”

* You may copy and distribute the files enumerated in the REDIST.TXT file installed with the product and permit distributors of your programs to copy and distribute the Distributable Code as part of those Windows platform programs.

B. Distribution Requirements. For any Distributable Code you distribute, you must:

* add significant primary functionality to it in your programs;

* require distributors and external end users to agree to terms that protect it at least as much as this agreement;

* display your valid copyright notice on your programs; and

* indemnify, defend, and hold harmless Microsoft from any claims, including attorneys’ fees, related to the distribution or use of your programs.

C. Distribution Restrictions. You may not:

* alter any copyright, trademark or patent notice in the Distributable Code;

* use Microsoft’s trademarks in your programs’ names or in a way that suggests your programs come from or are endorsed by Microsoft;

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ii. Commercial Programs using Games for Windows LIVE. You may not use the software to develop commercial programs that connect to Games for Windows LIVE.

iii. Additional Requirements. In order to use any programs developed for the Windows platform using Games for Windows LIVE, you must comply with the Xbox LIVE Code of Conduct and Terms of Use, which also apply to Games for Windows LIVE, currently located on the Xbox.com website.

b. Programs developed for the Xbox 360 Platform

i. Commercial Use. Use of any programs developed for the Xbox platform using the software is restricted to your personal, non-commercial use, with the exception of commercial distribution via Xbox LIVE Marketplace.

ii. Additional Requirements. In order to use any programs developed for the Xbox 360 platform on your Xbox 360, you will need to:

* Download Microsoft XNA Game Studio Connect from Xbox LIVE Marketplace;

* Obtain a Silver or Gold Xbox LIVE subscription;

* Have a current membership to the Microsoft XNA Creators Club, available from Xbox LIVE Marketplace; and

* Comply with the Microsoft XNA Creators Club offer terms, Xbox LIVE Code of Conduct and Terms of Use, currently located on the Xbox.com website.

c. Programs developed for the Zune Platform

i. Personal Use. Use of any programs developed for the Zune platform using the software is restricted to your personal, non-commercial use.

d. Use Specific to Windows, Zune and Xbox 360. You may not use the software to develop programs that run on any platform other than the Windows, Zune or Xbox 360 platforms.

e. Communication Features. Any voice-chat features implemented with the software that use LIVE networking must utilize the voice-chat channel provided in the software. Any text-chat features implemented with the software that use LIVE networking must utilize the SendDataOptions.Chat flag. The SendDataOptions.Chat flag must not be used for any purpose other than text-chat.

f. Creators Club and the Software. If your Xbox LIVE Account permits you to have associated accounts, no more than 4 associated accounts may use your Creators Club membership to run programs created with the software.

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You may not:

* disclose the results of any benchmark tests of the software to any third party without Microsoft’s prior written approval;

* work around any technical limitations in the software;

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* use more than five copies of the software with one Creators Club membership; or

* use the software for commercial software hosting services.

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[kaffenils]

For Xbox360 står dette skrevet:

Commercial Use. Use of any programs developed for the Xbox platform using the software is restricted to your personal, non-commercial use, with the exception of commercial distribution via Xbox LIVE Marketplace.

Det betyr at du ikke kan selge det.

 

Fow Windows er dette det eneste jeg fant som omhandler salg:

ii. Commercial Programs using Games for Windows LIVE. You may not use the software to develop commercial programs that connect to Games for Windows LIVE.

 

 

Hvorfor du synes EULAen er advokatspråk skjønner ikke jeg. Synes det meste var lett forståelig.

[Glenn F. Henriksen]

Du kan lage spill til Windows og selge de og du kan legge ved nødvendige filer som er definert i filen REDIST.TXT.

 

Du må ha en lisens som beskytter de filene minst like godt som denne lisensen.

 

Du kan ikke lage kommersielle spill for Windows Games for LIVE, XBOX360 eller Zune.

 

Hvis du blir med i XNA Creators Club ($99 / år) kan du legge ut spillet ditt for gjennomgang og hvis det blir godkjent kan du selge det til XBOX via LIVE marketplace og få prosenter av salget.

[MrLeftfield]

Du kan lage spill til Windows og selge de og du kan legge ved nødvendige filer som er definert i filen REDIST.TXT.

 

Du må ha en lisens som beskytter de filene minst like godt som denne lisensen.

 

Du kan ikke lage kommersielle spill for Windows Games for LIVE, XBOX360 eller Zune.

 

Hvis du blir med i XNA Creators Club ($99 / år) kan du legge ut spillet ditt for gjennomgang og hvis det blir godkjent kan du selge det til XBOX via LIVE marketplace og få prosenter av salget.

 

Tusen takk for den Da vet jeg at jeg kan bruke platformer kit, utvide den med min kode, og prøve å selge produktet

 

Jeg var bare redd for at jeg gjør det, så får jeg en Microsoft mail i boksen om at jeg har brydd copyright og nå vil de ha erstatning fordi jeg brukte "platformer kit" i spillet mitt